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Does A:C retcon AVP, AVP:R, Predator 2?

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Mud In Your Eye, Pal

Aug-25-2017 11:02 PM

After my first viewing of Alien: Covenant I had one thought: Beautiful. Shortly after that thought I had a second: If David creates the first xenomorph (and indirectly neomorphs by crashing the ship in the stream allowing the spores to populate) and his demise in the coming Prometheus sequels leads to the biomechanical upgrades to the species does that mean AVP, AVP2, and Predator 2 technically never happened? Officially? If he ends up being the reason the biomechanical trait having species existed then it could not be possible prior. 

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Im Durp

Aug-25-2017 11:18 PM

Pretty sure at this point you kind of have to view the alien, predator, and avp movies in separate continuities 


Aug-25-2017 11:26 PM

I'd perhaps get out of this one by citing 'convergent evolution'. For example, you can bet your bottom dollar that if life exists on multiple planets throughout the universe you will definitely find sharks time and again. If the black goo has been around for an eternity, perhaps even before the Engineers, it may be just itching to fulfil its ultimate destiny, so to speak, wherever you find it. That opportunity could have presented itself many times in the past.

Mud In Your Eye, Pal

Aug-25-2017 11:42 PM

I don't know how to reply directly yet so... Top guy, I always have viewed them as separate but hypothetically they could have been in the same timeline up till A:C. Now they just can't work. I enjoy them all for what they are though. Second guy, if they exisited before the events of A:C I don't think we would have had the xenoctopus mural in Prometheus. I do however see your point.


Aug-26-2017 2:40 AM

I say yes AVP is retconned out. Besides the AVP movies didn't make a lot of sense anyway, I'm mean Resurrection Xenos before Resurrection Xenos existed. Sure one could say Convergent Evolution but the Xenos depicted in AVP were too similar to the Alien Resurrection Xenos to be labeled as Convergent evolution. The Black Goo I believe is an Engineer creation unless stated otherwise. 

Also, I think any Xenos directly derived from the black goo would look more like a Deacon more than a Classical, Warrior, Runner, Resurrection Xenomorph.

Timmy the ultramorph

Aug-26-2017 10:24 AM

avp is in no way part of alien cannon but it is cannon with the predator universe. the predator universe has xenomorphs with a completlely different origin, but the alien universe has no predators of any kind.

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