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AC: Inital Thoughts (no spoilers)

HappyXeno

May-18-2017 7:42 PM

A damn wild ride of a film. I really enjoyed it and I can't say I was too disappointed with any aspects of it. Worthy addition to the franchise!

I'll be posting my full spoiler review tomorrow (?) I may need excess time to process everything. 

(The creatures looked phenomenal. I may or may not have teared up.)

What's the story, MUTHUR?

22 Responses to AC: Inital Thoughts (no spoilers)

Jem587

May-18-2017 7:43 PM

Same loved every minute of it..

oceantracks

May-18-2017 7:46 PM

Creatures looked good, but were a bit cute at times, very Jurrasic Park. Hopefully Scott can actually find a writer that makes you care about the crew, like he did in ALIEN and like Cameron wrote in ALIENS. Did anyone actually care when someone got killed in this film?? 

HappyXeno

May-18-2017 7:53 PM

@oceantracks guy sitting next to me in the theater chuckled every time someone bit the dust; it seems finding writers who can make the audience care about the crew is a difficult task nowadays.

What's the story, MUTHUR?

colonialsoldier

May-18-2017 8:01 PM

 I got mad when Parker got killed.  Sad when Hudson went out in a blaze of glory.  Happy that Burke got wasted.  Was worried about Newt and was shocked when Bishop got torn in half.  Seeing a head float in water had no effect on me lol.

splatterpunk

May-18-2017 8:02 PM

No one cares about characters in horror movies at least I don't. When I go to a horror movie I want carnage. That's the fun part. Another reason why I liked the ending. Why I particularly loved covenant was the carnage and the way Scott mixed in some Prometheus ideas. He just loves to make movies with those evil androids. I do have a few small gripes but I'm content and definitely buying the blue ray hopefully a directors cut with deleted scenes:)

Davefried81

May-18-2017 8:13 PM

Just got home from watching it.  Let's just say it was a total distant film from Prometheus and what I we expected. Loved it every minute but good grief. They edited the crap out of the movie. It was cut so strange that I now have to see an uncut version. 

colonialsoldier

May-18-2017 8:16 PM

They should of edited the first five minutes and the middle big time lol.

Ash81

May-18-2017 8:24 PM

Terrible.  Not scary.  Predictable in every way except for two or three great moments.  Bad CGI alien.  A pastiche of all the markers that make an "Alien" movie, which basically makes this one watered down, dull; a simulation of an Alien movie.

Fassbender was great.  Daniels has potential to be interesting...in the next movie.  But then again so did Shaw.  And look what they did.

Scott's work hasn't been cutting edge since Blade Runner.  All that philosophizing and grandstanding comes off ham-handed.  Show don't tell.  Let the character's actions & dramatic situations breathe.  Sometimes it seems he has the storyboard image of what he wants in mind but doesn't consider the human logic.  

Alien worked because of dramatic conflict, realistic character conflict.  This installment is like Resurrection part 2 - all cliches & mostly cardboard characters.  As a director with such a no BS - "I don't fucking believe it" attitude & approach, I don't know how he could include that ridiculous Oram scene.

Wanna save the series?  Make an Alien film for 10 million & write a script with real people in it and  an Alien that we only see for a few minute of screen time.  

Scorcese is right - cinema is gone. Alien was cinema.  Covenant is videogame & merchandise filmmaking. This mess is symptomatic of where movies are nowadays.  All shine & polish & a simulation of drama; synthetic.

oceantracks

May-18-2017 8:35 PM

"No one cares about characters in horror movies at least I don't."

You are a unique filmgoer indeed....people indeed care or the screenwriter isn't doing his job. Nobody wanted to see Paxton get killed in ALIENS but EVERYONE wanted to see Paul Riser get it...that's the screenwriter's job.

Davefried81

May-18-2017 8:35 PM

I'll admit it was a screen friendly film to reboot a franchise with Fox. None other than Ridnely Scott to direct. I thoroughly liked Covenant. If you are a film nerd like me, editing was a bit rough.  We all agreed Prometheus also had the same film editing issues. But holy poopy I'm excited to see what's next. 

 

splatterpunk

May-18-2017 8:40 PM

@ocean most hard core horror fans or gore hounds don't honestly. The characters are glorious meat bags. I watch a ton of horror movies even the b ones. Check that they have to be R. Honestly I will say characters are there to die. They have to be good characters which I thought they were. I especially enjoyed one particular death. Since this post isn't spoilers I won't mention it but honestly when I go to a 'horror' film I don't care.

 

Now when I go to a non horror film I do care about the characters but those are different types of movies. From a horror fan standpoint covenant is cool at least to this horror fan.

 

Also I enjoyed the ending because I have a thing about happy endings. They make me want to vomit:)

dk

May-18-2017 8:41 PM

I like what I am hearing so far....mostly.

oceantracks

May-18-2017 8:47 PM

These films aren't made for "hard core gore hounds" which sounds pretty high school to me frankly, sorry. These are serious films and yes most people hate when evil wins out, that's a pretty natural reaction to all literature, written or in film. When it's a true classic tragedy, as in the end of "Chinatown" (before your time  I'm sure) ....that's different. In an action film, less so.

I wouldn't call ALIENS or ALIEN "happy endings" I mean...nearly everyone got killed, but the key is ....NOT EVERYONE got killed. That's the diff.

oceantracks

May-18-2017 8:49 PM

"They should of edited the first five minutes and the middle big time lol."

@colonialsoldier....

Yeah that first opening sequence I could have lived without...like forever lol

 

oceantracks

May-18-2017 8:50 PM

"I got mad when Parker got killed.  Sad when Hudson went out in a blaze of glory.  Happy that Burke got wasted.  Was worried about Newt and was shocked when Bishop got torn in half.  Seeing a head float in water had no effect on me lol."

 

Exactly!!

splatterpunk

May-18-2017 8:58 PM

@oceans gore hound films have a large audience. If you want to feel that way fine. Alien and aliens were happy endings to be honest. The star lived the bad guys were beaten. I write horror. I'm a horror author. So telling me what sounds high schoolish or saying this and that about horror is not an argument you want to get into.

One thing you have to remember about horror is people are jaded now because of all the different genres and explicit deaths over the years. Torture porn, movies like saw, really helped desensitize people from what was twenty years ago. Scott and his crew made it quite clear Covenant was the bloodiest alien in the franchise. It was returning to its horror roots. It lived up to that. Horror has changed a lot over the years. 

 

I can go on and on about horror and the kind of audiences that watch different kinds. Gore is also a means of expression. 

 

The person i went to see the movie with was pretty grossed out by it. I read a lot about covenant before going to see it and it stayed faithful to what was written about it. So I left satisfied.

Dr. Curt Connors

May-18-2017 8:59 PM

Just saw it tonight. Extremely disappointed, trying to remember what the last movie I saw was that I was this disappointed in? Oh yeah Poopmetheus, I mean Prometheus. There were a few cool things in the movie but overall it's just disappointing. Seems like some scenes were setup before they even had a script like this would be cool and so would this, let's write a story around these scenes. I just don't get it, never put your trust in Ridley Scott, I don't know I guess he's just kinda lost it. In my opinion this isn't much of a step in the right direction from it's predecessor which I will not name again in this thread. Nothing scary like @Ash81 said, same old same old horror movie thrills. Had so much potential and I was so excited to see it, he's ruining the lore of his first film, the epic Alien. Ridley please don't make another one cause then I will have to go see it because I'll believe again that you can make up for this one just like Poopmetheus, damn I named it again, please don't put me through this again.

Dr. Curt Connors

May-18-2017 11:48 PM

Wishing more and more Blomkamp's Alien 5 would have came out instead of this.

Indefinent

May-19-2017 3:15 AM

Saw it last night... Packed theater.

 

Overall i very much enjoyed the film it brought me back to what made me fall in love with this franchise decades ago, Kudos Scott.

It could have been longer, but i'm perfectly content with what we got, and if i can speak for the crowd who applauded when the credits went up.

"Keep it comin Scott... Don't ever stop!"

 

 

colonialsoldier

May-19-2017 3:55 AM

@Ash81 & Dr. Conners.  You guys posted my exact sentiments on this movie.  Lol @ Poopmetheus.  Last night before I konked out, I thought about how Covenant should have played out.  I am going to create a new thread with my ideas.  Indulge me on what you think.  Obviously, I am not an auteur like Ridley but perhaps, some brainstorming should have happened during pre-production.

Besides Alien and Blade Runner; Black Hawk Down and Matchstick Men are excellent films as well.

BTW, this review hit it on the nail for me.

http://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2017/05/29/alien-covenant-and-the-too-many-monsters-problem

Dr. Curt Connors

May-19-2017 7:02 AM

@colonialsoldier   Awesome man, can't wait for that thread

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