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MemberFacehuggerMar-14-2017 2:14 PMIf I understand correctly, Ridley said that they are using practical suits with CGI touch ups (to make them thinner; more Alien, etc.). However, in the trailer I'm pretty sure I saw nothing but CGI monsters, so what gives? Also, which Alien type are you guys most pumped about? Are you hoping for a full on Xeno? Are you most excited for the Organic Protomorph? The Neos? Are you hoping for a Deacon??? Let me know!
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MemberXenomorphMar-15-2017 8:58 PMSome people have had issues with that shot. I tried to find fault with it and couldn't.
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AdminEngineerMar-15-2017 9:02 PMPractical effects over CGI for close-ups but for more aereal shots, CG and for any enhancements such as movements which might be stiff with puppets. But blood effects and any time the Alien is on screen with actors, I would prefer a physical rig to CG.
Side note: Cut the senseless arguing folks. I've noticed this crop up in a few topics now. I understand when two people have strong opinions it can get heated when challenging the other's points, but please stop taking responses so personally. This is an Alien forum, not a Facebook comment section. We're all here to geek out about the same stuff so enjoy the experience and appreciate differing opinions. Discuss, don't argue.
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MemberXenomorphMar-15-2017 9:07 PMI can't recall good CG blood effects. Which would mean there's probably some out there and it's been convincing enough not to notice. Shaun of the Dead had some from memory that fooled me. But then you look at something like Expendables or the unrated version of AvP and they're laughably bad.
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AdminEngineerMar-15-2017 9:18 PMUsually the overuse of gore always results in an unrealistic effect of blood. I would say more often than not however practical blood effects and old school injury effects seem far more realistic than the CGI alternatives, on average.
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MemberXenomorphMar-15-2017 9:24 PMThe case for using digital blood makes sense. Squibs are time-consuming to rig up, then might not fire properly and you need multiple costumes/ suits for multiple takes.
However I think there's a random element to squibs that's hard to replicate digitally.
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MemberTrilobiteMar-15-2017 9:34 PMI work in a field of seeing and dealing with injuries and blood. Movies usually over do it especially when the casualty is trying to be heroic and speaks coherently (blood loss on the ground is not in the brain thus a cascade of events incompatible with talking or shooting accurately). I couldn't give two craps about how much fake blood a movie claims to use.
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MemberXenomorphMar-15-2017 9:37 PMYeah, but Braindead was ace.
I was watching the TV series The Fall not long ago and a cop in that got shot in the arm, and rather than carrying on as if nothing happened, his arm was in a sling for a long time after and they were talking about he might not regain full use of it. Seemed to be one of the more realistic portrayals.
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MemberTrilobiteMar-15-2017 9:51 PMSM- exactly. I never saw that show but it is nice to know some pay attention to details like that.
We have about 6 liters of blood. It is comical to see a victim crawling in a pool of his own blood that easily looks like a gallon with good thinking skills, good fine motor dexterity etc. Medical types can really poop a party!
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MemberFacehuggerMar-16-2017 8:38 PMAwesome responses everyone! I agree with Chris. Debating is fine (dare I say encouraged) but the second it turns personal, you guys should take it to the DMs or shut it down. Neomorph and SM, your guy's opinions are some of the ones on here that I respect the most.
But anyway, many of you haven't answered the second part of my question. What monsters are you hoping to see??
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MemberTrilobiteMar-16-2017 9:07 PMOP- I want to see mutations leading up to the Xeno more than the Xeno for this film.
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MemberFacehuggerMar-16-2017 9:17 PMAll of the monsters would be good to see ALIEN426, probably won't see em, but it would be a hoot.
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MemberFacehuggerMar-16-2017 9:26 PM@Chris the the blood and gore effects on Wolf Creek2 were realist looking especially the first ten minutes of the movie, its definetly a movie you watch when your kids are tucked away in bed sound asleep.
LVBank
MemberOvomorphMar-16-2017 10:22 PMAlien426 thanks for getting us back on track to what really matters! as far as aliens- I would really like to see something new that worked - looks scary but cool like the xenomorph but different. That pale looking head / art with no eyes and that horn- if it was big like the engineers could be pretty scary- formidable. Like something that could pulverize you like the engineer did in prometheus. But most of the fear with alien to me is its mystery and stealth. You don't know where it's gonna pop up! Like in the bugstomper cockpit-wow
and Please with a capital P nothing like the chubby baby huey alien with a Hershey kiss on its nose that moves- like in the end of Alien Resurrection. I feel embarrassed Sigourney ever had to act with that stupid thing Wtf!
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MemberFacehuggerMar-17-2017 8:12 AMI agree LVBank, I'm really looking forward to the Neomorphs in action (the white, Beluga Xenomorphs). So far, it seems we've only seen them in infancy and early adolescence. It'll be terrifying to see them fully grown and nasty