smallfishOvomorphMember23 XPJan-12-2017 9:36 AM
She is just sooooooo, pretty.
Neomorph ChestbursterMember739 XPJan-12-2017 9:41 AM
That picture just screams Alien, the older tech, helmet thingy, darker setting and concerned look on their faces. Love it!!!
ctombOvomorphMember13 XPJan-12-2017 9:44 AM
The image on the hologram screen looks like the first David. Possibly a video of David or a live feed.
NonsenseBodyOvomorphMember45 XPJan-12-2017 9:48 AM
I agree with Ctomb.
A L I E N 4 2 6 FacehuggerMember444 XPJan-12-2017 9:51 AM
Cool still! Reaffirms that the Engineers WILL play a roll in this film.
On in a completely unrelated note, I love your new profile pic, Neomorph
Dark NebulaXenomorphStaff1187 XPJan-12-2017 9:59 AM
Just what I was expecting to see in AC.Looks like the crew of the USCSS Covenant somehow activated it.
I wonder is that a recording of the engineer from 2000 years ago,way before David and Shaw left LV-223 in it.Idk
AtiPraetorianMember3378 XPJan-12-2017 10:00 AM
MuzzleNZFacehuggerMember163 XPJan-12-2017 10:31 AM
I suggest that is actually Weyland - they are viewing a recording of the confrontation with the Engineer on the Juggernaut. This was recorded on David's suit camera, and the angle fits (the image above shows Weyland's head as seen from where David was standing).
This could be part a distress message; it could be part of the transmission Shaw set up (assume that is from the life boat) before they left LV-223; or to could have be through some other mechanism.
Either way, I think the image looks more like old Weyland in his EVA suit than it does an Engineer.
David 7FacehuggerMember488 XPJan-12-2017 11:08 AM
What if the distress signal is not from David or Shaw but from the Engineers? When David causes the chaos to the Engineers, they send out a message for help and the Covenant crew comes upon it.
MuzzleNZFacehuggerMember163 XPJan-12-2017 11:26 AM
@David007 - yep, that's possible too, although indications so far are that whomever is on 'Paradise' when David arrives appear to have renounced technology to a degree (but, I appreciate, that is also speculation).
I guess I'm suggesting the image, to me, appears to show Weyland - gaunt, wee tuft of hair on the forehead, neck area of EVA suit, right angle to be filmed by David, right lighting to be 'blown out' in the blueish hue (particularly if the transmission/recording is weak or damaged).
This also supports the David/Walter/Weyland connection. Walter will know Weyland went missing (no one else on the Covenant may know that, as the Company is unlikely to have divulged that widely). I think the 'signal' that Covenant come across will be less a distress signal, and more a message indicating the fate of the Prometheus/Weyland, and David's 'survival'.
Goddamn Tropics in hereFacehuggerMember288 XPJan-12-2017 11:26 AM
We need Deckard's Photo Anylisis machine from Blade Runner, looks like David to me?
SlavushaOvomorphMember16 XPJan-12-2017 11:37 AM
He is just sooooooo, pretty!
Neomorph ChestbursterMember739 XPJan-12-2017 11:39 AM
@A L I E N 4 2 6
Pretty cool huh :D a reminder of what horror awaits when AC is released...
Michelle JohnstonChestbursterMember763 XPJan-12-2017 12:07 PM
Thanks Chris we have had this picture for a while and yet it yields more on closer inspection.
My view both instinct and studying it is we are looking at David 8 with his TE Lawrence look. We see the lustrousness of the hair its definitely his side profile and the affected peak of the hair flicked to the side. You can also see the band/collar of the space suit he was wearing where he attach's the visor.
I believe we, for fun now, and the film audience for serious for the movie are being shown both of Michaels charcaters in the same shot so this will smooth and blend the existing narrative thread from Prometheus (the straight line) into the Covenant coming into the story. It will also be a "distinction set up" for the two characters for the casual audience, thats David from P and this is Walter from A. C. Very clever and imaginative way to organise and shape their coming relationship.
ChrisEngineerAdmin21941 XPJan-12-2017 1:38 PM
With the circles swirling past his head? That screams Engineer hologram to me. If it were a recording of David, surely it would be in our own technology? Unless he also figured out how to use the Engineer recording tech to record himself... until we get more info I'm still betting it's anot Engineer hologram also nod not David.
Dark NebulaXenomorphStaff1187 XPJan-12-2017 1:44 PM
Look like the engineer hologram.Except that it looks more bluer and brighter (like the one from the prometheus blu-ray cover artwork).
Goddamn Tropics in hereFacehuggerMember288 XPJan-12-2017 2:00 PM
Sorry guys, I'm seeing David's Jaw and hair, only Deckard's 'enhance' machine would give us a clear result.
MuzzleNZFacehuggerMember163 XPJan-12-2017 2:08 PM
I think @Goddamn Tropics in Here is right. It looks more like David close up, but to me, could still be Weyland. The head shape is not right to be an Engineer (at least, not the ones we have seen so far), who have a fuller, rounded, bald head. This head has hair, so it's unlikely to be an Engineer.
It does resemble the hologram (more so than the cover), but so would any humanoid head in that lighting/resolution.
I'm just guessing like the rest of you guys, but I feel like the Engineer confrontation, as viewed from David's suit camera, seems plausible (this was broadcast to the Prometheus, as Janek et al were watching, so we know it was captured).
Dark NebulaXenomorphStaff1187 XPJan-12-2017 2:20 PM
Weyland died at the end of prometheus inside the juggernaut that collided with USCSS Prometheus and crashed on LV-223,the one from AC is the other juggernaut that Shaw and David hijacked and left LV-223 so it doesnt make sense for it to be Weyland.
Its either Engineer or David,who knows.
Michelle JohnstonChestbursterMember763 XPJan-12-2017 2:20 PM
Check out the colour tinting in the top right behind Walter of the bank of equipment its exactly the same as the monitor and that obviously isn't Engineer technology.
Chris mentions swirls of holographic fuzz surrounding his head I see two distinct pale lines moving horizontally across the screen from the chin and forehead which seem like wavelines and extend to the far right of the monitor not the all encompassing swirls of the hologram scenes.
MuzzleNZFacehuggerMember163 XPJan-12-2017 2:48 PM
@Dark Nebula - you didn't read what I wrote. I suggested it's a recording of Weyland from the confrontation with the Engineer in Prometheus. Not suggesting Weyland's still alive - though, who would know - stranger things have happened!
I think it's likely to be David. It's almost certainly not an Engineer, but it may well be an Engineer-type holographic transmission of David.
BigDaveDeaconMember10361 XPJan-12-2017 2:52 PM
I am at a computer and so now can have a better look at this image.
Raise some good points as far as distortion like the Engineer Hologram you released. Potentially it could be a Engineer but the resolution is not high... on my phone earlier it could make out a similar shape to Goran D. Kleut
But now i can inspect it more i can see the case of it being either him as a Engineer (as what else could he be cast as, Monster in a Suit maybe). But also that it is David.
Its hard to tell due to the image so i will do some comparison work soon.
It would not make sense to be Weyland, because this would mean its a recording from the LV-223 Juggernaught and if they detect this then surely what else would they have seen and surely they would have Shaws SOS and basically unless they are more stupid than Milburn they would stay away.
Unless David uploads to them a small video.. but again i dont think having it as Weyland makes any sense.
It makes more sense that its David and a Transmission he has sent that has bated the Covenant to come to them. I buy that it is a Sent Transmission... rather than something the Covenant could pick up being transmitted randomly from the Juggernaught David and Shaw are on.
I think we looking at now 65% David 8 35% Engineer.
MuzzleNZFacehuggerMember163 XPJan-12-2017 2:57 PM
@GD-T-I-H - you got it! OMG, Lindelof must be involved, as Jonesy the Cat has travelled back in time (possibly stowed away on the Prometheus, and subsequently the 2nd Juggernaut), and assisted David in executing Shaw and the Paradise based 'Greenpeace Engineer faction' (as another poster in a different thread call them)!
Dave Bowman will have a brief cameo in the 3rd act, which probably ties up the 'baby-morph' scenario nicely.
This is going to be one hell of a ride!
AtiPraetorianMember3378 XPJan-12-2017 3:06 PM
MuzzleNZFacehuggerMember163 XPJan-12-2017 3:09 PM
@BigDave - my original thoughts around it being Weyland:
David's EVA suit (with his body inside!), and therefore the camera was on the 2nd Juggernaut; This contained a recording of the confrontation at the end of Prometheus; David uses this video to transmit a message for, as you say, baiting purposes.
Anyway, happy to scrap that idea. While I think a recording of Weyland being killed by an Engineer would be, not only plausible in terms of it being available (recorded on David's suit camera, which he has with him on Paradise), but also of significant interest to a subsequent Weyland (Yutani) expedition.....so would any message I'm guessing.
So, agree the likely scenario is a transmission from David outlining the events that led up to his current location/predicament. The image looks to be him, but could also be an Engineer of a type/variation we haven't seen yet (Goran's head shape looks similar). Doesn't, to me, look like any of the Engineers we've seen so far (hair!).
I'm thinking also, given the ONLY communication with Engineers we are aware of, outside of the direct contact in Prometheus, are the cave paintings. I think it's unlikely (but possible none-the-less) the Engineers would broadcast a video/hologram message alerting anyone to their whereabouts, regardless of their distress. I think, as has been said, the transmission is bait.
I think another reason why it is unlikely to be an Engineer - the landing party, to me, looks to be a rescue mission. If this was the first transmission of an intelligent species (as it would be at this point as far as they are aware), it would seem odd to send a small group from a colonising mission to go say hi, would it not? Particularly given 10 people going down to an alien planet off the back of a transmission showing a giant, muscular alien (Engineer), which they probably can't understand seems like B-grade horror movie set up 101.
I think David is the primary focus of the transmission, and they are going to 'rescue' him.
BigDaveDeaconMember10361 XPJan-12-2017 3:17 PM
I know its not to good a job lol
This montage shows Fassbender and Goran D. Kleut
If i look at it being distorted like the Engineer Holograms i think the Face fits Goran D. Kleut more my self.
Feel free to have a look and discus.
BigDaveDeaconMember10361 XPJan-12-2017 3:26 PM
@Ati indeed maybe the simple choice works and it could be a feed from the Drop Ship.
Those who are looking at it sure seem really curious and i doubt Fox would release a image of them looking at the crew of the Drop Ship however...
It would also seem odd that the Colonists are arriving to expect anything but a un-inhabited world.
So as far as Story Telling goes.. i think it has to be David... but its a bit odd as the image has a long gaunt face...
MuzzleNZFacehuggerMember163 XPJan-12-2017 3:43 PM
Took your image BigDave and did some bad Photoshopping!
Dark NebulaXenomorphStaff1187 XPJan-12-2017 3:46 PM
Heres my try
I suppose that Goran is either playing one of the adult neomorphs or the proto-morph.He looks skinny enough to me for the xenos.(I know he played one of the tall bald humanoids from star wars,he also played the stalker from founf footage film The tunnel)
Many months ago there was discussion about one promotional image that was posted on Ridley's birthday,about engineer being seen in the background.
AtiPraetorianMember3378 XPJan-12-2017 3:54 PM
MuzzleNZFacehuggerMember163 XPJan-12-2017 4:10 PM
Because of that bunch of random photos?
BigDaveDeaconMember10361 XPJan-12-2017 6:04 PM
I think the Ridley Scott Photo was from Prometheus as he was wearing the same clothing back then...
I think its still open for debate really...
I think it could be Fassbender... but the jaw line and chin look more like Goran and looking at the images MuzzleNZ had done then the Goran one with no Hair i think could fit.
But having the Crew which includes Ejogo who went down to the surface... i think seeing the Engineer would raise concerns for them..... But then i guess it gives Daniels a good reason to say to Crudrup "we dont know what the %^£$ is down there"
Goran is by no means a Big Ass Engineer...
But then maybe they are all not like that... maybe he is a Elder?
This Statue is not a Muscle Bound as the Sacrificial or Last Engineer. I think a Goran could pull this kind of figure off.
PS Statue is not from AC its Greek.
Tiago_miami_laFacehuggerMember236 XPJan-12-2017 7:03 PM
I dont know for sure...but engineer looks like it.
What i do know is that i see in the image 3 DEAD "PEOPLE"
Gee WFacehuggerMember141 XPJan-12-2017 11:55 PM
The chin line is too steeply angled to be Fassbender, I say it's an engineer. (partly because I'm really hoping the engineers appear again!)
ali81NeomorphMember1823 XPJan-13-2017 2:41 AM
my guess is its david. possibly due to walter being in the scene as this could be the first point of interest that walter has concerning david. I don't think it will be based on giving the viewer a distinct visual identification between david and walter as I would say davids hair dye has gone and he will have reverted back to his original colour which is dark like walters, possibly setting us up for the later 'is it walter or david?' twist though this twist could just be a teaser and doesn't happen at all
Dark NebulaXenomorphStaff1187 XPJan-13-2017 5:29 AM
Looks like the engineer to me,even if its David,still nevermind.Back in january 2016 I created this fanmade poster with hologram of David 8,way before anything was officially released.
(If that on the monitor is David)
MuzzleNZFacehuggerMember163 XPJan-13-2017 11:28 AM
Um, yep, coincidence for sure ;)
YC-865OvomorphMember13 XPJan-14-2017 6:57 AM
What if what they are looking at is video from a probe before they land or go out to explore?
BigDaveDeaconMember10361 XPJan-15-2017 6:05 PM
The Jawline looks more like Goran and we have no clues to what role he is playing at the moment.... we see Engineers in the Disaster Scene but they are Props... but i am sure i read somewhere that a Actor/Model had played a Live Engineer that they posted to their Social Media Page.. this Actor was not large built.... but then Daniel Twiss who played the Sacrificial Engineer was not as large as the Engineer he played..
So we still cant guess what role the Engineers play, and we cant assume the 4Chan leaks are correct as they have many flaws...
But i think we need to look at the Scene in context to the movie as far as Synopsis and how it would fit and when this Scene Happens.
And having them see a Engineer Recording would make them Question more about whats going on and be cautious... and suspicious?
So as far as Story telling goes... then having it being David 8 makes more sense.. and the image is so distorted as Engineer Hollogram Technology can be.. that the image may look a bit different to Fassbender... but its still essentially him.
Now if Carmen Ejogo was not in that shot, then we could ponder if being a Engineer.... but she is in the shot and she is part of the Landing Party and potentially seals her Fate in the Med Lab Bay.
BigDaveDeaconMember10361 XPJan-15-2017 6:23 PM
I think if we also take into account what Janty Yates Alien Covenant Costume Designer said and she said that the Movie is not a Space Suit movie.... which means Space Suits are not needed for the most part... which the Trailer Confirms.
She said there was TWO Space Suits designs... the Covenant Crew and the Prometheus design which only returning Fassbender would be wearing.
And so the Scene in the OT could look like the Prometheus Space Suit minus the Helmet.
I watched Prometheus again the other day, to try and work out what David would be wearing under his Space Suit and i can confirm its HIGHLY LIKELY David is wearing the grey T-Shirt and Trousers/Pants that he had on when he was attending to Peter Weylands Feet....
Its also very UNLIKELY the Dog Tag Daniels finds is Holloways or Shaws...
Little clues like this that add a New Dimension to how people view and interpret the events via Trailer that Potentially could mean we have not Seen David 8 in the trailer yet. And the Dog Tag belongs to a member of the Covenant crew.
I will make Topic up or carry it on in my Trailer Analysis thread so as to not Spoil the movie in anyway from real deep Analysis of the Trailers...
I will be adding to this the Covenant released stills that came with the Codes... that ended in a 2104... as if these are time-stamped as far as how they appear in the movie... it really shows us the Trailer is very different to the chronological events..
I guess this is not a massive Spoiler as its Speculation... if those images are as such.... the First one... could show a previous group could have set down first to Scout the Surface.... and the Dog Tag belongs to one of them....
But then this would lead to us wander would they not be more cautious in the second group.... but they could be.... then we have the Question about where is the other Drop Ship etc...
But as far as looking for a Plot Device to how they get off the surface, then finding the other Drop Ship latter would fit that... but then we would have to ask.. why not land the second drop ship down at the same location?
K. KingOvomorphMember12 XPJan-15-2017 8:01 PM
I believe the man in the foreground is handcuffed by the position of the elbows. And I believe that Walter is actually looking at the cuffed man and not the monitor.
K. KingOvomorphMember12 XPJan-15-2017 8:05 PM
I also believe that may be David in cuffs and the monitor is showing what David has visually recorded.
chliChestbursterMember935 XPJan-17-2017 2:37 PM
You seem to be discussing the 2-D image on the screen? What about the hologram on top of it? Doesn't it look like a woman with long hair?
Spacejockey85OvomorphMember15 XPFeb-27-2017 8:28 AM
at K.King David is handcuffed?By whom?Your logic is beyond stupid!