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A PARADISE LOST (what could have been)

A PARADISE LOST (what could have been)

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BigDave

TrilobiteMember9900 XPMay-28-2021 5:51 AM

With Alien Covenant now being 4 Years Old with the Script being worked on between the Summer 2015 and Autumn 2015, while AC may NOT have gone down too well it would be INTERESTING to see how much had Evolved. We had Ridley Scott announce the Sequel in August and said it was to be called ALIEN:PARADISE LOST.  With a Draft by John Logan made in August (previous Drafts by Dante Harper) Its seems some Changes had been made between then and Logans Drafts that became Alien Covenant.

We did have Ridley Scott mention in Early 2015 that the Next Movie would be Paradise Lost and would loosely Connect to John Milton's works.

The Purpose of this Topic is to look at Previous Concepts about WHAT could have been, before we got to Alien Covenant and to see IF there was anything Really that Different.

The Sequel had began work with Jack Paglen and then Micheal Green and a lot of their Work was in 2014, we then had Dante Harper work on some Drafts in 2015, before the Summer of 2015 we had John Logan take over and Finish his Drafts in November 2015 to what became our Prometheus Sequel

Not a LOT of Information is out there about those apart from some of Logans work, but we have seen some Concepts that seem to Indicate THREE different Takes on the Story.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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BigDave

TrilobiteMember9900 XPMay-28-2021 6:03 AM

I will Start with these from Khang Le in 2014

These seem to be OFFICIAL but i dont think anyone has had any Interview with Khang Le but he is a Professional Concept Artist and has worked on Various Movies.  If we assume these are INDEED works for a ALIEN MOVIE then with the Date of 2014 this would imply this is PRIOR to the Dante Harper Drafts.

What we see from these Concepts is that INDEED we see David has Unleashed Hell on the Engineers, and some of these Infected Engineers appear to Mutate into something a bit like the Neomorph.

We then see that some Human Explorers have arrived but they get USED by David to conduct Experiments to Genetically Grow like Egg Sacks that Contain Hybrid Parasites.  We then have Various Concepts of what are called Xenomorphs but they do-not look like our Xenomorph, but what these seem to be is Various Ideas/Concepts about WHAT KIND of MONSTER that David would go on to Create.

Not a LOT can be Gauged by these, we see that the Engineers World is more Futuristic and Bio-Mechanical and it does seem that David would Unleash the Pathogen on the Engineers that KILLS some but also MUTATES some into Horrors.

We then see that David has used some Incoming Humans to Conduct Experiments to CREATE his Very Own..... MONSTER.

http://www.khang-le.com/alien-convenant.html

Link to Khang Le works for a ALIEN Movie, check out some of their OTHER work too.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

MonsterZero

XenomorphMember1164 XPMay-28-2021 10:21 AM

Perhaps the original concepts were budget busters? Seems odd what they scrapped. 

Probably thought they were getting a little to far from the essential ideas..... mainly....Xenos and more Xenos!

BigDave

TrilobiteMember9900 XPMay-30-2021 4:38 AM

Its interesting that you BRING UP about the Xenomorph!

Going back to 2012/2013 we had Ridley Scott say the NEXT MOVIE would NOT connect to ALIEN but would STEER AWAY and so by that he likely meant that it would NOT give us Xenomorphs, or explain WHAT  happened no LV-426 and WHEN.  But RS had indicated that THEY (David and Dr Shaw) would be going to the Planet of the Engineers where they would meet some Beings who are NOT really Gods and are FAR from Benevolent but David would be BRINGING HELL with him and WHAT would Happen if the Pathogen infected a God or Machine.

so the indication was back then THAT we would see David no doubt at some point UNLEASH the Pathogen on the Inhabitants of the Engineers World and we would get to see some of the EFFECTS.

Feb 2015 i had a Source who indicated to me that the NEXT MOVIE would have TWO MONSTERS and that they was NOT the Xenomorph but we would see some Connection (especially ONE of them) and that ONE of these MONSTERS would be Created by David and Dr Shaw plays a BIG ROLE in its Creation.

So again its indicated that David would CREATE a NEW MONSTER but it would NOT be our Classic Xenomorph.

When we look at the Khang Le Concepts again we seem to see that David looks responsible for Unleashing the Pathogen even as FAR BACK as 2014 and we get ONE MONSTER as a Result, but then David would conduct Experiments to Create something ELSE....   These Concepts DO-NOT look like our Xenomorph.

But indeed it would seem indicated that the Pathogen has some Genetic Link to our Xenomorph.

It would seem that maybe when Dante Harper had came in, but CERTAINLY when John Logan had worked on his Drafts from the SUMMER of 2015 that THEY had then decided that the NEXT MOVIE would give us the XENOMORPH Origins to then SPOON FEED us to LV-426

And so YES "thought they were getting a little to far from the essential ideas" it seemed that instead of showing us something that has Traces of DNA, they Decided to give us the FULL XENO Origins and take us to Eventually the Space Jockey Event

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

TrilobiteMember9900 XPMay-30-2021 4:42 AM

"budget busters"

I think that YES to give us more Bio-Mechanical World would have COST a LOT, especially if Ridley Scott wanted to USE as many Actual Sets as he could (as opposed to Green Screen).  But it seemed that the HR Giger Estate was NOT that Pleased about using a HR Giger Aesthetic, and who knows if they Decided to CUT BACK as they could not come to a AGREEMENT or maybe it would COST them?

I think some Fans were Disappointed at this Less BIO-MECHANICAL Aesthetic that we ENDED UP with.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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