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Kamoebas V.6

MemberFacehuggerMar-16-2021 1:12 AM

I mean not the rogue Xenomorph,like a natural one that anyone here knows of. By the way i am new to Scified.

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Xenotaris

MemberPraetorianMar-16-2021 10:13 PM

I think the King was an unnatural creation in both instances in the comics, outside the comics there is the Kenner Toy and the Statuette (basically combining the Rogue with Giger aesthetics)

https://www.avpcentral.com/xenomorph-king#:~:text=The%20Xenomorph%20king%20is%20a,are%20more%20likely%20to%20fight.

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Kamoebas V.6

MemberFacehuggerMar-17-2021 12:54 AM

Oh ok,thanks for the help tho

Djdndnejwnwn

MemberPraetorianMar-17-2021 8:59 AM

I don’t go on this forum, but what I do know about Xenomorphs is that their hierarchy is based on Hymenoptera.

That order includes insects like Ants, Wasps and Bees. (Does not include termites, and Yellowjackets and Hornets are wasps!) These social insects only have queens, because in the nuptial flight the males die after mating, so even if there was a “king” then it wouldn’t live very long. A way there could be a king is if Xenos were based on Termite colonies.

I saw this and wanted to say something scientific.

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BigDave

MemberDeaconApr-22-2021 7:23 AM

I think it depends on what you consider as Canon, i think that with Comics, Novels and Games then a KING of Sorts could be Possible... as these Mediums have a Habit of Adjusting Lore to suit the Product.

We have to remember as far as Cinematically then the Xenomorph has gone through a Process of Change/Evolution to its Procreation and Origins.

ORIGINALLY we had O'Bannon come up with the STARBEAST from which the Xenomorph had started as. The Starbeast started as a Organism that required a 3rd Party to Procreate and act as HOSTS for their Face Hugger Stage.  This Original Idea seemed to imply there is some Sexual Procreation that would Create a Egg and then Organism (Face Hugger) within the Egg/Spore would require a HOST to Gestate in.

This meant that INDEED their could be MALES.

However by the Time this Idea had Evolved to ALIEN then what we had was a Organism that would PROCREATE via EGG/SPORE MORPH and so the Xenomorph does-not Procreate in anyway related to Life on Earth, it would require a Organism/Host that it would Infect with DNA/Mutagen that would Transform that Host into a Egg/Spore.  And so the Xenomorph was Asexual or simply has NO SEX.

But as the Egg Morph never made it into the Theatrical Release and then James Cameron came along and thought HOW can you get Eggs... where did they come FROM?

Then he came up with the QUEEN to lay the Eggs and essentially the Xenomorph became someone similar to how Hymenoptera Insects would Procreate.  And so in this Context then i guess YES there could be MALE Xenomorphs and the Drone could be one Example.

If the Xenomorph is similar to say Ants then YES there Species could develop Various way of Procreating, and we cant rule out a KING.

But the Xenomorph is a ALIEN species and i think it would be LAME to have to make it be more like Insects, and so having MALE Xenomorphs that Fertilize the Queens Eggs would be a BIT LAME...  I think having the Queen be able to Produce via  Parthenogenesis works well and that SHE may be able to Modify some Eggs before they are Laid to become Drones instead of Warriors or maybe there is some other Explanation.

That does-not mean we cant RULE-OUT a King or similar but i just dont think we should be getting into that the King goes around Hive to Hive to Mate with Queens to Produce Eggs....  i think we could COME UP with another Method of HOW a KING can Procreate... maybe they could go around and TURN a Host into a Egg (Egg Morph)

The PREQUELS do Change things a LITTLE... but by showing us the Xenomorph is maybe a Engineered Organism or a Evolution caused as a Affect of the Black Goo then this means that a KING of sorts could either Genetically Evolve from the Pathogen... or could be Engineered.

I dont see the NEED for a KING... but its Creation is something thats just their for the WOW and COOL Factor.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Xenotaris

MemberPraetorianApr-22-2021 8:10 AM

@BigDave

Agree, but a little side note. In the insect world, a DRONE's role is very similar to your hypothesized KING role. I feel that xenomorph drones should renamed to WORKERs.

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BigDave

MemberDeaconApr-23-2021 4:46 AM

Indeed the Drone in the Insect World is Male and so we can Speculate that the one in ALIEN was maybe Male?  I think it would make MORE SENSE if the Xenomorph Drone is something that has a Objective to LEAD to a Egg Laying Xenomorph.

It would have been COOL to see a Egg Morph event shown at some-point and then show the Egg Morph is what either Creates a Queen Embryo inside the Egg Morph or a Royal Face Hugger.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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