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BigDave

DeaconMember10181 XPSep-23-2019 4:17 PM

I thought i would make a Topic to discus ORIGAE-6

To discus what we Know, and what we Speculate this Place would be......

What we know about this Place is that it was the Destination of the USCSS Covenant prior to its Accident and then Detour to Planet 4.

It is implied that Origae-6 is a Earth like Planet, it seems it would be Habitable and have Liquid Water and Lakes, and it was a World that had been VETTED for Many Years and deemed a Suitable World to begin a New Colony on.

A New Eden, a Earth 2.0

What we also found out is that while this World is Habitable it is maybe NOT quite as Earth-like as Home (Earth) as the Crew discus how Planet 4 is more suitable than the Best Projections of Origae-6

We can only Speculate as to HOW FAR it is to Origae-6, the Covenant ship is 7 Years and 4 Months away as of the END of Alien Covenant.  What we do know is that there are 7 More Charge Cycles to Origae-6 and from the Origins Novel it would indicate the Covenant had suffered its Accident during its First of what would be 8 Re-charge Cycles until Origae-6 and so Oriage-6 is about 7X further away than Planet 4, and it appears that the Covenant would have taken about 10-11 Months before it had to make its First Re-Charge.

It is NOT so Important to work out HOW FAR AWAY it is to Origae-6 the Drafts to Alien Covenant indicate the Covenant was 239 Light Years from Earth at the Start of the Story, which would mean Origae-6 would be about 1900 Light Years away but thats using what the Drafts say.... they also only indicate 6 More Re-Charge Cycles left and so almost 1700 Light Years away.  Those Distances would take the Nostromo 35/40 Years to reach.  With Alien Covenant the Movie we get a indication that Planet 4 is near the Zeta 2 System and so maybe not 240 Light Years away.

REGARDLESS.... as i mentioned the Main Purpose would be to Speculate on WHAT would this World Look like, would it have LIFE and if so to what LEVEL?

Would the World have NO Intelligent Inhabitants? Would it be a World with Signs of Previous Civilization or a VIRGIN World?

So what do you Speculate the World to be like, and/or what would you like to See the World revealed as..

And also WHAT do you think would Happen, would the Covenant Arrive Safely what about the Colonist... what PLAN would David have?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

44 Responses to Origae-6

BigDave

DeaconMember10181 XPOct-07-2019 5:59 PM

@NTFS

Certainly would be Interesting if during the Landing they Detect a Ancient Ruined Building.

All we can do is SPECULATE about Origae-6 and the ONLY way we would ever get to see this Place is depending IF we get a Continuation and then its a case of WHY/WHEN would David go to Origae-6 and IF he does-not then WHEN/WHY would the Company go to Origae-6

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

NTFS

OvomorphMember92 XPOct-08-2019 3:58 AM

Example of an ancient ruined building which is barely recognizable.

* Silence Means Security *

hox

FacehuggerMember453 XPOct-08-2019 6:39 AM

This would be a bit of fun...

 

BigDave

DeaconMember10181 XPOct-10-2019 8:23 AM

Certainly some Remnants of a Long Lost Civilization with the remains of Hangers and other Landing Platforms/Run Ways would be Interesting.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

MonsterZero

XenomorphMember1295 XPOct-10-2019 4:46 PM

Love the ancient astronaut Nazca lines! That gets my vote.

 

I think it should be a lifeless world to save on budget.

 

I'm starting to think there would should be a security force among the Covenant colony? 

MonsterZero

XenomorphMember1295 XPOct-11-2019 5:45 AM

Wonder how they studied Origae 6? With a space telescope?

That means the image is 1700 years old.....much can change in that time..Earth went from living under the stars to traveling to them in span.

Asteroid collision could have wiped the surface...happens on Earth and maybe the Origae system doesn't have a Jupiter to gobble up stray killer asteroids.

BigDave

DeaconMember10181 XPOct-11-2019 7:16 AM

I get the Impression that Oriage-6 would have been a Primordial Virgin kind of World.  It seems it is suitable to be able to Inhabit but it would likely not have the Diversity of Flora and Fauna that Planet 4 or Earth has, but it would be a World where you could introduce Plants and Animals from Earth and they would Flourish.

How would such a World connect to the Engineers though? If we are going to make a Connection then in this case it would be a World that maybe is in its Final Stages of being Ready to begin a Engineers Seeding.

In which case if the Engineers discover that Humans are off to this Primordial Virgin Planet, they would want to STOP them so they dont TAINT this World.

We could also consider that it was a World that had some Ancient Civilization that was Hundreds of Thousands of Years OLD and had been Eradicated say 35'000, 70'000 or 150'000 Years ago....   And is in the Process of Recovering Ecologically for the Engineers to then ONE DAY go ahead and Re-seed.

But then we dont know what Origae-6 would be like so it could be a more Baron, Desert like place that is Habitable just as say the Middle East is and we could still have it that there are Remnants of a Ancient LONG GONE Civilization.

I think when looking at the PLOT we have to ask what would DAVID have to gain..... he surely would NOT want to have Daniels Alive..... 

So if he pretends to be Walter, and the Colonist help to Build this World they intended, and then discover that this WORLD had ONCE had a Civilization before, those Colonist would be Interested.

IF however he uses some Colonist to Build a Basic Colony, that is mainly out of Wood.... so more like a Ancient Medieval Settlement that would have some Stone Buildings but mainly would be Wooden...   then ONCE he has this.

He then KILLS the Colonist and then he Raises (maybe Engineers) those Human Embryo's then to them he could give them ANY kind of History and Origin to their kind, even proclaim himself as Creator.

For such a PLOT... those Creations Humanity MK2 of David's would surely have some Questions if they Uncover Ancient Ruins of a Long Lost Civilization, especially if David informed them that on this WORLD there was Nothing and that David Created them from Nothing.

So David in this case would NOT want them to go and make some Archeological Discoveries ;)

IF we assume such a Plot....  a mainly Wooden Village where Hundreds or Thousands of Human Children from those Embryo's are raised with NO KNOWLEDGE about the Covenant Ship and its Adult Colonist.

How would those New Colonist that are a bit different, feel when another Human Ship turns up, especially one with a WALTER Synthetic... can you imagine what those Raised Children would think?

They see Humans who look similar to them but a bit different, they see another being WHO looks Identical to their GOD/CREATOR..... what happens when those Raised Children would then Discover that David is NO God, and that their Origins are from Mankind, and that their Would be God is Actually a Creation of themselves, well their TRUE Ancestors.

This is HOW i Interpreted Ridley Scotts comments about Alien Awakening, and this is the Plot (in Part) that i had for my idea on a Alien Covenant 2 which would have been Alien Ascension.

I mentioned this many Months before the announcement of Raised by Wolves, which seems to have a similar Plot... so i wonder if Raised by Wolves is in Part what RS had planned for Awakening that he had decided to make into a TV Series as he felt his ideas would NEVER get to see the day of LIGHT as a Alien Covenant Sequel?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Kongzilla

ChestbursterMember666 XPOct-11-2019 9:43 AM

Or there is another option.

 

What if an incoming humans (from Earth) have a sinister agenda. They may even try to disable or destroy David. And, if David was kind to their children, then David's children can look at people from Earth as evil. Idk how... (plot hole) ...but they can get Juggernaut with alien eggs and try to come to Earth with righteous anger and destroy humanity. Like David with Engineers. But pilot was infected by facehugger and the ship crashed on LV-426.

 

Such a turn will give a) the dead Space Jockey a more sinister note. b) It will explain how the company became aware of Alien. c) And in the end, there will be no thought about how to turn David into a Space Jockey or infected him with Alien.

MonsterZero

XenomorphMember1295 XPOct-11-2019 3:55 PM

'he Raises (maybe Engineers) those Human Embryo's'

 

I can't believe David would want to raise humans...This sounds like something Walter would do... David has had enough of humanity. I do agree he'd probably engineer the embyros to his liking.

If they travel to Origae 6 ...I really not sure how they would tie the prequels to the original series? 

Maybe Dallas or any of the Nostromo crew have a son/daughter or relative on the Covenant? I don't know.

Maybe the Covenant colony is such a spectacular failure...W T have to start terraforming worlds near Earth....one of the explanations for terraforming a small rocky world like LV-426...they're really scraping the bottom of the barrel with that moon! Rocks, lava and small!   LV-223 should have been higher on the terraforming list(it was probably terraformed first?).

BigDave

DeaconMember10181 XPOct-12-2019 8:31 AM

Certainly Leto

We dont know how those Created/Raised Children of David would React to incoming Humans, they could be caught in a Conflict of Loyalty to David or feeling Betrayed for his Lies.

The Potential for one of his Creations becoming the Space Jockey is something that could have been a Option.

So David could Engineer those Human Embryo's to be Different, to be a Race that Relies more on Telepathic Communication, a Race that has a Faster Growth Rate from Infant to Adult.  A Race that has a degree of Regenerative Ability and so they would Reach Adulthood in say 5 Years and then Naturally have a Life Expectancy of say 300 Years.

This would Certainly be a Plot Convenience for when Humans Turn up to Discover Giants..

But these beings DONT have to be to TALL though, they could be 7ft but i think having them use some of the Unused Concepts as far as No Ear Lobes and Elongated Skulls would be ideal.

David had after all conducted similar Experiments on Engineer Infants.

So something a bit more HUMAN than this would NOT go out of Place.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPOct-12-2019 4:04 PM

Great Covenant and Lander graphics BigDave....thank you.

MonsterZero

XenomorphMember1295 XPOct-13-2019 6:36 AM

'David had after all conducted similar Experiments on Engineer Infants.'

Yeah..That's more like it. I could get behind a large colony of big mutant freaks. The Engineers or space marines have to come and clean up. Thousands of very large Newborn type creatures attacking anything that moves. David says they are just 'learning'.

Maybe a frozen world with ice caves?

Final scene: Space marines capture David..placing him in a holding cell as he watches them nuke his colony.

When attempting to disable David(remove his head) Monsters sprout from from Davids body and attack the marines and causing the ship to crash...killing all? Daniels is watching from a second marine drop ship...they circle around, following the path of the first drop ship(David on board)...they watch as the drop ship slams into a frozen lake..the ship slowly sinks to the bottom of the semi-frozen lake.....Daniels yells at the marines that they must make sure David is dead...they assure her he is and they leave Origae 6.

 Epilogue:

Some years later an unmarked drop ship returns to the accident scene, it lands on the frozen lake and out steps the human version of Bishop, dressed in a parka he directs the space marines where to start the search.

 

They could use the actor Lance Henriksen just as he is now. The original Bishop.

He'd play a 'monster' part in Alien:Covenant 3.

 

 

BigDave

DeaconMember10181 XPOct-14-2019 7:25 AM

I think the Potential for either David being shown to have Swallowed some say Xenomorph like Embryos that are brought on-board a Ship in his Disabled Body could be Interesting.

Also a Crashed Ship on a Frozen World..... that could be Interesting Especially if that Ship had some of the Pathogen, imagine if this stuff ENTERS the Water but is Frozen!   You would NOT want to Un-freeze that Stuff especially if the Ocean Area had some Already Frozen Basic Life Form.  Once those Temperatures get Higher and the Pathogen infects some Tiny Micro-Organism we can only IMAGINE what could become of them!

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

MonsterZero

XenomorphMember1295 XPOct-14-2019 10:53 AM

Really liking a frozen take on Alien..tough to film...but worth it.

 

Walter(David) reports a couple of colonists are missing …(it’s winter on the one habitable continent) Their signals originate in an iced over cave on the side of a mountain...Walter suggests a rescue party……...be careful of avalanches, he warns.

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