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Humamedia is the Blu-ray.com forum user who is the source of news reports from several online outlets claiming there are rumors of the Alien Covenant sequel being cancelled. According to his posts, he has been part of Alien Covenant's filming crew, and some of his log entries are very interesting. Judge for yourselves:

Forum: Blu-ray Movies - North America 09-26-2017, 07:32 AM
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The sequel to Covenant was originally due to...

09-26-2017, 07:32 AM #1568
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They would never say that. They always act like the next one could be right around the corner. Not saying there will be no third one, Scott has a lot of power, but her words there pretty much mean nothing one way or the other.

The sequel to Covenant was originally due to start preproduction this month in Sydney. After the box office results filming was cancelled, and a warehouse storage unit full of stuff was auctioned off a few months ago. So the original plan of pumping out another quickly has definitely changed with no immediate plans for anything.

Forum: Blu-ray Movies - North America 09-08-2017, 04:48 PM
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Don't know what precipitated dramatic trimming of...

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Was the Shaw stuff removed because of test screenings?

Don't know what precipitated dramatic trimming of the Shaw scenes but it was dropped in Dec 2016, just after the effects work was completed by Animal Logic.

BTW just about every scene was trimmed down considerably. There was even a big chunk of storyline where Tennessee has to convince Upworth to do a manual override of mother to descend from 80 to 40km. After much tension and dialog they go to the front of the ****pit on either side (so no one person can do it) and key in their command override codes into an incredible ATM like set piece with a kepyad I designed and mechanical levers. All jettisoned and it now just cuts to Tennessee descending in the Cargo Lifter.

BTW just about every scene was trimmed...

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I remember the shooting schedule being breakneck...

I remember the shooting schedule being breakneck up to that point with 5-6 scenes a day. We hit the shower scene and progress slowed to 3 days for that one scene. Lots of different alternative shots. I don't remember the creature breaking through glass practically, but there were many practical shots of a guy in a suit for that scene (and the entire movie), most of which used the guy in the suits as a lighting reference, and were replaced with CGI in post. From memory you do see one suit shot for that scene, but it might have been augmented with CGI as the final creature looked different to the classic xenomorph suits that were used on set. Some in camera stuff I saw through the video split looked incredible with the water spilling over the suit, but apart from the one shot mentioned above, none was used. A breaking glass shot may have been done but I don't remember it as the soundstage was filling up with water under the set, and I had other worries to distract me from watching the video split. As for the sfx shots out of Ricks mouth a few shots were done, Ridley often didn't take the more gruesome, over-the-top stuff.

Forum: Blu-ray Movies - North America 09-02-2017, 09:04 PM
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I was part of the crew, had the script for it and...

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Do you have a source for this?

I was part of the crew, had the script for it and was on set while they shot it.

Forum: Blu-ray Movies - North America 09-02-2017, 06:25 PM
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And the Crossing was actually even longer than...

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I loved the film but, I wish The Crossing and Last Supper prologues were in it.

And the Crossing was actually even longer than what is on the blu-ray and online. It started with Davids dismembered head spinning outside the ship. Shaw is angry with David and ignores him at first but slowly he sweet talks her and convinces her to bring his head in and reattach it. And yes it was all filmed.

Forum: Blu-ray Movies - North America 09-02-2017, 06:17 PM
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Also the original briefing by Oram after the crew...

Also the original briefing by Oram after the crew wakes and assembles on the Covenant bridge was originally scripted and filmed to be much longer and had close ups of each couple together through the briefing. It really set the relationships up including Lope and Hallet being a couple.

Agree that the 'last supper' should have been in the film as well. Before that was shot the cast interactions were a little stiff. During the Saturday it was shot by Ridleys son, McBride was joking continuously and it really broke the ice and brought the actors and characters together. Pity it wasn't shot first and included.

Old 08-17-2017, 05:58 AM #934
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It'll get made. Likely with Scott as a producer and not director and the film will lead directly into Alien. There will definitely be an Alien film in 2019 for the 40th Anniversary, that can be guaranteed.

On the negative opinion and poor box office the Covenant sequel that was due to start pre production this year has been cancelled, the studio booking dropped and all of the lighting, cabling green screens that were in storage were auctioned off a month ago.


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Not according to Boxoffice Mojo. Was a budget of $97 Mill.

Well according to Raymond the 1st Assistant Director of Covenant it was $130 million.

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I found it bizarre that they didn't test the air quality first--maybe we just weren't shown that and we were to assume it). I actually think that the characters, largely, made decisions that were pretty intelligent given what they were told (it was safe there) and what they knew.

Actually it was scripted and shot. Originally Walter uses his hand held device to check air quality, then that was shortened to a line of dialog saying the air quality was fine, and then that (along with many, many scene trims did not make the final cut. Walter only tested for chemical analysis, and when it checked out OK told the crew it was safe to come out.
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I suspect that Scott made a decision to not do the 3D and use his budget for the film rather than a post conversion or shooting in 3D. He was able to squeeze more out of the budget without the 3D portion. It was produced for $97 million as I recall.
Covenant budget was $130 million and there was probably another $5 million of extra time shooting. However the advertising sponsors offset that by a bit but no more than a few million.

By the time pre production started there were no plans to shoot in 3D but there was talk of 6K and 4K. It was finally shot in roughly 3K (2.8K from memory)
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I'm sitting this one out unless there's an extended cut that improves the film. I walked out of the theater even more disappointed than I was with Prometheus. I'm more inclined to cut Prometheus some slack these days but I don't believe that'll be the case with Covenant if it'll just be the theatrical cut.

There were many trims to almost all of the scenes, as well as some scenes jettisoned. Stuff like Walter analysing the atmosphere before the crew leave the Lander, and a big tension point with Tennessee needing a second person to override mother and descend to 40km, as well as some character building between Daniels and Jacob back on earth, and the bridging prologue which at least made it the Foxes YouTube channel, but even what made it was edited down and started with Davids head outside the ship.

What are the areas where you feel it needed more explanation/space?

I also would like an extended cut, but my gut feel is that theatrical will be final.

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joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPDec-28-2017 6:51 PM

Wow, now I understand why Avpgalaxy and after them other online news outlets, were tempted to create their own news report out of this user's log. In fact there are more than one "news" here. One being that the movie might have a much larger price tag than the official 97 million dollar one (which could explain why the studios are so hesitant to greenlight a sequel). Another being that the film was badly rushed (hence the lack of quality), that many practical effect sequences were replaced by cgi and other sequences explaining many "dumb decisions" from the spacecrew were left out. And by the way, I haven't ever read about the Tennessee/Upsworth scene described by Humanmedia before. To see that would have been really cool.

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPDec-28-2017 7:14 PM

Another take away from this seems to be the fact that Ridley Scott maybe does't like to play with blood? "Ridley often didn't take the more gruesome, over-the-top stuff". This guy seems to be the proverbial fly on the wall :-)

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ChestbursterMember896 XPDec-28-2017 7:45 PM

joylitt

I think you missinterpreted, Scott had a budget of over 130 mil (as much Prometheus was) but he made the movie with 97 mil, by not shooting in 3rd. Imagine if he would have used and the movie made the same amount. From 3 times the budget to 1.85 would have been a very big decline.

But if so much remained why not Pay the Giger estate and make the Planet 4 more like that a Giger nightmare?

And regarding blood, isn't Covenant the most gut filled movie with the Alien title? 

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPDec-28-2017 7:52 PM

red0guy Well I was just talking about what this guy says on his post. I agree with you about the importance of investing on Giger's works.

ignorantGuy

ChestbursterMember896 XPDec-28-2017 8:15 PM

joylitt

Which they did not...

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPDec-28-2017 8:22 PM

red0guy I mean for the future. Obviously there is not much Giger in David's lab. I thought all that medieval look was lame. And I am glad all that stuff have been auctioned. 

ignorantGuy

ChestbursterMember896 XPDec-28-2017 8:42 PM

Lame? He was using quills for writing wtf? Quills?

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPDec-28-2017 8:49 PM

red0guy Don't make me talk lol, you know there are other words that come to my mind, I just don't want to hurt other people's feelings :-) All I can say, paraphrasing Mark Hammill, is: "This is not my Alien".

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ChestbursterMember896 XPDec-28-2017 9:30 PM

joylitt

You know Rey is considered a Mary-Sue in the new Star Wars movies? Isn't David an evil Gary-Stu?

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPDec-28-2017 9:31 PM

red0guy haha maybe

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPDec-29-2017 12:45 AM

I have contacted this guy humanmedia on the blu-ray forum to see if he would be willing to shed some light upon the issue.

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