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Engineer Face on the Mountain
The remains of the Covenant crew who went to the surface of Paradise are leaving the planet in a shuttle flown by Tennessee. I'm sure most reading this noticed the Engineer face cut into the mountain at the end of the sequence in which Daniels fights the xenomorph (see below).
sherris asks a great question about the Engineer face in the mountain. In summary, her question: is the face on the mountain an elder or an Engineer who sacrificed themselves on that planet to begin it's evolution?
I hadn't thought of this or seen it discussed and it makes a great point in regards to only one Engineer face seen on the mountain.
Is this Engineer face cut into the mountain related to an Engineer who sacrificed himself on that planet who is now revered by his descendants who live there?
We don't know now but that could be the reason behind the carving.
Also, I wouldn't doubt it if the scene was cut for that very reason Ati. Great reference.
An attempt by Ridley Scott (explained in 2012) to not be on the "nose" as far as the Christian reference.
Scott says that was the direction they were taking with the story — at least at first. “We definitely did, and then we thought it was a little too on the nose.” he admits.
Thanks for the pic Ingeniero. Interesting aspect, I wonder why they put the lines, even in the side of the mountain.
You are most welcome drucea.
The "spokes" may just be dressing the mountain after cutting out a scoop of it to build the temple and courtyard complex. They could be avalanche control after harvesting so much rock from the bottom of the slope.
Well the Lines and Writing on some of the Head Statues have to have some importance.
We have to look at Earth Cultures for similar things, in which some tribes Marking (Scars) and Tattoos on the Face are used to mean a number of things, depending on the Culture/Tribe but they are all to Symbolism the Importance of Ritual, for some they are a sign of coming of Age, or a Right of Passage, some they are to Ward off Evil and Offer Protection but i am not sure this fits with what we see in Prometheus/Alien Covenant.
They could be to mark beings of higher Importance, looking at the whole purpose in Prometheus/Alien Covenant it appears to be a reminder to those who encounter these Statues about the Purpose of Origin, Sacrifice and so to show case the Bravery/Sacrifice and Role of these beings in the Creation/Evolution of their kind.
As far as the whole GOD/Jesus and Father/Son i think we need to not read too much into One Culture, but it is important to consider the relationship of the Sacrificial Scene.
From Alien Engineers, the idea was there was this Ancient Race who have Evolved and Engineered themselves past the need to Procreate, and are able to Live very Long Lives, they are not IMMORTAL but due to Genetic Engineering they indeed have Vastly Greater Life Expectancy and do not (i assume) suffer from many Diseases and Disorders that can have a Drastic Effect on the Life Expectancy of a Human.
Doing this came at a Cost, as it meant the Race had then lost the Ability to Procreate, as there was less need for it. Such is the Cruel Nature of Evolution, and Price.
So the Sacrificial Scene was a attempt for this Race to Rectify this, having lost the ability to Procreate they had to come up with more inventive ways to Seed/Create Life.
This changed a bit with Prometheus, and Ridley Scott said these beings could create life in other ways, and the Sacrificial Scene was just the way they chose to do it.
so its all pretty open to debate really, as far as the whole Purpose of Creation etc, as we can clearly see those beings on Planet 4 have Females.. but the Question is is this via the Sacrificial Scene, and so if we go back to the time of the Sacrificial Scene, was there any Females on Paradise?
Who knows.. my personal theory is they attempted to use the Sacrificial Scene to eventually allow for the creation of Females so they then can breed with these and so Break the Curse of not being able to Procreate.
So i think Child Birth and Females are very important to the Engineers, and this could explain why those beings on Paradise look a bit different, they are in effect Hybrids.
This also i think explains why the Engineers on LV-223 held the Life-Cycle of the Xenomorph Related Organisms in High Regard, as it was another way these beings could Carry and Give Birth to New Life.... a Perverted Pregnancy of sorts.
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Yes, 2 great points above BigDave.
"all to Symbolism the Importance of Ritual, for some they are a sign of coming of Age, or a Right of Passage, some they are to Ward off Evil and Offer Protection"
I thought the lines on the Engineer faces looked ceremonial as well.
"Doing this came at a Cost, as it meant the Race had then lost the Ability to Procreate, as there was less need for it. Such is the Cruel Nature of Evolution, and Price.
So the Sacrificial Scene was a attempt for this Race to Rectify this, having lost the ability to Procreate they had to come up with more inventive ways to Seed/Create Life."
That is great. The plot to wipe Earth clean revealed on LV-223 could just be because of jealousy.
The Engineers were realizing the cost of their choices over time and then became jealous of humanity because humans were able to reproduce without the involvement of a facehugger or the enjoyment of melting themselves with black goo.
This point also tends toward the story of the Watcher Angels who grew tired of their heavenly existence once they saw the human women on Earth and the angels left their first estate to rebel and chase said women.
All of this goes back to "who" attacked the Engineers on LV-223 and "why".