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What happended RIDLEY? Time for Hicks and Ripley

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JOHND

OvomorphMember20 XPMay-27-2017 3:49 PM

Im sorry but for those that say Covenant was good must of saw a different movie than me. There was terrible CGI (just cause you can use it doesn't mean you should), over use of the F word (was pointless and took away the power of it), poor character development (only like fassbender and mcbride), weak story (John Denver reference in 2104?, David created eggs?, no worries of uncharted planet animals/organisms), no tension build up, cartoon behavior (the little alien standing with arms open) and many missed opportunities. I love the franchise and want to see a final film in the prequel regardless, but this is really hurting the legacy. Ridley should back away and let somebody else direct and stop with the terrible terrible writing. Then can we please have the film everyone wants with ripley and hicks. 

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dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-27-2017 4:19 PM

I think RS said that there was never a script to begin with for A5. I am not against A5 but I am against erasing A3 and AR- regardless of who hates those movies. It is part of the Quadrilogy, warts and all.

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMay-27-2017 4:28 PM

JOHND, it's awesome that you joined (or rejoined) the site today to express your disappointment.

'I love the franchise and want to see a final film in the prequel regardless'

If you love the franchise, why don't you wait with your negative comment a month? Why do you try to manipulate others? Does expressing your negative feelings do good to the franchise? Hm?

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPMay-27-2017 4:28 PM

Here we go.....

*Blomkamp and Cameron bandwagon rolls again*

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-27-2017 4:35 PM

This idea can be expanded outside of movies. Maybe my favorite band will listen to my input on how their next album should be. After all, I am a fan and know better than they of how they should precede.

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPMay-27-2017 4:38 PM

*sings*...it just keeps rollin' along...

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

K-Theory

OvomorphMember86 XPMay-27-2017 4:38 PM

Yes, I agree. $100 million down the drain. They couldn't have made a DECENT damn alien city? SERIOUSLY!? WHY a DIRECT ripoff off the Vatican instead of something like the architecture in Exodus? 


Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMay-27-2017 4:44 PM

Because they wanted to show the possible impact of the Engineer culture on other engineered subspecies.

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-27-2017 4:47 PM

K-Theory  I didn't understand the Vatican rip off thing. I think it is cool and also that the reference was deliberate.

airshaft_surprise

FacehuggerMember293 XPMay-27-2017 4:55 PM

Why can't there be a John Denver reference in 2104?

No one said boo! when ripley was murmuring lucky star at the end of alien or dallas listening to ein kleine nacht music in the shuttle.

@Lone,*Blomkamp and Cameron bandwagon rolls again*, yep my friend sure sounds like it. 

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPMay-27-2017 4:57 PM

And what is even the reason for using the John Denver song. In the movie "Contact" the use of a TV image retransmitted by aliens was a clever touch, because that image proved to be something more than just that: it contained encrypted data. In Covenant the transmission is shown twice, just for the hell of it.

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPMay-27-2017 4:57 PM

Like I said before, I don't want Alien 5 to disregard Alien 3 and Alien Resurrection, they're fine Alien films, and I certainly don't want Blomkamp to direct an Alien film after Elysium and Chappie. 

Engineer Tech Brett

OvomorphMember59 XPMay-27-2017 4:58 PM

 

no worries of uncharted planet animals/organisms)

They had guns with them.

Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well.

Engineer Tech Brett

OvomorphMember59 XPMay-27-2017 5:01 PM

@Neomorph

Couldn't agree more, Elysium and Chappie were awful.

No wait, I don't agree with Resurrection its awful too.

Viddy well, little brother. Viddy well.

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-27-2017 5:05 PM

Make A5- fine. Don't crap on A3 or AR. IDK about Blomkamp- I never saw Crappie.

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPMay-27-2017 5:05 PM

Neo~ cover up that butt or it's gonna get hurt again! XD

*Looks for ma shoes*

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPMay-27-2017 5:14 PM

Lol Lone I'm so beyond butthurt regarding all the hate towards Resurrection that I've become immune to all the hate it gets. It's not perfect but I really like the characters, the new Ripley 8, the soundtrack, the art design, sound design, theyouknowwhat, and the fact that I thoroughly enjoy Resurrection as an entertaining film. 

EDIT: *Getsh shlapped by Sean Connery for having shuch terrible opinionsh*

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-27-2017 5:18 PM

Neomorph  I like Resurrection as well. We had some heated debates about it a few months ago but I am tired of defending it. I like it and if others don't, oh well.

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPMay-27-2017 5:20 PM

Glad you also like it dk :) I'm more praising it than defending it though.

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-27-2017 5:22 PM

Neomorph- Understood. I defended it before because I did praise it. Others outright hate it- almost as much as I hate Prometheus.

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPMay-27-2017 5:26 PM

dk Why do you hate Prometheus. The Juggernaut crash sequence alone is worth the price of admission. And I'm just talking about the visuals, there is nothing of that scale in Covenant, for instance.

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPMay-27-2017 5:32 PM

dk, yeah even Alien Resurrection is less incoherent than the mess Prometheus and manages to tell a story better as well, regardless of how people find the quality of it. It has better pacing too imo.

*CASTING MEGA ASS BARRIER +3 ON MYSELF* 

(It's true though)

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-27-2017 5:37 PM

joylitt Caveat- David was outstanding. I have to agree that the Juggernaut crash was the crown jewel of the movie- and the cartoonish running inline with the path of the crashing ship really pushed it over the edge.

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPMay-27-2017 5:51 PM

Well Dk if you think that was cartoonish then you are going to have a field day when you finally get to see Covenant. You get campy moments added to that, like when they ask David how long do storms last on the planet and he says "Daaays... weeeeks... sometime months" in a tone that reminds me of Vincent Price doing a self parody. So many WTF moments....

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-27-2017 5:53 PM

I am more confident about AC. As David said- As long as it is no worse.

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPMay-27-2017 6:06 PM

Remember in Prometheus after Vickers torches Holloway? That is the moment when the movie stops making much sense, it is very surreal with Shaw fleeing the medics in a very unconvincing way, with nobody trying to stop her while she performs the surgery, etc. That is the feeling you get  while watching Covenant as soon as the second act kicks in.

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-27-2017 6:10 PM

joylitt Unfortunately I do remember what you describe. I didn't like Shaw or any one else except David- Vickers and Janick were ok but under utilized IMO. And Weyland would have better if they just got Patrick Stewart and made him up a bit.

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-27-2017 6:43 PM

Here is what the Juggernaut crash scene reminded me of:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s12GXksZd38

 

 

Falconer

OvomorphMember66 XPMay-27-2017 11:51 PM

way too much use of CGI in this film, yes.

 

MonsterZero

XenomorphMember1246 XPMay-28-2017 7:32 AM

Not sure I could stomach puppets. I think CGI is the lesser evil.

It's taken me awhile to get used to the Hulk being CGI or Groot......But I really can't see a better way.

CGI is 50 years away from being okay...100 years from being great....2017 is only about 10 years from the Avatar breakthrough.    

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