Let's see some love for Guy Pearce as Weyland!!
Qubism
MemberFacehuggerMay-13-2017 1:49 PMPROLOGUE to my main post: Non spoiler issues when I went to see the movie;
First up I bought my Nachos and melty cheese and my melty ice cream, looked at the films list in the cinema and had to find a cinema member of staff!
I told them "Look, I've been waiting five years for this and I can't see 'Liaen Oven Can't' listed anywhere! There's been a few name changes, from Prometheus 2 to Alien Paradise so I hope you've kept up with the current title"
The smart-ass tried to tell me the actual current title was Alien Covenant and I told them that's not what the advert on the bus said! Anyway I paid my money and honestly, I think it was money well spent!
My real reason for this post is to heap some praise on Guy Pearce! I love his character of Weyland. Also I think the Weyland and David prologue give a vital insight into the themes that make AC not just a gore fest. I love how this part shows us some bits of our real culture like the art and design and Michael Angelo's creation, David-the statue. Of course the statue is a pale white giant with familiar features again reminding us of the engineers. The choice of music David plays, Richard Wagner's "The Gods Entering Valhalla" also makes us think of who the Gods are, who are the creators and who is the created?
I think the Weyland character is fascinating and does have some real world parallels. Prime candidate is surely Elon Musk, the most likely person to get space exploration going with just the money from his own pocket rather than NASA or any other Country's Government space agency. 2nd place goes to Richard BRANSON (Branson? he's in the film isn't he?!). If either of these two start going on about us being the Gods now, we should keep an eye on them! Especially if they also start a line of androids/replicants!
I really hope we see a bit more of Weyland again in the next movie. I'm sure Ripley can think of another flashback that again sheds some light on some of the themes. I'm really glad we saw young Weyland again after enjoying the TED talk prologue for Prometheus. I actually wish now the TED talk was actually in the 1st movie, I watched a fan edit with TED and all the extra/deleted bits thrown back in and I loved it. Weyland has some interesting things to say about our history of discovery/creation/invention of tools from fire thru gunpowder to the printing press right up to androids. Interestingly all of these things can be used for good or bad, it's our choice....
I don't see much written about Guy Pearce in the movie, everyone says "Fassbender gives a masterclass performance" but I genuinely think Pearce is a good actor too. I love how his face falls when David is kinda getting a bit uppity and tells him to pour the tea! You can see here that David is a bit surprised that he seems to be better than his own creator. He is perfect, has a better brain, will never die of old age etc etc.
Their conversation is very important:
“If you created me” David asks of Weyland, “Who created you?”.
“All art and design are meaningless in the face of the question of where do we come from” he answers (or words to that effect).
So here's a toast to Weyland the character and Guy Pearce the actor!
I would even love to see a stand alone movie with a young Weyland and maybe featuring his pal Eldon Tyrell and his creations. Maybe I won't get that movie but maybe a book or graphic novel? I hope Weyland is somehow featured in Alien:Origins and sheds some more light on this universe :-)
PS Everybody watching The Eurovision Song Contest??!! Ukraine's band are on now and seem to have a giant engineer head on their stage! They must have have been inspired by Prometheus and AC!
Blackwinter-witch
MemberPraetorianMay-13-2017 3:45 PMHe's one of my favorite actors, and I hope we get to see more tidbits and such about Peter Weyland's life in the future.
IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING
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MemberTrilobiteMay-13-2017 3:50 PMI try to ignore certain spoilers, but I am looking forward to seeing a younger Weyland in AC if possible- I thought his character was wasted in Prometheus compared to his Ted talk performance.
Stan Winston (deceased)
MemberFacehuggerMay-13-2017 5:11 PMThe one thing Alien Versus Predator got right is to cast Lance Henriksen as Charles Bishop Weyland.
Prometheus ought to have continued that notion, and Guy Pierce should have been cast as Holloway.
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MemberFacehuggerMay-14-2017 7:48 PM@BWW, as a fellow aussie to mr pearce, i agree, jack irish great show and all the other roles he's played as ridley scott said the guy can play anthing.
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MemberFacehuggerMay-14-2017 7:50 PM@BWW, as a fellow aussie to mr pearce, i agree, jack irish great show and all the other roles he's played as ridley scott said the guy can play anthing.
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MemberFacehuggerMay-14-2017 7:50 PM@BWW, as a fellow aussie to mr pearce, i agree, jack irish great show and all the other roles he's played as ridley scott said the guy can play anthing.
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MemberFacehuggerMay-14-2017 7:54 PMSorry peoples about the triple post, went a bit haywire, story of my life hahahaha!
Qubism
MemberFacehuggerMay-15-2017 5:03 AMI thought you were just triple-bumping the topic to get it noticed again! Buuuuuuuuuump!
Qubism
MemberFacehuggerMay-15-2017 5:09 AMThis is O Torvald singing for UKRAINE in Kiev Ukraine in the 2017 Eurovision song contest (which includes Israel and Australia! EU expansion plans eh?!)
Surely he's seen Prometheus....
Working Joe
MemberOvomorphMay-15-2017 5:42 AMHe is incredible. I hope we see more flashbacks of him in the future installments.
What if he made a cameo in Blade Runner 2049? :O
Wonder Boy
MemberOvomorphMay-15-2017 6:37 AMTo be honest - it is probably the easiest role to play in the whole film. Sarcasm + the cynicism and moodiness that comes with extreme wealth - a dream role for any actor. Probably even a few forum members here who could play the part expertly.
Starlogger
MemberChestbursterMay-15-2017 6:48 AMOther than the downright HORRIFIC third-grade make up job they did on him in Prometheus, where they ruined his character, and he overacted trying to be "old", I do love Guy Pearce in the role. He is certainly underused, but I hope he plays a bigger role in some of the coming movies.
Qubism
MemberFacehuggerMay-15-2017 7:29 AMI think I liked the character best in the TED talk and so I also would like to see more young Weyland (are you listening Fox & Sir Ridley????!)
If we campaigned for not enough xenos in Prometheus maybe we can campaign for more young Weyland!
Starlogger
MemberChestbursterMay-15-2017 12:05 PM@Qubism I don't care if he's "young" or "old", just so he NEVER appears in that ridiculous hack job of a makeup job and acts as ridiculous as he did as that "OLD" Weyland ever again. I cannot believe, as good an actor as he is, that he acted that way AND allowed such pitiful makeup to be used on him.
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MemberFacehuggerMay-15-2017 5:28 PM@Qubism, lol! purely accidental, isn't that the juggernaut behind the head, with the 3 oval hatches?, sure looks like it.
his role in prometheus and AC are not lengthy, but his previous roles in other tv and movies he is main character and does a good job of it.
Lifeatthebottom
MemberOvomorphMay-16-2017 11:54 AMI always said that Peter Weyland's character was the second biggest let down aside from the Engineers. So much potential but they decide to keep him a secret half way in prometheus and then he has a small role here in AC. To me he was such a powerful character. Just by his speech alone.
After watching his Ted talk numerous times, I can't help but think what would a TV show titled 'Weyland' be like? I know a lot of people start to favour Tv shows as each episode you can develop the character further as opposed to contributing to cinema for 2 hours. They could touch upon certain topics relating to the Project Prometheus website. and maybe break it down to 2 or 3 seasons, as the website does state he did many great things.
The marketing promo stuff for Prometheus was really impressive and well done and thought out.