Egg origin (spoilers)
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianMay-08-2017 8:45 PMThat is Dr. Shaw dead above in David 8's workshop.
And these below may have come from her.
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianMay-08-2017 8:55 PMI think you may be on to something Rick.
Rick
MemberXenomorphMay-08-2017 8:57 PMI think one of the "unguns" is actually a flash light that fell in a huge pile of Shiznit from the guy looking up at the alien
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianMay-08-2017 9:09 PMHere is the close up in the workshop enhanced, reversed value.
Shasta cyclone
MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 2:43 AMthat is interesting. I hope its revealed how it happened. wonder if she grew (bones) in cryo. which could also reveal how maybe the space jokey grew into/out of the pilot chair.
chli
MemberChestbursterMay-09-2017 5:13 AMIt certainly looks like Shaw. Maybe the prolog was a red herring (meant for us to believe that David had learned the meaning of affection towards another being)?
However, the corps seems to have been chestbursted (or is it an autopsy)? Also, the problem with David creating the eggs (through Shaw?) and the xenomorph is how to connect it to the original Alien movie (the space jockey being fossilized)?
Well, we’ll soon find out . . . :)
Myrddin365
MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 5:21 AMIf it's Shaw, and I can't deny the possibility, then my theory is that the stasis tube or prior exposure to the goo causes the changes you see around her head and what not. She starts producing eggs. It's awful for her and she either dies or begs David to kill her, and David nukes the engineers for ruining the only human he liked.
That would also explain his almost sentimental treatment of the eggs. Fun thought experiment.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!
BlackGooDrinker
MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 5:29 AMLets remember that it was David's fault she got infected in the first place. So i dont buy that he destroyed a civilization because of Shaw
Is there an agenda the mods are not telling us about? ;)
M577
MemberOvomorphMay-09-2017 5:31 AMMyrddin365 interesting theory! How do we explain the size of the eggs though? They're 3ft high and 2ft wide, Holloway wasn't a black dude either.
Unless they start small and grow into their full size after Shaw pops 'em out?
Myrddin365
MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 5:33 AMM577 either way, that's why it was awful.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!
Shasta cyclone
MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 5:54 AMI still think the eggs are grown.....somehow. I think he may have improved on an already egg design based on the mural in Prometheus which showed a type of egg facehugger.
Starlogger
MemberChestbursterMay-09-2017 6:00 AM@BlackGooDrinker He indirectly poisoned Shaw, well before he knew how it might be passed along, and certainly well before he formed his post-Prometheus bond with her.
Tiwaz
MemberChestbursterMay-09-2017 6:52 AMI think it's save to assume Shaw is dead.
Question is, is the person on the table also Shaw?
The person on the table , however, is missing the little pit mark on the nose tip. In my pic the mark is present.
Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.
Movie fan
MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 7:42 AMTiwaz, Where the heck did you get that picture!?
Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)
Myrddin365
MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 7:57 AMThat's a drawing, but compelling nonetheless.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!
Tiwaz
MemberChestbursterMay-09-2017 8:05 AMHBO First Look: Alien: Covenant
At 1:10.
Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.
Davefried81
MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 8:09 AMIs that a drawing in Davids workshop?? It is cray cray!
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianMay-09-2017 8:58 AMThat is an excellent point Shasta cyclone in regards to the growth on the Space Jockey chair. I believe that is an incredible connection.
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianMay-09-2017 9:00 AMThank you for the links and the image Tiwaz.
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianMay-09-2017 9:04 AMAwesome question chli.
"However, the corps seems to have been chestbursted (or is it an autopsy)? Also, the problem with David creating the eggs (through Shaw?) and the xenomorph is how to connect it to the original Alien movie (the space jockey being fossilized)?"
You can see the ribs cut and the skin pulled back right under her chin in orderly autopsy/harvest fashion.
BigChap72
MemberOvomorphMay-09-2017 9:06 AMYes, it'll be interesting to see how the Derelict's Space Jockey on LV-426 became, or appeared, "fossilized". I'm wondering if the Space Jockey was fleeing from David, then David causes it to crash, then he sets up the Space Jockey for impregnation and sends the distress beacon for a future W-Y synthetic to intercept and lead another team (in this case, the Nostromo) to their doom. Of course, I'm assuming that David makes it through Covenant to continue being Dr. Frankenstein :-)
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianMay-09-2017 9:11 AMHere are enhanced close ups of the growth around Dr. Shaw and the Space Jockey.
Tiwaz
MemberChestbursterMay-09-2017 9:23 AMFor a cadaver being fossilized it needs to be encased in a medium (mud, earth etc.). Given the right conditions fossilization can even be a matter of months.
Problem is, the Jockey isn't encased. If anything it is mummified or desiccated.
Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianMay-09-2017 9:48 AMThis fossilization schedule all changed with the Space Jockey an underlying infection of black goo similar to Dr. Shaw Tiwaz.
It is obvious that the Engineer hypersleep chamber was unable to keep Dr. Shaw from changing with her infection.
The Space Jockey was obviously infected too with the chest busting evidence and appears to further mutate past that injury.
Myrddin365
MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 9:52 AMIt actually looks like whatever caused the metamorphosis made her burst from the inside and start producing eggs. The bones holding back the skin appear to be growing into it.and the ribs appear to have grown outward. They don't look broken or cut. That's creepy AF.
Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!
BigDave
MemberDeaconMay-09-2017 10:26 AMGoing to be busy today, but will reply to all this new Topics..
For now the only Un-Thing i can see..
Is Davids Un-socks
R.I.P Sox 01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017
Ingeniero
MemberPraetorianMay-09-2017 10:56 AMThank you BigDave. We are in the middle of full-blast image inspired speculation here and will most definitely need a Moderator/Commentator as yourself.
dk
MemberTrilobiteMay-09-2017 11:00 AMHas anyone considered the Engineer sleep pod played a role other than a place to sleep?
Tiwaz
MemberChestbursterMay-09-2017 11:02 AMWe do? ;) It's al civil and dandy, it is not?
Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.