Egg origin (spoilers)

Ingeniero

That is Dr. Shaw dead above in David 8's workshop.

And these below may have come from her.

Rick

Engi - There are "unguns" in dem dare parts 

Ingeniero

I think you may be on to something Rick. 

Rick

I think one of the "unguns" is actually a flash light that fell in a huge pile of Shiznit from the guy looking up at the alien

Ingeniero

Great prediction months ago birdman here.

Ingeniero

Here is the close up in the workshop enhanced, reversed value.

Shasta cyclone

that is interesting. I hope its revealed how it happened. wonder if she grew (bones) in cryo. which could also reveal how maybe the space jokey grew into/out of the pilot chair.

chli

It certainly looks like Shaw. Maybe the prolog was a red herring (meant for us to believe that David had learned the meaning of affection towards another being)?

However, the corps seems to have been chestbursted (or is it an autopsy)? Also, the problem with David creating the eggs (through Shaw?) and the xenomorph is how to connect it to the original Alien movie (the space jockey being fossilized)?

Well, we’ll soon find out . . . :)

Myrddin365

If it's Shaw, and I can't deny the possibility, then my theory is that the stasis tube or prior exposure to the goo causes the changes you see around her head and what not. She starts producing eggs. It's awful for her and she either dies or begs David to kill her, and David nukes the engineers for ruining the only human he liked.

That would also explain his almost sentimental treatment of the eggs. Fun thought experiment.

BlackGooDrinker

Lets remember that it was David's fault she got infected in the first place. So i dont buy that he destroyed a civilization because of Shaw

M577

Myrddin365 interesting theory! How do we explain the size of the eggs though? They're 3ft high and 2ft wide, Holloway wasn't a black dude either.

Unless they start small and grow into their full size after Shaw pops 'em out?

Myrddin365

M577 either way, that's why it was awful.

Shasta cyclone

I still think the eggs are grown.....somehow. I think he may have improved on an already egg design based on the mural in Prometheus which showed a type of egg facehugger.

Starlogger

@BlackGooDrinker He indirectly poisoned Shaw, well before he knew how it might be passed along, and certainly well before he formed his post-Prometheus bond with her.

Tiwaz

I think it's save to assume Shaw is dead.

Question is, is the person on the table also Shaw? 

The person on the table , however, is missing the little pit mark on the nose tip. In my pic the mark is present.

Movie fan

Tiwaz, Where the heck did you get that picture!?

Myrddin365

That's a drawing, but compelling nonetheless. 

Tiwaz

HBO First Look: Alien: Covenant

At 1:10.

Davefried81

Is that a drawing in Davids workshop??  It is cray cray!

Ingeniero

That is an excellent point Shasta cyclone in regards to the growth on the Space Jockey chair. I believe that is an incredible connection.

Ingeniero

Thank you for the links and the image Tiwaz.

Ingeniero

Awesome question chli.

"However, the corps seems to have been chestbursted (or is it an autopsy)? Also, the problem with David creating the eggs (through Shaw?) and the xenomorph is how to connect it to the original Alien movie (the space jockey being fossilized)?"

You can see the ribs cut and the skin pulled back right under her chin in orderly autopsy/harvest fashion.

BigChap72

Yes, it'll be interesting to see how the Derelict's Space Jockey on LV-426 became, or appeared, "fossilized". I'm wondering if the Space Jockey was fleeing from David, then David causes it to crash, then he sets up the Space Jockey for impregnation and sends the distress beacon for a future W-Y synthetic to intercept and lead another team (in this case, the Nostromo) to their doom. Of course, I'm assuming that David makes it through Covenant to continue being Dr. Frankenstein :-)

Ingeniero

Here are enhanced close ups of the growth around Dr. Shaw and the Space Jockey.

Tiwaz

For a cadaver being fossilized it needs to be encased in a medium (mud, earth etc.). Given the right conditions fossilization can even be a matter of months.

Problem is, the Jockey isn't encased.  If anything it is mummified or desiccated. 

Ingeniero

This fossilization schedule all changed with the Space Jockey an underlying infection of black goo similar to Dr. Shaw Tiwaz.

It is obvious that the Engineer hypersleep chamber was unable to keep Dr. Shaw from changing with her infection.

The Space Jockey was obviously infected too with the chest busting evidence and appears to further mutate past that injury. 

Myrddin365

It actually looks like whatever caused the metamorphosis made her burst from the inside and start producing eggs. The bones holding back the skin appear to be growing into it.and the ribs appear to have grown outward. They don't look broken or cut. That's creepy AF.

BigDave

Going to be busy today, but will reply to all this new Topics..

For now the only Un-Thing i can see..

Is Davids Un-socks

Ingeniero

Thank you BigDave. We are in the middle of full-blast image inspired speculation here and will most definitely need a Moderator/Commentator as yourself.

dk

Has anyone considered the Engineer sleep pod played a role other than a place to sleep?

Tiwaz

We do? ;) It's al civil and dandy, it is not?