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Jem587

FacehuggerMember164 XPMay-03-2017 3:23 PM

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Ryan_C

FacehuggerMember161 XPMay-03-2017 7:25 PM

Oh my god guys.  Everyone is welcome on this site I'm sure.  Stop trying to force everyone to celebrate your sexuality.  No one cares.  Its an alien covenant web site...

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-03-2017 7:25 PM

The only difference I saw was that the "trolling" was identified and became obvious, things started to get back onto interesting things and there was no intervention from staff/admin. This was a good thread imho. Yes, I trolled the troll too but there was no fighting.

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMay-03-2017 7:36 PM

Yes, it's an alien covenant website, and the movie will feature a couple in question, so it's relevant and we can talk about it, I think it does not mean a celebration - but OK, if you don't want it, let's jump...

DirtWolf

FacehuggerMember119 XPMay-03-2017 7:47 PM

I don't think that review was particularly hateful at all.  A little insensitive, maybe.  But the person is expressing how they feel about what I assume is a perceived militant homosexual/leftist agenda being forced upon them, not anything negative about homosexuals themselves.  As I haven't seen the film yet, I can't comment as to whether the portrayal of the gay couple seems to be promoting such an agenda, or seems excessive in any way.  But from the looks of it, I don't think so.

Although promoting such an agenda does seem to be somewhat of a popular trend in media lately, it seems this person is reaching and overreacting.  It's very annoying and somewhat disheartening when conservatives go searching for bad guys where there are none, and whining about things, much like the leftists they mock for doing so.  

As for the inclusion of a homosexual couple in Covenant itself, it seems pretty natural to me, and not at all excessive.  When dealing with a mission of colonization, couples and sex are a natural part of that.  So it makes sense that among a bunch of straight couples, there would naturally be a gay couple, as homosexuality is not at all uncommon.  

The only thing I can see going against a gay couple in this situation is that they're not ideal for procreation.  But that doesn't take into account what other value they can add to the mission, which really depends on their personality, skills, merits, etc...  Also, they add 2 more sets of genes to possibly be used if things became dire and such an action was necessary.  

I don't think the inclusion of a gay couple in itself is progressive, as homosexuality in media is pretty commonplace nowadays.  But the portrayal of the couple might be progressive, as gay characters can still be somewhat of a stereotype in media, so a portrayal that strays away from that could be considered progressive.  

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPMay-03-2017 8:17 PM

Anyway I just want to say we don't know anything about user's identities and backgrounds in here. I just wish to send my support to Jem587 whoever he or she is. Maybe just a kid who was reaching out with a positive message of tolerance, maybe someone who is just is happy that his favorite director finally features some characters he or she can identify with. Not a celebration, just someone having a social expression, something everybody is entitled to. 

Rick

XenomorphMember1261 XPMay-04-2017 5:36 PM

Hmmm......says he's gay but he goes with the crowd?  Did I miss something somewhere?

Jem587

FacehuggerMember164 XPMay-04-2017 5:47 PM

@Rick

I wasn't going with the crowd. The topic become too controversial so I decided for its own good to close it. People were getting obviously upset so it didn't make sense to keep it going..

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-04-2017 5:51 PM

There were a couple of us who liked the direction it started to take in the late part when serious observations were being made. Oh well.

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