Close
Sign in with your E-Mail & Password
Alien Discussion Forums

Do the math: the Prometheus ship was traveling over 15 times the speed of light

9,323 Views10 RepliesAdd A Reply
Forum Topic

nostromo001

OvomorphMember0 XPOct-14-2012 9:18 AMWhen you watch the text at the beginning of Prometheus after the finding of the cave paintings on the Ile of the Skye in Scotland they give the distance in units of kilometers. Then if you take the speed of light and do the conversions you get that the distance to zeta II reticuli, at this point an undisclosed location, is 34.6 light years and it is 2.6 years approx. later so to have arrived at this distance would require they are traveling at over 15 X the speed of light or in Star trek terms greater than warp 15! If only we as the human race could actually achieve the technology to move that fast, we would be living in a world with many more possibilities. So for now let us join in suspending our disbelief and hope that someday the laws of physics will allow us to accomplish this ability and let us also hope that we can overcome our petty differences so that we may combine our best minds and work in unison toward this goal. Oct 14 in the year of our Lord 2012.
[img]http://0.tqn.com/d/chemistry/1/0/E/1/1/chemistry-glassware.jpg[/img]
10 Responses to Do the math: the Prometheus ship was traveling over 15 times the speed of light

Koujilovesdrhell

OvomorphMember0 XPOct-14-2012 9:32 AMDue to the theory of relativity it is my understanding that it was 2 years for the crew but decades on earth. That is why Wayland said he was long dead. (please anyone correct me if I am wrong) Also, I remember that Ridley mentioned in an interview that this movie deals with relativity in a realistic way.

Ghost Solitare

OvomorphMember0 XPOct-14-2012 11:41 AMUnfortunately Star Trek warp velocities are measured exponentially, see formula below. Warp Factor VxC (TNG) VxC (TOS Scale x chi) 1 1 1,292.7238 2 10 10,341.7904 3 39 34,903.5426 4 102 82,734.3232 5 214 161,590.4750 6 392 279,228.3407 7 656 443,404.2634 8 1,024 661,874.5856 9 1,516 942,395.6502 9.2 1,649 9.6 1,909 9.975 3,053 9.99 7,912 9.9999 199,516 10 Infinite 1,292,723.8 The average value of chi = 1292.7238 As Roddenberry was the original creator of the franchise his establishing a new set of rules concerning warp velocities is canon. There is no longer a warp 15, or any velocity above warp 10. That would suggest in terms of comparative technologies that a Star Trek vessel would be travelling somewhere between warp 2 and 3 in order to reach Zeta Ret in 2 years time. I agree that you have to suspend your disbelief if you want to enjoy any Sci Fi as relativistic effects are always negated in the majority of contemporary space travel. Warp Factor VxC (TNG) 1 1c 2 10 3 39 4 102 5 214 6 392 7 656 8 1,024 9 1,516 9.2 1,649 9.6 1,909 9.975 3,053 9.99 7,912 9.9999 199,516 10 Infinite

zzplural

OvomorphMember0 XPOct-14-2012 1:03 PMYou do the math yourself. Check out Time Dilation and the Lorentz Transformation in Wikipedia. It's not science fiction.
The most terrifying fact about the universe is not that it is hostile but that it is indifferent

tankgirl

OvomorphMember0 XPOct-14-2012 7:25 PMThought you might find this an interesting read on the topic! : ) The Warp Drive Could Become Science Fact:[url=http://news.discovery.com/space/warp-drive-possible-nasa-tests-100yss-120917.html]Discovery News[/url]
\"My God, its full of stars\" David Bowman

Custodian

OvomorphMember0 XPOct-16-2012 12:56 PM'in a Spock voice of condescending eyebrow twitchery', "Fascinating."
2013 sci-fi horror novels 'Custodian' and 'Tandem' available from Amazon, B&N, iTunes etc...

Indy John

OvomorphMember0 XPNov-14-2012 12:21 PMI I read this article and it seemed like plausable science. Now let's see a demomstration any demonstration..in the next 20 years.
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life

expert

OvomorphMember0 XPSep-11-2013 8:24 PMI really know the speed

expert

OvomorphMember0 XPSep-11-2013 8:39 PMMy calculations shows me that the U.S.C.S.S PROMETHEUS was travelling at speed of 14.485766 times speed of light or 4 342 716.760672 km per second( 2 698 439.091127796 miles per second[in kilometers is exactly ,in miles approximately ])or very near to 0.039659806 LYSD(light year per sidereal day). Here are my explanations, I hope you understand Distance from earth: 327 000 000 000 000 km or very near to 34.56 -34.57 LY(34.563927272608 LY exactly [9 460 730 472 580.94 km is a light year] ) Time to reach the lv-223:2 years,4 months,18 d,12 h,15m So as the ship left the planet earth in early august 2091 and reached the planet in 21 of December in 2093(31.30.31.30),so two days more. Now 730 days,122 days,18 days,36 hours,15 min 871 days with 12 h and 15m. *4 342 716.760672 *86400 ( 1 day) =375 210 728 122.0608 km 375 210 728 122.0608*871(days) 326 808 544 194 314.9568 km 4 342 716.760672 *43200(seconds,12 hours)=187 605 364 061.0304 km 4 342 716.760672 *900(15 min)=3 908 445 084.6048 km Now 326 808 544 194 314.9568 + 187 605 364 061.0304 +3 908 445 084.6048 =327 000 058 003 460.592 km (only 58 million of difference ,that is nothing to the ship) so the ship stops just before reach it destiny, as in the movie. I hope all of you understand me, bye.

djamelameziane

FacehuggerMember143 XPSep-12-2013 6:11 AMYer thats what I thought too :p . I doubt anyone making the film knew this judging by the level of detail they were working at!

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Savage1701

OvomorphMember2 XPFeb-02-2021 10:38 AM

 

Koujilovesdrhell:

No, I think Wayland said he was dead because he was lying.  He was old and dying but was hidden on the ship in stasis.  

My understanding of the Alien universe is that they use time expansion instead of time dilation.  So, the earth does not age thousands of years while they sleep for a couple of years while traveling at 15c.  Instead, time proceeds at an accelerated rate INSIDE the ship, so all occupants must be in suspended animation or they would age decades or more during a flight that only took a couple of years from the perspective of someone on earth.  That's how they get around one group aging more than another, and why only robots can be active during a journey like that.

Add A Reply
Log in to Post
Enter Your E-Mail
Enter Your Password

Stay Logged In
Scified Network
Godzilla-Movies.comHosted Community
JurassicWorld3.netHosted Community
Alien-Covenant.comHosted Community
AliensVersus
Predator.net
Hosted Community
Predator4-Movie.comHosted Community
New Alien: Covenant Forum Topics
Highest Forum Ranks Unlocked
BigDave
BigDave
51% To Next Rank
Deacon
Thoughts_Dreams
Thoughts_Dreams
77% To Next Rank
Neomorph
Resurgence
Resurgence
87% To Next Rank
Facehugger
Jonesy
Jonesy
76% To Next Rank
Facehugger
Captain Cold
Captain Cold
65% To Next Rank
Ovomorph
Latest Alien Fandom Activity
Get this Prometheus sweater!
Alien Sweater

Alien: Covenant is a sequel to 2012's Prometheus as well as a prequel to 1979's ALIEN. Alien fans looking to know more about Alien: Covenant should check back often. Alien-Covenant.com is an information resource for film enthusiasts looking to learn more about the upcoming blockbuster Alien: Covenant. Providing the latest official and accurate information on Alien: Covenant, this website contains links to every set video, viral video, commercial, trailer, poster, movie still and screenshot available. This site is an extension of the Alien & Predator Fandom on Scified - a central hub for fans of Alien and Prometheus looking to stay up-to-date on the latest news. Images used are property of their respective owners. Alien: Covenant, Prometheus and its associated names, logos and images are property of 20th Century Fox and are in no way owned by Scified and its related entities. This is a fan-created website for the purpose of informing and exciting fans for Alien: Covenant's release. If you have any questions about this site, its content or the Scified Network in general, feel free to contact Scified directly.

Scified is an entertainment media network covering the latest news on the most popular, upcoming science fiction movies, games and television. All content is property of Scified.com unless otherwise stated. Images and names of content we promote, discuss, review or report are property of their respective owners. Scified is independantly owned and operated by a team of dedicated sci-fi movie fans, who strive to provide the best information and community experience for other like-minded sci-fi movie enthusiasts.

© 2021 Scified.com