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Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-04-2017 11:17 PM

UPDATE: September 05 2017***************

ALIEN: Manticore is now past the 110,000 word mark. :D
That's why I've been so scarce around here, busy-busy-busy with writing and housekeeping, Life's usual hurdles, etc..
There's also short-stories coming soon-ish. They're being worked on, but have to be adjusted as the Main story progresses to eliminate continuity errors and such other annoyances.

One short-story ties-in to a work found here having to do with Walter's fate on 'Paradise'.

The other gives my views on the origin of The Alien, which I am titling ALIEN: Origins and it's far more deserving of that title than Alan Dean Foster's Covenant prequel.

A third short-story is loosely-related to the ALIENverse, but will be available for reading also.

END UPDATE*******************

I'll be posting little excerpts and teasers here, entertaining questions (though some I may not be able to answer) and I hope you guys enjoy this little window into my perspective on the ALIENverse. :) This is all partially-edited  material, so it's going to be rough and have flaws.

This little bit calls-back to something Ridley Scott wanted for ALIEN, the 'flying mouse drones'. I love the idea, and as a nod of Respect and Appreciation to R. Scott, here they are in their scene.

" The ship tended itself, and it’s hibernating crew conscientiously. It constantly monitored everything aboard and outside, surveilling the cosmos via it’s sensor arrays and their sophisticated instruments. It watched, listened, and in some ways it ‘smelled’ ‘touched’ and ‘tasted’ the universe around it.
In the engine section and elsewhere throughout the vessel, the hundreds of tiny drones that swarmed and flitted about only in the absence of the crew had once again emerged, performing their tasks tirelessly. They were semi-autonomous mouse-sized extensions of the mainframe intelligence, it’s roving eyes, ears and hands, ever-vigilant over their country of darkened, cold, minimal-gravity, nitrogen-filled corridors, rooms and chambers.
As the ship came into range of comm relays, it established contact, checked for messages and other items of information the crew had stated preferences for. It collected what there was to be had, flagged items for each member of the crew and continued it’s vigil and voyage.

Sometime later, a signal impinged on antennae sensitive enough to pick up the extremely weak radio-frequency emission, one in the sub-milliwatt range, and conforming to no known comms protocol. It ran, there was a break of precisely twelve seconds, then the signal repeated again.
The computer recorded it, worked out a fix on the emission-point, and flagged it for the Captain’s attention.
Weeks later, it detected a new signal, from the same emission-point as the earlier one. This one was stronger and clearer: A standard-format distress beacon and Emergency Location Beacon.
The artificial intelligence double-checked the emission-point, re-analyzed the earlier, now silent, beacon and compared it to the Interstellar Trade and Commerce Commission standard beacon it had detected. It examined the distances involved to the nearest comm relay, worked out how many years the EM signal would take to reach it at the light-speed limits of radio transmissions.

Manticore did not possess the ITCC-mandated overrides that would force it to go to the distress beacon. The laws on Shadowfall dictated that responding to a distress beacon was strictly ‘Captain’s Discretion’.
In accordance with that, the computer began restoring the ship to Human Habitation standards, altering course to the star system that the emissions were coming from and bringing the Captain out of hypersleep.
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IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

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dk

MemberTrilobiteApr-20-2017 1:50 AM

BWW- Understood. Thanks for the clarification.

dk

MemberTrilobiteApr-20-2017 2:00 AM

SM- You have put out interesting observations on many topics and have challenged me- sometimes giving me pause and I can appreciate that. Honestly, when offering constructive criticism or offering insights as I presume, your candour lacks so much tact that you are perceived as a troll. Is that your intent?

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-20-2017 2:05 AM

dk

Yw :)

Also, good Inquiry-post of S.M, very well-phrased!

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Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-20-2017 4:44 AM

As I don't have any kind of budget, or staff, equipment, skills or such in making a Trailer for ALIEN: Manticore, I'll try it the following way.

For those of you just finding your way here to my Topic, this might help you as a guide.

**NO Spoilers are in this, so it's OK to look, I know some of you are being very careful now about Spoilers in general, and I have taken that into account.**

ALIEN: Manticore is set and runs strictly off Ridley Scott's work in the franchise.
*The timeline is set Post-Nostromo incident and Pre-Hadley's Hope incident.
*Ripley does NOT enter into the story whatsoever.
*Given the restructuring of Canon by FOX, I have taken some conservative liberties with how events in my story will affect future events that are very likely to be removed from Canon.
*One of the characters is non-Human, non-Synthetic and non-Extraterrestrial.
*The ship itself is a privately-owned starship, thus better equipped and better appointed than a corporate workhorse.
*In tone and theme, it's much more akin to PROMETHEUS than ALIEN.
*It DOES actually provide some answers, but probably not as many as you'd like. ;)
*This crew acts like intelligent people who have a keen understanding of how dangerous living and working in space can be. Don't expect any of them to pull a 'Holloway Helmet Maneuver'.
*Not one of them is in any way religious.
*It leads into a follow-up story, which is in development.

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Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-25-2017 3:34 PM

A little something in the spirit of ALIEN-Day :D

EXCERPT- ALIEN: Manticore

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Declan ignored the landscape, the winds, the thickly misted darkness and the rest of the planetoid’s weather as he kept an eye out to notice any movement that was distinctly non-environmental. He and Selinaehra descended from the ventral main airlock via the personnel elevator-lift that was supported by a magnehydraulic telescoping-frame extending down from the airlock’s exterior doors to the surface below. Located near to the bow landing gear strut and closely outside the main airlock‘s outer doors, the lift was a broad platform, two-and-a-half by three-and-a-half metres squared, meant for moving large and heavy items as well as people and did so smoothly. It stopped as it’s base touched the coldly-solid stone terrain below it, the two spacesuited figures stepped off it, then it began to rise back up towards the ship, it’s six-section support frame telescoping upwards as it went.
He and Selinaehra were dwarfed to an intimidating small scale relative to the immense landing gear struts supporting the ship’s mountainous bulk and mass looming above them. On each immense strut were rotating bright yellow beacon lights, meant to aid in finding one‘s way among them in conditions such as the gloomily-dark tempest roiling about the ship at present. Their suits were equipped with direction-finders that keyed to the airlock beacon and they both carried independent backup units on their equipment belts. Still electronics could fail, local conditions could seriously interfere with radio communications and if such occurred the beacons on the ship’s landing legs would guide them home.
They both wore ruggedized super-duty high-mobility environmental worksuits, with heavy full-coverage workarmor over them. Being personal property, they weren’t generic off-the-rack pieces and had been tailored to fit much better which allowed greater freedom of movement and were somewhat tougher to breach than off-the-rack. The helmets had reflection-free, condensation-free, triple-pane faceplates, a safety feature vs. accidental breaches by small high-velocity debris when salvaging a wreck in open space. The suit gauntlets they wore were more akin to combat gloves than a spacesuit‘s gauntlets. Very expensive, they interfered only minimally in operating controls or a weapon unlike normal worksuit gauntlets.
The weapons they carried low on their hips were H&K MP-7L submachineguns, which were among the best laser weapons made, the laser-based descendant of the venerable MP-7 submachinegun. They were accurate, powerful, extremely well-balanced and could be easily handled with one hand, or one could extend the stock as well as flip the foregrip down for a steadier hold on the weapon. They were fitted with rapid-acquisition combat sights and tactical lights, they were weapons meant to be handled by those skilled in such. The weapons were also as reliable and delicate as a blacksmith’s hammer, a key point when their Captain had decided on purchasing them for the ship’s armory. They’d been expensive, but one got what one paid for and Sin wasn’t the type of man to trust lives to cheap tools or weapons.
“Y’know Sin, all this weirdness we’ve stumbled into, makes you wonder what else is out there in the universe.” Selinaehra commented into her comms.
“Tt does. I’ve been trying not to ponder that too deeply, but the farther humanity pushes out, I have to wonder; ‘How much more of this kind of thing are we going to be dealing with?’. It‘s proven now that we‘re not the first one‘s out here, so the question is: ‘what kind and how many ‘leftovers‘ will Humanity stumble over in the centuries to come?’.” Her husband replied.
“Humanity always wanted proof of extraterrestrial life, well now they’ve got it. How’s things going autopsy-wise?” She asked, stepping around a twisted, black rock as big as herself and keeping pace with Declan.
“Cracked the suit, and no surprises. One human female, approximately twenty-something of age, showing all the physical signs of extreme starvation, dehydration and death from carbon-dioxide poisoning. The scrubbers in her suit were completely worn out, so was the waste-water reclamation unit. She had brought some survival ration bars, and we’re guessing from the wrapper and crumbs we found in her suit that she’d open the wrap, hold her breath, unlock and slide her faceplate up, put it in her mouth and close the faceplate to eat it hands-free. Determined young woman, I have to say.”
“No question.” Declan commented, his tone that of a man impressed by the qualities of another. The report reminding him of the situation and that the woman had been so terrified she’d fled into the wastes of this world as far as she could get from her ship. He also considered that her food bars would have been frozen solid as the average temperature on the planetoid was cold enough to freeze CO2 into crystals, holding them in her mouth would have been like holding onto a piece of dry-ice for a short while until they’d warmed up.
‘Determined’ was an extreme understatement, he felt.
As they walked across the hard, eons-cold basalt, Selinaehra found herself starting to somewhat like the dark, storm-tossed worldlet. She was starting to find a kind of beauty in the hard, dark stone of the terrain and the wind-sculpted, twisted rock formations. She supposed it had something to do with the extremely adaptable nature of the Chimeran mind, but didn’t question it overmuch. While engaging in the idle speculation, her eyes never ceased scanning the terrain, her attention never drifted from staying alert and ready to handle the dangers that could come from another possible survivor. She was a Chimeran Artemis, quite literally a born killer, and if any survivors presented themselves as a threat to herself or Declan they would learn extremely quickly that such was a swiftly fatal course of action.
Arriving at the wildcatter ship, they approached the self-deploying inspection scaffold that had been set up by drones earlier which afforded them ladder-access to the ship’s ventral personnel airlock. After a short climb to the platform atop it, they entered the ship through the open outer and inner doors by way of another shorter ladder.
Inside the airlock’s lightless EVA prep-room vestibule, they surveyed around them with suit lights and drew their weapons, selecting three-shot burst and switched on the gun-mounted tactical lights. It was well within the realms of possibility that another suit-wearing survivor was hidden deep in the ship’s maintenance crawlspaces, coming out to forage supplies or remaining hidden with a large stockpile.
The evidence of weapons-fire and improvised explosives was evident almost everywhere aboard the wildcatter as the drone investigations had shown, so any survivors were to be presumed hostile until they proved otherwise.
“We’re aboard and starting the search. Comms are open, but in towards the core of the ship, I can’t say if you’re going to receive us as the ship’s comms are down and cannot relay our signals. The prep-area we’re in looks like someone set off a bunch of grenades in here, heavy damage is visible everywhere. The suit and equipment lockers are blown all to hell, it‘ll be tough doing a suit-count with this mess. There‘s some serious scorching damage on the floor and walls from what might have been thermite charges, but no contact-melting spots so I don‘t know what to make of it.” Selinaehra informed the rest of their crew as Declan checked out the two passageways leading out into the ship from the vestibule they stood in, the man‘s suit lights and weapon’s tactical light showing nothing but grubby, weapons-fire scarred walls down both directions with more of the same scorching on walls, the floor as well as ceiling as they’d seen in the prep-area.

“Understood. If you’re out of contact for longer than fifteen minutes, we’ll be on our way to find you.” Sin told them in a no-nonsense tone.
“Copy and acknowledged. I shoulda brought the damned relays after all. If there‘s a drone not doing anything, have it set them up.” Selinaehra said, moving up alongside and behind Declan. He’d cover the front, she’d cover the rear.

In the hut-like iso-tent a short distance from the ship, the Captain and Doctor finished scanning the emaciated, semi-mummified corpse of the ill-fated young woman named ‘Rosalie’ from the wildcatter vessel. They worked in full suits, but with high-dexterity gloves instead of the standard suit gauntlets, the interior of the iso-tent was colder than a refrigerator but still above freezing, and filled with a pure nitrogen atmosphere.
Smythe looked at the detailed three-dimensional combiscan-generated model of the corpse on a high-resolution display, and found nothing unusual in the physiognomy. There were no injuries that were unusual, and what was found of injuries were long-healed ones; signs of dental surgery, also to remove her appendix years ago, and evidence of a simple fracture in her right leg he could tell was from early adolescence. The blood and lymph fluid samples showed nothing unusual, and neither had the assorted tissue biopsies that included those of brain and spinal cord tissues.
Smythe straightened up from peering through the eyepieces of a multi-mode miscroscope, started turning assorted pieces of equipment off as they were no longer required. “Captain, I would state professionally that this case is closed. We might never know why she fled the ship, but her death wasn’t caused by anything extraordinary.” He told Sin, continuing to go about shutting down the equipment in the iso-tent.
“At least we know that much, and it‘s a bit of a relief,” Sin said, drawing a sheet over the corpse. “We’ll bury her when Declan and Selina are back, it should be as full a crew service as we can manage.” He concluded with.
Smythe nodded in agreement. Life on the frontier hardened people he knew, but in ways it also made them more respectful of the facts of life, and death.

Selinaehra and Declan traded places as they got deeper towards the core areas of the ship, where it started becoming more maintenance crawlspaces and accessways than normal crew passages. Selina took lead as she was more slender framed, lithe and thus better able to combat any possibly psychotic surprises they might happen across in the confined space. It was darker than interstellar space this far inside the wildcatter with only a few scattered LEDs ro supply light if they hadn’t brought their own powerful illumination. With the lights, if looked and felt like being inside a tomb or a mausoleum, with the earlier corridors and crawlspaces they were in at present feeling more closed-in than they actually were.
Here and there as they made their way deeper inside the ship they began to notice deposits of some strange kind of hardened plastic-like patches, dark green with brownish hues, like some kind of unknown epoxy that seemed to have been spilled or leaked from some unknown and not readily-apparent source. They were both long-acquainted and very experienced with the myriad forms of adhesives, plastics and related chemical materials of human manufacture. This material was unknown, and even the smallest patches had strange surface impressions, as if molded in some dark and disturbingly artistic gesture. As they went deeper they were seeing more of it, often in larger patches and deposits.
They found their way almost into a maintenance chamber, a junction for assorted inter-related systems where critical components and connected subsystems could be worked on with relative ease. They stopped in shocked surprise, their minds working to comprehend what they’d found.
“Manticore, we’re in the core junction maintenance chamber. We’ve found…I don’t know what we’ve found. Are you getting any camera feed?” Selinaehra said into the comms.
“Copy. Negative on camera feeds, but we’re getting good signal on voice even from in there. You in trouble?” Sharie’s concerned voice told them over comms.
Declan and Selinaehra moved cautiously out of the crawlspace and into the small chamber to where they could stand up properly, weapons at the ready as they surveyed the entire chamber with their suit and weapon lights whilst standing back-to-back.
“No trouble yet, but stand-by.” Declan said tersely into the comms.
The same epoxy-like material they’d found in small patches along their way was the dominating feature inside the chamber, even more so than the machinery it encrusted. It was sculpted in oddly disturbing quasi-organic forms that seemed also somehow bizarrely ‘mechanical’, and strongly suggested a nest or a lair. There was worse to be found…
A human body, an asian male, partially mummified from long exposure to the native atmosphere. The luckless man’s chest looked to have erupted violently from within, the rib bones bent and broken outward. The body was partially enveloped in the hard epoxy-plastic substance except for thorax and head, the dead man’s face still showing his last moments of life in a rictus of agony, mouth agape and eyes squeezed tightly closed.
Directly below the corpse, on the floor, something that resembled an emaciated-looking over-sized hand with too many extremely-long fingers and a whip-like tail. It was motionless, laying in a semi-crumpled repose, it’s finger-like legs clutched in towards it’s underside.
Closely beside the long-dead man was a large-ish and distinctly organic-appearing object. It was a coarsely-leathery, dark greyish-green ovoid-shaped container of some kind that stood something approximate to around hip-height on a man. It too was secured in the unknown plastic-like material as well except for it’s top, which was composed of four triangular flaps, open and exposing an empty interior.
Chimeran and Human glanced at each other and turned respectively to where they both recalled seeing something very similar only seconds ago in their initial visual sweep of the chamber.
Another ovoid, this one was the same as the other but still sealed with the four top flaps tightly closed, also securely cocooned except for the top. As they watched, raised bumps started rapidly forming all across the top and partway down the ovoid’s sides. Both felt a sudden chill down their backs when their sharp eyes noticed droplets of watery-viscous liquid running up it‘s sides…and when reaching the peak of the sealed top, they began dripping upward. As that occurred, the body of the ovoid slowly started to become translucent, then quickly became transparent in the span of a few seconds with a quality like pebble-textured glass visible through the thin filmy cocoon of the epoxy-like material that was also encrusting much of the chamber‘s walls, floor and ceiling. Within the ovoidal pod, starting to move with a spasmodic quality, was another hand-shaped creature. The four roughly-triangular flaps at the top of the ovoid opening smoothly despite the intense cold surrounding it....

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Ati

MemberPraetorianApr-25-2017 3:48 PM

Lines between Rick and S.M:

'You must be speaking for yourself.  Because 99% of the time you post negative one liners that don't contribute to anything. Kind of like Mr. Inquisitor Fifi' -- by Rick

'Don't pretend you're capable of recognising a positive contribution.' -- by S.M

Wow!

Ati

MemberPraetorianApr-25-2017 3:53 PM

'S.M, Really?  ok...I'm drawing the line here on the never ending right handed insults/left handed compliments and the lack of respect.  This is the only warning I'm giving. Contribute positively or find another forum.' -- by Rick

WOW!

Ati

MemberPraetorianApr-25-2017 3:55 PM

Image added by Blackwinter-witch:

WWWWOOOOOOWWWWW!

That is a monster! :)

Ati

MemberPraetorianApr-25-2017 4:00 PM

Blackwinter-witch, thanks for the excerpt!

Your Alien - Manticore lines would like to jump into a best-seller!

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-25-2017 4:08 PM

 Ati

Thanks for stopping by and posting! :)

S.M, well, there are worse trolls out there, but he acts like a Critic when he's just being unhelpful and nasty as he only ever hands out negativity, never a positive comment.
I can take criticism, but if folks are going to act like professional Critics, then I insist they perform Critiques as such.

Yeah, Canadian Lynxes, they get pretty big!! In domestic settings they can reach 60 Lbs from better diet and such.
The one in the pic is, as I mentioned, tranquilized for relocation and is unharmed.
I looked up the pic using image search and found the story behind it.
So, Manticore has a Ship's Cat, and one that's quite distinct from Jonesie in ALIEN.
Also, Manticore's cat gets more 'screen time'. :)

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Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-25-2017 4:12 PM

 Ati

Thank-you for the compliments!!! I really appreciate them!! I'm glad you like my efforts, and your statements help me keep my technique on-track. :)

Bestseller, well, perhaps one of my Original works will be, as this is a work done in a universe that belongs to FOX. BUT I really appreciate you thinking I have a chance at such someday!! :D

 

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Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-27-2017 5:22 AM

Some visuals/pics that helped (a lot) to inspire ALIEN: Manticore. I'm NOT any kind of artist, so I draw from what I can.
I hope you enjoy this informal 'tour' of Manticore, as best I can manage one. :)

Manticore was based off both the Torrens and the Nostromo. She tends to look more like the Torrens, but if you add in the descriptives I've edited in, the two ships would be dead-easy to tell apart at a glance.
Manticore is a hybridized version of elements of design I picked and chose from, as-seen in the following pics, as well as keeping elements of the Nostromo/Stock M-Class CM-88 as well as Concept art from ALIEN.
The ship is one where the crew spends a considerable amount of time awake and working, also as she is privately-owned, her appointments and assorted areas are roomier and more accomodating to people so as to be more comfortable for her crew.
Case in point, the Bridge. MUCH larger than a stock CM-88 M-Class bridge. The Left side as seen below is duplicated in-kind on the right (starboard) side of the bridge, and yes there are valid reasons for such, like direct-vision supervising of deep-space salvage operations, etc..

 

The shuttles/smallcraft/dropships...whatever you want to call them, the ship has these two.
Both are armed, but only one is genuinely meant for combat while the other is a super-duty model meant for hard use in the roughest conditions and carries a sizeable cargo capacity.
I state and affirm full appropriate credit to the respective creators, and if not for their work, I'd have been stuck, but these works of their's lended a lot of helpful inspiration. These served as the 'Base' for me to build my own interpretations from.

 

Drake Heavy-Lift Utility Combat Shuttle-Gunship. Basically, the much bigger, vastly Badder 'Grandfather' of the Dropship in ALIENS.

 

Megalodon Heavy-Lift Utility Cargo/Freight Shuttle. I describe it being slightly tougher than anything with the name 'Tonka' stamped on it.

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I.Raptus

ModeratorPraetorianApr-30-2017 8:32 PM

Question for you Blackwinter Witch in regards to characters.

What is your process for developing your characters? Do you have detailed notes on each, with descriptions, traits, backgrounds etc? Do you have a rule book for them or use "morale alignments" guides etc? Or do you just wing it and flesh it out in editing?

 

 

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-30-2017 8:52 PM

IRaptus

Character Development for me takes various forms. Sometimes (rarely) a character will just pop up in my head as a gift from the Muse. Mainly though, I start with a rough idea of 'type of individual' then start developing and building, after I've written some parts/scenes with them, so I get a feel of the character. So, then it's kind of a self-generating feedback loop where it's winging-it and editing in reinforcement substance as the character develops...which also means building their profile and notes as I go.

Yeah, sounds pretty scattered, and it is, but that's how my brain works. :D

I do have files on each yes, quite detailed really, modelled after real-world Personnel dossiers. The backgrounds for me are vital, as a person's background is where they are formed and dictates much of how they interact with people and the universe around them.

EG: Manticore's pilot; Doverson King, is a younger man, who graduated very high in his flight school. He planned a career in flying big Corporate transports and such, maybe someday working up to Helm of a passenger liner.
THEN, one trip, someone screwed up majorly, and King saved the situation and the ship...BUT, the idjit who screwed up was some higher-up dude's son...so, a scapegoat was needed, and King got Blacklisted as well as fired.
Which is how he ended up getting hired on to pilot Manticore.

 

 

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dk

MemberTrilobiteApr-30-2017 9:24 PM

BWW and IRaptus- I have very little writing experience. I wonder if you do a bit like I do? I close my eyes, imagine the characters and setting and have a mental conversation before writing or typing out. Is that even close to how either of you approach writing? When doing this, others around me think I am napping.

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-30-2017 9:46 PM

dk

Yeppers, except I walk around the house, talking to myself, sorta unconsciously acting-out the dialogue and inflections, tones.

I am SO lucky that hubby understands it's just how I work. :)
The kittiehz though at times look at me as if I've lost my mind. :D

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dk

MemberTrilobiteApr-30-2017 9:51 PM

You might like dogs- they love when you walk around and talk nonsensically! They think it is about them!

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-30-2017 10:00 PM

Achilles, our dog, he's like that. :D I suspect he also thinks it's somehow related to treats, snacks, food. :D

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dk

MemberTrilobiteApr-30-2017 10:31 PM

Indeed, as awesome as dogs are, there is always the treat angle! My small dog loves when I just babble silly baby talk! He does not really like when I hook up the guitar and amp though. Oddly, he is ok lying by the speakers playing CDs! I like not being able to quite figuring him out.

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianApr-30-2017 10:54 PM

dk

AWWWW, give him some ear rubs from me <3 <3

Cats, dogs, both their Ways that will always remain a mystery to us 2-legged types. :)

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dk

MemberTrilobiteApr-30-2017 11:12 PM

Indeed. I think the dog perceives a threat somehow when actually playing music- he even hates the vacuum cleaner. But he will lay down and be ok with Slayer and Exodus blasting away!

I.Raptus

ModeratorPraetorianMay-01-2017 2:25 AM

Thank you kindly BWW and dk, most appreciated!!! Was just curious how other people approached it. 

I do a basic work-up of physical, personality, backgrounds and moral traits. Then add quirks, conversational styles, habits etc as i go and add them to their notes. I like to base my characters around a loose moral alignment (D&D) style and make a point to have their alignment rules tested thoroughly throughout the story, cant have everything go their way ;-).

You guys dont use that? It can be a trap if used to rigidly, but in terms of defining a characters general behaviour i mind it helps.   

dk

MemberTrilobiteMay-01-2017 2:29 AM

I don't write enough to have a system like that but can see how it could keep the writer on track for character consistency.

I.Raptus

ModeratorPraetorianMay-01-2017 2:47 AM

My notes are pretty basic dk. Drinks too much coffee, non-confrontational, blindly religious, poor hygiene etc. Assign them a moral alignment  then add some rules for that personality to stick too.                

Bww's points about a backstory is great though. Would give such a platform to work from!!!

I'd be interested to see if @Something Real uses moral alignments being another RPG player. I played way too much Baldur's Gate II back in the day and the habits stuck from that lol.

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianMay-01-2017 2:56 AM

dk

Dogs can be funny that way, and well, being threatened by Vha'Khuum; The Screaming Devourer...that's just common sense. :)

IRaptus

Yw :) You have a good way of doing such, I must say!! Very ordered, I envy that!
In terms of Morals and such, I work from what feels appropriate to the character. They always live in shades of grey, as do we all, some lighter grey, some MUCH darker.

I do hope Somethingreal comes back post Opening Day, I like that person and like you would like to know how they go about such works.

APPENDUM: I do now and then write shortstories to flesh out and develop a character so that it's a Focussed development, and also helps me detail their backstory.

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I.Raptus

ModeratorPraetorianMay-01-2017 3:31 AM

TY Blackwinter Witch. Yeah I can be a little too rigid and ordered though. eg. My wife laughs at me because i cook using timers lol......

Yeah the moral alignment is good, but you need to appreciate the shades of grey in everyone....that and people can change through experience.

That being said I've only ever used the alignment model in fantasy settings. This is the first time Ive rolled it out into a dark satirical sci-fi setting where alot of character share a similar disposition....the rogue class (Lawful Neutral). It is a big new challenge.

 

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianMay-01-2017 3:46 AM

IRaptus

Well, as for cooking, hubby and I both use timers, except when BBQing or firepit cooking, as it's a nice way to just chill and make sure nothing gets burnt. :) Handy also when trying to stay on-track with basting turkeys asnd such also. ;)

The alignment model-approach is a great idea for a Baseline-Standard for any character, and you sound as though that's how you use it, as a baseline, but with much allowance for variance and such due to the universe and situations.

Yeah, breaking new ground is always tough, but fun. I've recently just started playing with Fantasy settings, which is about as far from my forte` as you can get!! It's NOT easy, as you said about breaking new ground, but I suspect you'll enjoy the challenge as I am. :)

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Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianMay-03-2017 3:02 AM

As some of you know, I'm attempting an 'interactive' concept for ALIEN: Manticore as it'll be released in PDF format thus allowing Links to be used.

The idea is to have a link at some (hopefully all) chapters with a piece of music that suits the mood/tone/feel...if I can find enough pieces for all the chapters.

As a sample-idea, this is the music piece from the PROMETHEUS soundtrack I am re-purposing for the scene where Manticore is introduced in Chapter one.

I'd like to hear your thoughts and opinions on this experiment, good or bad.

**********EXAMPLE EXCERPT*********

ONE

 Manticore at Work

Manticore held station in the vicinity of a salvage site in the depths of the void between star systems, her powerful pearl-like strings of ventral-mounted floodlights and four stern-mounted variable spotlights lighting things up clearly below and somewhat ahead of the ship as spacesuited figures moved slowly along the wreck, careful of loose debris despite the work-armor they wore over their suits. A contingent of drones from various sizes, forms and abilities swarmed around the wreck, attending their various jobs with tireless mechanical industriousness.
“Okay, we’re clear. Whenever you’re ready, Doc.” Came a cute-sounding, casual-but-business-like voice over the comms. The voice belonged to Sharie Valka, Engineer and Mechanic of the ship that held position above the wreck they were reducing.
“Copy that. I have your suit beacons locked out. Mother-henning a tad, please lower your flash-visors.” Came another voice over the comms. elegantly and classicly British, educated, articulately-masculine.
“Copy that, and check-positive on visors.” Came Sharie’s voice after a thumbs-up from Declan regarding his own polarized visor.
Aboard the ship, on the bridge, Dr. Alistair Smythe sat at a secondary console that served no genuinely dedicated function but could take-over from any other more specialized console or be configured to handle tasks the primaries were unsuitable for. At present, it was set up to control the equipment built into the ship that was mainly used for salvage operations, specifically Manticore’s utility lasers as well as launched-cable grapplers and the impressively-powerful tractor beam units.
The suit beacons of his crewmates outside had been flagged in the laser-control system, and they would not fire if doing so would endanger someone. The drones were all flagged as well, they were expensive to replace.
As both crewmates were well clear of the area he was precisely targeting and plotting the cut for, there were no problems. Their visors were down, so secondary-flashing off the hull alloys and ceramic composites as the laser did it’s work cutting through thick ship hull and internal framing wouldn’t blind them. With a surgeon’s practiced expertise, he completed plotting out the ‘surgery’, to ensure one clean cut and tapped the ‘Execute’ key.

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Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianMay-07-2017 1:02 AM

ALIEN: Manticore - Current Word Count; 55266.

In case any of you are wondering why this story is taking so long, well, it is Novella/Novel length, and as I have stated I am building-up a section of it that to me felt 'weak' and under-developed.

So, I am sorry for keeping you all waiting, but this is a pretty large piece of work that is about to get even larger. However, I think and hope you will find it worth the wait.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

PhoenixFire

MemberOvomorphMay-07-2017 8:21 AM

Boring, shows no real creativity.

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