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To better understand Oram's curiosity

To better understand Oram's curiosity

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XenomorphMember1305 XPOct-25-2017 2:17 PM

They say the corpse flower smells like rotting flesh but that does not stop some people to take a sniff at it. 

Now imagine David growing his own corpse flowers in the hydroponic garden and hiding the facehuggers inside for the colonists to enjoy more than the stink.

Then the critics will say "what a poor script", smart people make dumb decisions. In fact this is true, smart people make dumb decisions every day in real life. Some of them out of morbid curiosity.

"That is a strange kind of flower. It smells so awful, can you feel it? Come closer. Look, something is moving inside... Where, where? Sh..."

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

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PraetorianModerator2414 XPOct-25-2017 2:56 PM

I'm a pretty brightly coloured frog, lick me......I dare you ;-)


Nature has a way of alluring prey to do stupid things....

Dark Nebula

XenomorphStaff1206 XPOct-25-2017 3:00 PM

I thought he did it for scientific purposes, like Kane.

Like were they supposed to know what's inside the ovomorph?

“What matters is what appears in your soul, not what your eyes see and what you can name.”- Zdzisław Beksiński

Lawrence of Arabia

ChestbursterMember936 XPOct-25-2017 3:10 PM

Exactly. That's what the Ovomorph was to Oram, a mesmerizing new organism he has never seen before. You could tell on his face that he was quite curious about it, to which I don't blame because if I never saw one before I would sit there and stare in it too. People in general are prone to curiosity more often than not even if the outcome might be bad, no matter how smart.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."


XenomorphMember1305 XPOct-25-2017 3:38 PM

I can almost hear David thinking: "The trick, Oram, is not minding that it hurts."

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"


TrilobiteMember8212 XPOct-25-2017 3:46 PM

It was easy to criticize Oram for being stupid but as someone pointed out on a different thread, he was a man of faith and maybe that he thought he had protection because of it somehow. Also, it was new to him and he had no reason to mistrust David (except for shooting that neomorph a couple minutes earlier that David lost his sh%t over).

Lawrence of Arabia

ChestbursterMember936 XPOct-25-2017 4:27 PM


Deliver me from my enemies, O God; be my fortress against those who are attacking me. Psalm 59:1

Oram was very dogmatic in his views so it definitely played a part as it did for all of his decisions throughout the film. His faith was broken when his wife died but, before he confronted David, Daniels renewed his faith both religiously and as a leader.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."


PraetorianMember3378 XPOct-25-2017 6:54 PM

An awesome flower, a beautiful blue frog, and a great Kane poster. :) 


TrilobiteMember8212 XPOct-25-2017 7:52 PM

On second thought, good riddance that Oram died. It was a good demonstration that faith is not fact. Placing trust in faith over facts proved fatal. Good. "That flower smells like a rotting carcass- something the primitive part of my brain tells me to stay away from. No, I have to examine this rotting smell. Oh yes, this is sti-" 

I liked Oram on a level because he seemed to really care, but he became careless and should have listened to Daniels.


FacehuggerMember140 XPOct-26-2017 6:31 AM

I don't think his faith played any part in him checking out the Ovomorph.  When you think about it, if you're already in a room with another person and the eggs, whose first thought would be that something is going to jump out super fast and latch onto your face?  These characters haven't seen the other Alien movies, and I doubt anyone would think about David not being attacked because he's machine.  No creatures we encounter on earth would differentiate between a real person and a machine that looks, moves, and sounds exactly like a real person.


FacehuggerMember457 XPOct-27-2017 2:37 AM

If memory serves, he was Head of Life Sciences on the Covenant. He would naturally be extremely fascinated by the egg. Having not seen the 1979 movie, as drucea says, curiosity just got the better of him. Imagine if Neil Armstrong had stepped off the ladder and said "That's one small step for a man, one giant... WHAT THE **** IS THAT THING BITING MY ANKLE!"


XenomorphMember1305 XPOct-31-2017 5:47 AM

Here comes the chicken facehugger, an early Giger concept.

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"


PraetorianMember3422 XPOct-31-2017 6:39 AM

Stellar excellent point daliens. We all have done stupid things and why would we stop in the future on another planet. I still wouldn't look in the egg though.

I would have a representative do it for me or at least use one of those small mirrors to see.
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