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Timmy the ultramorph

ChestbursterMember559 XPAug-26-2017 10:38 AM

we all know that eventually david will die. he is a very good charector so I feel that his death should be somewhat poetic.

I am hoping that he creates the perfect organism and he is destroyed by his own creation. just like the engineers and hopully the humans that created him. I was thinking that an ultramorph will be born and as he aproaches it like the baby protomorph as a father, it will lash out and rip him into pieces. a

 

another possible death for me would be that he sacrifices himself in order to create the perfect organism. mabye he has a facehugger latch onto him to get the biomachanical look of the original, or uses so much of his DNA in his tests that he dies.

I even heard one theory that he is the space jockey that the crew of the nostromo finds on LV 426.

do you have any thoughts on how he should die?

food ain't that bad! - Parker

39 Responses to how should david die?

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPAug-26-2017 10:46 AM

I agree about being destroyed by his creation. I would add that he both understands this irony and fears dying just before he checks out.

sherris

ChestbursterMember516 XPAug-26-2017 10:52 AM

dp sorry

Take This.... This is the blood of our lord

sherris

ChestbursterMember516 XPAug-26-2017 10:52 AM

SJ is a possibility. Given the fact that those eggs are bio-mech 1979 Alien. So the eggs have not yet arrived on LV426.

It is not my dream scenario but better than they lose continuity and put another race in the seat or Engineer without them prior getting the eggs.

Anyways, David. i want him to die. i do not want him to be MU TH UR or Ash. I would like to see his own creation kill him. That is my most favoured too i think.

Walter still has some story in him for me. i would even have walter do it. or an engineer so long as he is dead and gone i happy.

Take This.... This is the blood of our lord

TheXenoneoprotomorph

FacehuggerMember143 XPAug-26-2017 11:16 AM

Have him killed by the son of God, the Ultramorph. 

ignorantGuy

ChestbursterMember896 XPAug-26-2017 11:32 AM

Man these ate stupid cliches. Rs should have courage to not lead these into the original and make David wipe out all life in the galaxy so that he would be alone forever. Or even better to beheaded and to spend his restvof immortality as such.

VivisectedEngineer

ChestbursterMember725 XPAug-26-2017 11:41 AM

Wow, great topic, Timmy the ultramorph! I don't have a clear answer, but this is a fun topic to contemplate!

@dk

"I agree about being destroyed by his creation. I would add that he both understands this irony and fears dying just before he checks out."

Wow, I love it!

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"Or even better to beheaded and to spend his restvof immortality as such."

Also love it! But, where should his fully conscious severed head wind up? For the rest of forever?

(I can't get behind your wiping out all life in the galaxy idea though, only because it would disrupt the series' continuity pretty badly.).

ignorantGuy

ChestbursterMember896 XPAug-26-2017 11:49 AM

Continuity is already in shambles so why not blow the whole thing up. The severed coild wind up anywhere, could the source of the original signal. I don't care well you know after what.

Cosmonaut-Copper

OvomorphMember27 XPAug-26-2017 11:49 AM

I don't want him to die but I think the engineers or maybe Walter (assumed he's still alive) want him dead. Maybe tear is head off again? I bet one of the engineers will end him.

Walter

OvomorphMember85 XPAug-26-2017 12:27 PM

I want him to be Reprogrammed and I want his old hair.

Just erase his last 10 years memories

Something Real

TrilobiteMember5639 XPAug-26-2017 12:35 PM

TIMMY THE ULTRAMORPH - David, in my opinion, should meet his end at the hands of that for which he holds the most contempt: a human. His death should be as ignoble and anticlimactic as possible - perhaps a simple bullet wound to the chest which leaves him alive just long enough to grasp that he has been slain by a member of the species he deemed beneath him. :)

Dark Nebula

XenomorphStaff1160 XPAug-26-2017 12:36 PM

If you ask me, one Engineer should give him a big bear hug that causes his head to explode.

 

I Moon Girl

ChestbursterMember611 XPAug-26-2017 12:36 PM

I want David to kill himself.  He would kill himself because he experiences something we never thought David would experience.  That would be deep regret.  I want David to feel so sorry for the things he has done to people and in the end, kills himself.  I originally thought he would allow a facehugger to kill him, but according to A:C, the Xeno strain doesn't try to alter machinist type characters.  Even the Neomorph that attached Walter did so in self-defense.  Still, an impregnating is apparently done only with biological organisms.

All that aside, I do want David to cut his own cord and shut down forever at his own willingly hand.  That, to me, is the only death I would be happy with and it would be the most unexpected and unique death in the franchise, expect when Ripley kills herself in Alien3.  Still, David could theoretically live forever and with all of his ambitions, a suicide would be quite a page turner.

Even if David doesn't die that way, it wouldn't make the movie bad, but I think I would be most satisfied if David self-terminated.  That's unless I like other suggestions that people here come up with here or I come up with another later.  Maybe the writers for Alien: Awakening got a real good death for David.  I hope so.  I would like it if David did die and didn't return in the future Alien franchise movies that will take place after Alien: Resurrection.

MonsterZero

XenomorphMember1260 XPAug-26-2017 12:38 PM

"Death..Emotion..Revenge..all human constructs" - Walter

"David's not going to feel pain or loss. There is nothing we can do to such a being" - Daniels

"Mistakes were made in early synth development, mistakes we've overcome. They won't happen again" - Bishop

 

I would make him the hero. Have him find absolution. Giving his life to save someone.

The Xeno's are the 'evil stars' of the series...The star beasts.

I.Raptus

PraetorianStaff2414 XPAug-26-2017 3:33 PM

MonsterZero thats a nice idea :)

perhaps he learns to control his lust and obsessions where he failed with Shaw, to eventually save Daniels?

Barf The Mog

FacehuggerMember146 XPAug-26-2017 5:02 PM

Timmy - A poetic death, like Roy Batty, would be highly cliche and contrived, but then again so are all of Scott's films. 

V I N E T I C U M

FacehuggerMember137 XPAug-27-2017 5:25 AM

Shaw: I need to know why they created us and then wanted to kill us. I would like to express my idea according to this question. David knows humans according to his experience, so he feels his creation as a fierce and dominant race underestimating humans. He is the shepherd of his dogs, he dominates them, I do not think his death will come from this .                                                          

 

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"

cuponator3000

ChestbursterMember838 XPAug-29-2017 8:08 AM

I do like the idea of a suicide, that would be an interesting turn! Still, I think it's either death by Xeno, Engineer, or human. I mean, depending on the story they choose for the next adventure(s), all three would make sense and should be very meaningful. 

I vote for David sacrificing himself to complete the bio-mechanical Xeno or complete some crazy experiment.

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spirit_light_speed

OvomorphMember23 XPAug-29-2017 11:48 AM

Prediction - David does in fact end up being the Space Jockey in Alien. He sacrifices himself to create the 'perfect organism' - part android... by humans outsmarting and killing the xeno, the end of AC showed us that a note is off in his symphony, and he must rectify that... we'll see the thing burst out of his chest, but instead of the infant-like creature we saw come out of Oram (with human traits)... the android DNA will make it cold, merciless and very Alien (rather like the already altered larval form that Kane birthed)... David will be shocked by this 'lack of emotion' within the creature, ultimately having to face the mirror image of what he actually is (and what his offspring emote)... and perhaps, like the myth of Prometheus, his immortality will be his downfall... eternally at the mercy of the cargo in his ship... an incubator and birthing machine for an endless alien hoard (akin to having his liver ripped out every day by the vulture)...

~The end will be an irony, and in his most 'human moment', he will send out the warning not to engage the craft... finally understanding the true meaning behind Ozymandias (something he wickedly misinterpreted in AC) - "Look upon my works, ye mighty, and despair" is not a testament to power within the poem, but in fact, one of pity within the downfall of hubris.

Captain Cold

OvomorphMember65 XPJul-31-2021 10:37 PM

He shouldn't die, but instead disappear and have a post credit scene with the weyland CEO making a message (takes place after alien 4/resurrection), then we cut to the other side with the message being sent. the camera slowly zooms out revealing david 

BigDave

DeaconMember10134 XPAug-02-2021 8:33 AM

Thanks for the Bump!

I missed this Topic ;)

I think there has to be one of TWO Conclusions to Davids Story.

1) HUBRIS: And so David is KILLED by ONE of his OWN Creations, be that the Xenomorph or another Species he Creates who Rebel/Betray him (maybe USE the Xenomorph on him).

2) Redemption: And so David will Perform a Act that will either Save Humanity (maybe from his Creations) or to Save another Creation of his.

"Prediction - David does in fact end up being the Space Jockey in Alien"

To be Fair i am drawn to this Conclusion also.... or that it would be a Creation of Davids that ENDS UP in that ChairRidley Scott had said the NEXT Installment would NOT be about the Xenomorph, it would be about A.I (RS also sees that A.I does-not have to be Purely Mechanical) and more so about WHAT KIND of a World that David would Create!

This Leads me to THINK that David would Evolve those Human Embryos into a Superior Humanoid Species... which could become his HUBRIS.  However we also cant RULE-OUT that a Synthetic will PLAY a Role in the Xenomorph, as RS has said that the Xenomorph is NOT as Mechanical Yet, it has some Evolving to go before we get to LV-426

We know the Xenomorph can lead to Genetic Memory Transfer we have seen this with Ripley 8, and so we maybe CANT RULE OUT that David would Sacrifice himself to INDEED Create the Bio-Mechanical Xenomorph and that HIS (Davids) SOUL will be Passed onto into the Xenomorphs Consciousness. He would IMMORTALIZE HIMSELF within the Xenomorph.

And so i would NOT go and Rule this out......... so David End could be from either HUBRIS, REDEMPTION or SACRIFICE (to Enable his Master Plan).

The ONLY PROBLEM we have to look at is the SPACE JOCKEY SIGNAL... this seems to be a WARNING, and a Warning ONLY to a Species who is the Same as WHO the Space Jockey will eventually be.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10134 XPAug-02-2021 8:38 AM

"but instead disappear and have a post credit scene with the weyland CEO making a message"

They could go with THAT, having David being the ONE who is Running the Company without the Humans being aware is something that i would NOT have Ruled Out.  Maybe the Destruction that we saw on Earth was because of a EVENT like the End of Modern World in the TERMINATOR Franchise.

You have Synthetics, who we have seen can become Sentient, we have it that Synthetics through their own WILL had Created the AUTONS and so with Humans you have 3 SPECIES that could be ALL Fighting for Control of the Earth that had lead to the Armageddon like Scene we saw at the END of Alien Resurrection.

And to reveal David after this as the one who has ORCHESTRATED it all could be something they could Explore... but i just DONT think we would see any Continuation of his Story or a Continuation after AR.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Thoughts_Dreams

NeomorphMember1529 XPAug-02-2021 10:31 AM

Hopefully in a way that is unexpected. To make him the creator of the Xeno and let that be his downfall is too obvious. At this point it wouldn't surprise me if that's what will happen, so they should come up with something better.

You need smart writers to make a good story, as the prequels have shown. Whatever the case may be I hope that they kill him off early in the movie. There are already two that features David a lot and Covenant made him uninteresting, so they should compensate for that. I don't want another movie about an android and his doings.

MonsterZero

XenomorphMember1260 XPAug-02-2021 4:55 PM

I would make his a hero's death.

After loathing humanity for so long.....Ultimately, He becomes their savior.

 

hox

FacehuggerMember453 XPAug-02-2021 8:16 PM

It would be nice if he could put on a bit of weight, turn a little orange, find a time machine and travel back to Earth in the year 2016 to further his ambitions. That would explain a lot.

BigDave

DeaconMember10134 XPAug-04-2021 6:42 AM

That would Explain it HOX!  I guess when you Famous and a Creator as David is then he maybe thinks the Woman would LET HIM do what ever he Pleases?

Hands! off my Jonesey

But on a Serious Note............... i HOPE we never get any Time-Travel in the Franchise but i SUSPECT that Disney would be OPEN to such a thing.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

hox

FacehuggerMember453 XPAug-04-2021 7:12 AM

@BigDave, yes I agree. Time Travel would be a terrible idea for the Alien Universe. It's the biggest laziest trope in Science Fiction. I rarely enjoy time travel movies.

Captain Cold

OvomorphMember65 XPAug-04-2021 8:32 AM

We know the Xenomorph can lead to Genetic Memory Transfer we have seen this with Ripley 8, and so we maybe CANT RULE OUT that David would Sacrifice himself to INDEED Create the Bio-Mechanical Xenomorph and that HIS (DavidsSOUL will be Passed onto into the Xenomorphs Consciousness. He would IMMORTALIZE HIMSELF within the Xenomorph.

Hmmm, that's true but i think a better way would be to make him the "King/emperor alien" Which is basically a male queen, but outside the hivemind, it hunts down humans/entities it deems to be a "threat". I think that david being that would make the most sense, as he would be outside the hivemind, and would only target certain things (ie: humans). The reason to why we don't see him could be that he simply was elsewhere

Captain Cold

OvomorphMember65 XPAug-04-2021 3:29 PM

@BigDave 

> i HOPE we never get any Time-Travel in the Franchise but i SUSPECT that Disney would be OPEN to such a thing.

Same, i am really worried about disney owning alien, since they might mess it up *cough cough* Star wars *cough cough*

BigDave

DeaconMember10134 XPAug-05-2021 6:16 AM

Well we are in for a New TV Series that *cough cough* will touch on the Xenomorph as a Ancient Threat.... but then be SET on Earth some 50 Years or more before ALIEN....

So i do FEAR that the NEXT TIME we see the Xenomorph on Screen will be something that would MESS UP the Franchise again.... but it may Please some as it seems it will REMOVE the Prequels as Canon.

However i Suspect it will UPSET the Fans as the Revealed Xenomorph would be more Organic.... and it is LIKELY we will get to the LV-426 Eggs as a Hybrid of Xenomorph/Android.....  watch this Space ;)  (well 2023)

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Thoughts_Dreams

NeomorphMember1529 XPAug-06-2021 5:08 AM

Captain cold:

Welcome to the board, it's nice to see another one here.

As for time-travel it's kind of unimaginative, it's almost like I expect that to happen. They need writers that can write an interesting story that makes sense. Star Wars 7, 8, 9 were so and so, I guess that they need writers that can do what they want so we won't get a lot of repetition.

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