Theory: Engineers seek revenge against Humanity for THEIR creation and betrayal.

I don´t know if this has been discussed but i had posted a while back my own theory towards Prometheus and the Engineers on Prometheus-Movie.com Forum and this is really the same thing as far as my gut goes

First off Ridley is a massive Android fanatic. You always see big references and debates among this in his movies and i guess in Prometheus even more so

Imagine not that humankind invented the engineers in like david 8 but that the engineers themselves invented them, like david is an invention of the humans and in their image. get the point?

why? maybe because the could ;-) or like in other movies and series, for example Stargate. They had the Asgard and they were clones cause they could not reproduce themselves otherwise anymore and slowly died out through degeneration like in real science.

So what if this is somehow tied to another. David 8 found himself superior to his creators, wo why shouldn´t the engineers feel the same to their creators and turn their backs on them as soon as they could. Must not be the right theory and anything is possible but it does mix beautifully together that there in that scene two creations from creators having a great twist to maybe be shown in Alien Covenant or not. I would be pleasantly suprised if they were artificial or at least different to the ones we see at the beginning of the movie where the sacrifice happens. Best resemblence to their difference is the looks they have. One is just plain and lean like a greek god and one is militant and bio-engineered with a suit. If now the fluid, that is an accelerant like in the Dark Horse comics and used to super enhance them is still open to debate but i guess it has multiple functions.

Imagine a race that can merge technology with bio structures and enhance them beyond our wildest dreams. That is a festival for the old HR Giger who would be so happy in seeing this happen. I guess all writers and makers involved in these stories have similar interests, theories and tendencies that are innertwined into the background and main plot of the story. Nitpicks that the more you watch the more you see

I could go on and on about different parts of the story and get deeper into the subject but i guess you guys get the picture

 PS. who is to say they have any emotions or feelings just because the human race share the same gene. There is no scientific proof if when we see aliens or other races that they have them and could be more of an animal instinct or way other triggers that rocks their tragectory and thinking patterns. Does not mean intelligent beings have to be emotional.

Best theory was they are us from the future came back for revenge or change in the space time continuum

@MJD

Hmmm.  To the OP, yeah that would be an interesting twist, but I think most evidence points towards the ancient astronaut theory, which would mean they created us, not the other way around.  Although the engineers could have certainly been created by someone else.  So I don't think they are the "gods" here, just a link in the chain, same as us.

The look on "Bob's"(!) face.  That one has me puzzled as well.  It's like this dude wakes up, does a WTF?, looks at David, with something akin to affection, then becomes angry, and starts kicking everyone's ass.  Man, that's such a smorgasbord of reactions; hard to make sense of it all.

So like wake up, orient, take in your surroundings; what's this? some humans!? One of them addresses him in his on tongue.  Say what?  Oh that's cute.  But these assholes shouldn't even be here!  Guess I'm gonna have to carry out my orders: destroy them.

From the final cut, that's what the scene looks like to me. 

As to the relationship between "Bob" and David.  That's a strange one indeed.  Kinda the epitome of a love-hate relationship!  But how would Bob have known David was an Android? Again, from the final cut, he shouldn't have any idea, well, until he tears his head off.

So to me, it was simply a matter of this dude speaking his language, and the connection that brought, until the actions of others broke the moment. 

This again brings up the point of how do we interpret these events?  Do we strictly go by what was presented to us, or do we use the other cuts/drafts/ideas, as seen from other sources.  Because you obviously have other/alternate story lines competing for our attention here.  Hard to make sense of it all!            

@Dis.

By coincidence I watched the alternative and deleted scenes this morning. I do not see any denial in choosing to the nix them on the level we are discussing, they are either about pacing or qualitative cinematic issues not about story telling but they nearly all provide very powerful answers to questions raised on this forum. I will not deal with all of them but here are a few and the final one is pertinent to this thread.

The sacrificial scene  

The sense he is the chosen one to bear this hideous death comes over more strongly that this is what engineers do, and the teardrop ship with some added seconds nonchalantly goes vertical and unceremoniously leaves "task accomplished" but the extra shots of the acolytes hideous disfiguration contrast with the DNA re organising after he decomposes. The fresh vibrant colours (absolutely no black) shout out this is a life affirming positive moment - ordained positive new life is on its way and the verdant lake and mountain finishes that notion perfectly. My guess is Ridders will use this inversely for Cov. 

Milburn and our first Alien

This is a gorgeous scene reinforced by Shaw emphasising the botanist child like joy in meeting new life which is entirely quiescent and explains the concept of naivety when the Botanist interacts with the Hammerpede (we should also bear in mind modern man had no idea of the Zeno strain at that very moment).

Fifield

It doesn't work cinematically but he is going A L I E N.

The Encounter with the Engineer 

For me this is superb and much stronger and more involving than the film cut. So much happens here that explains much more clearly what is happening.

1) Weyland has a conversation with the Engineer where David acts as interpreter and suggest he and the Engineer are both creators E= Mankind Weyland = David. The Engineers response is to check Weyland's assertion and then show him what he thinks of his creation he rips his head off  and aims to destroy all and complete his mission. He is asserting his superiority as the creator race. He is a curious about mankind's achievements and affronted at their curiosity. its very very simple they have got above themselves and he is more determined to slay them and put them in their place.

2) Shaw is once again in pain and doubles over (this maybe important next year) but asks her question his response is overwhelming and it is the same after the Juggernaut crashes to humiliate and destroy her.

Just as an aside their are two gorgeous scenes for Charlize which absolutely nail the idea as to whether she is a "……. robot".

I don't buy the time travel for any species but the engineer has an ability to sense David is a robot by touch like psychic. My first post, love this place! That green crystal has intrigued me to no end but..... it looks like the crystal fits in the upper head of that Zeno wall mural. Like it is from Lucifer or has regenerative, or alchemy powers. That oval bump in that head above the crucified xeno. Looks concave in some photos and convex in others. World of Warcraft  think has some crystal that comes out of a forehead. Idk but that crystal has some shape inside it. Originally hoped it was the xeno DNA fossil like Jurassic park. Is the Furious Gods considered canon? Because there is a "Narration of Engineer" draft on screen that explains there lack of reproduction and the giant head belongs to the Leader sent to Lv 223 to study humans and DNA mysteries.????