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Arkadine
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 11:32 AMThe first reviews from France have arrived. I will try to get translations...
http://www.reviewer.fr/breves/cinema/13441/prometheus-critiques-mitigees-apres-premiere-projection.html
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Drakeequation
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:35 PMLike I said in another thread, those expecting clear answers and the connection to Alien will be disappointed. I will be honest though, I think I will wait till reviews that make sense come out to really formulate what I should expect. I want one review that isn't vague and is actually well written to rear its head so I can have something to sink my teeth into.
Xenomorph 54
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:37 PMSeems like the reviewer of this last review that Arkadine posted is one of those critics that wants everything too simple...By what I understood, he stated that the movie's main issue was it's excessive complexity.
That's why I'm not so worry...however, he said that the critters were not nice, that something to fear...we need more details!
Have you heard of phoenix asteroids?
They glow in every color of the rainbow...they travel endlessly through space...
Drakeequation
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:38 PMSo far, it doesn't look too good for Prometheus since Lindelof may have crapped all over the story. If this guy did with Prometheus the same things he did with Lost (i.e. make the excuse that he likes things "open ended" to cover up the fact that he sucks at writing satisfying conclusions for any story arc he is presented with) then even Scott's amazing direction and the fantastic visuals may not be able to save it. Say what you want about Blade Runner's visuals, I personally thought the story was what really made it a masterpiece.
Fury 161
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:41 PMdont be worried people, be like me, be prepared for a dissapointment, then you cant lose!
Xenomorpheus
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:41 PMI was very nervous about reading anything in this post in case the reviews were going to be bad. Such a relief to see that the general consensus seems to be very positive. Do any of the reviews mention the last 8 minutes?
abordoli
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:43 PMEither they were not shown the last 8 minutes -or- as posted earlier, they simply do not get the "nods" that Riddley has put in this film.
Rubirosa
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:44 PMI love it. I really have to agree with the first and positive review for one simple reason. He was very articulate and explained exactly what was good and bad about the film, while backing it up. The second review just says that the film is good and that the actors were not used properly. That kind of explanation is not enough for me. Go with the first review people.
Drakeequation
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:44 PMI think it is somewhat silly to expect the reviewers to comment on the last eight minutes. What reviewers ever write something to the extent of, "oh and in the last ten or so minutes this happens."
Ruth
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:45 PMI've read some of those reviews and honestly I don't know what to think. Some of them are positive and some of them not, I know that everyone has its own opinion and movie taste, but still it frightens me a bit.
I've heard most french critics call A:R the best of the whole Alien franchise. Is it true? If so, then they're pretty much dumb and then maybe we've got nothing to be afraid of?
The first thing I need to do, is to start avoiding forums and similar sites. Trolls will keep coming from now and I don't want my mood to be ruined.
Drakeequation
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:46 PMBy the way, maybe no one will get the nod in the last eight minutes. Lindelof said he explained what happened at the end of Lost and what the smoke monster was but it went right over my head. Call me crazy but "a dead guy floats into the light and makes a smoke monster" is not an explanation in my book.
NungaBIZ
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:48 PMOK, where are the reviews from these reviewers on other movies already out? I put no faith in a review if the reviewer just flat out pans films I've enjoyed. Lets look up their "track record". I'm on it anyone else in?
Cypher
Co-AdminMemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:49 PMLindelof is, and always has been a hack. I want answers dammit!!
Some of us like closure sometimes! Not ALL the time, but sometimes!
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Xenomorpheus
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:50 PM@Drakeequation
Fair point, but it wouldn't be too optimistic or far fetched to think a fan-critic might mention a connection especially after most of these reviews seem to cement the fact that this can be viewed as a stand-alone movie. We'll see soon I guess!
@abordoli
Cheers for that. the comments have been coming through so thick and fast for this post that I missed the last comments where this was brought up. I actually like the idea that they are keeping the last 8 minutes secret for general release.
Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:52 PMWhat I took away most form all that reading and translating properly and processing if only for myself is this.
They all talked about Character development being so far developed when the film starts they were all confused.
They all showed me they went in their expecting something, not sure what but they clearly all had agendas to me.
Not one reviewer spoke of the films place as "entertainment" value overall but rather attacked Scott for doing this or not doing that.
Everyone of them mentioned how pretty the film is to look at.
Every one of them Said the opening was fantastic and that several other scenes scared their "depends" dirty !!!
[b]"I'm All Jacked Up On Mountain Dew and couldn't Give an Internecivus Raptus WTF any reviewer says, I'll Judge this thing On My own merits thank you very much, I have access to Muther Now !!![/b]
colonial soldier
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:53 PMI will take the reviews with a grain of salt. I doubt rotten tomatoes will have it at 100 percent positive but I do not think it will tank. I just want the movie to make a good profit to warrant it a sequel.
Remember even Alien and Blade Runner had negative reviews and look at their cult status today.
POOPMETHEUS
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 12:56 PMThe reviews seem to be mostly negative. I lost all hope for the movie being "great" after seeing the photos and trailers that have been released, but it sounds like this movie was made 'simply to be made'....
Ruth
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:00 PMI think some bad reviews are just because it is still hard for generic audiences to accept sci fi movies like this with religious themes and so on. They are still too attached to typical blockbuster movies where nothing really happens. Or maybe they still expected this to be Alien reboot and started judging when it wasn't? I know some people who saw trailers and started judging this movie because in their eyes it wasn't just like the first Alien was. So it's a mistake to expect things that surely won't happen.
NungaBIZ
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:00 PMAnd don't forget, the French think Jerry Lewis is a God.
I think BACON IS GOD...
"Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks."
John D.
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:01 PMAll I can say is, I'm utterly relieved to know that Ridley Scott is not a penguin.
:P
Spartacus
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:06 PM[quote]And don't forget, the French think Jerry Lewis is a God.
I think BACON IS GOD...
"Opinions are like assholes. Everybody's got one and everyone thinks everyone else's stinks."[/quote]
[b]AMEN NungaBIZ[/b]
Rubirosa
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:07 PMHey have A little faith CharliedontSurf. You will be your own true critique when you watch the film yourself. In my personal opinion, I think we have a winner here.
Arkadine
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:10 PM@Spartacus, would u be so kind translate this for us?
"Heureusement pour le spectateur, Ridley Scott n’est pas un manchot".
I assume "Manchot" is not a "penguin"
Chris
AdminEngineerMay-28-2012 1:11 PMI have to hold my review for June 8th, because of where I live. But I will be sure to let you guys know what I thought of it with a reactions thread. One that doesn't contain any spoilers - just a glimpse of what I thought of it. The full review will be PACKED with in depth detail and spoilers galore!
;) So keep an eye out for that. If you have Twitter, be sure to follow us [url=https://twitter.com/Prometheus_6812]@Prometheus_6812[/url] as I will be reporting all day this Thursday and following the screening that night.
But these reviews do look promising! Very eager to see this after 3 years of anticipation!
Hyped for: Alien: Romulus | Badlands (Predator 6) | Cloverfield 4
colonial soldier
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:16 PMI knew the movie score was going to be subpar!! Jerry Goldsmith knew how to make your bones chill with his Alien, Outland, Omen scores. His scores made movies much better and when I saw a clip in a featurette; the score sucked in my opinion. Should of used someone that had experience of scoring films in that genre.
NungaBIZ
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:19 PMAlso, reviewers "affiliated with another studio" will pan movies from any other studios. In that way they are like lobbyists in Congress here in the States. They will only support what makes them money.
Look at reviews from reviewers that agree with your views on films historically in line with your own. Anyone ever heard of these "reviewers" before? I seen reviews of TMNT that claim its the best film series ever made for god's sake.
Look for reviews from press you know and align with in the past or don't read reviews at all and make your own mind up.
There is only one thing in life everyone agrees with, that BACON is Good.
Arkadine
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:23 PM@BugHunter That sounds awesome... I will post my own review as well... Actually I reviewed "1492 Conquest Of Paradise", "Blade Runner Director's Cut" and "G.I. Jane" for the written press when they first came out... I am not working for any media outlet right now, and this will be my first Ridley Scott movie review in quite a long time.
BotswanaFan
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:24 PM@colonial soldier - do you have the OST? I like it, personally. Very restrained and disturbing, with nice melodic nods to the Alien score.
More and more reviews are criticizing the fact that the film doesn't seem to flow - it's just a confusing sequence of unrelated scenes with a rush to a climax. But again, I am more interested in key performances, and that Ellen clip blew me away. Theron is astonishing in that clip and I hope it's not true that she is underused.
colonial soldier
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2012 1:29 PM@botswanaFan - Negative. I just saw the movie again the other day with some soldiers here in Afghanistan. One of our sergeants brought a proxima with him and we hooked up some nice speakers to the laptop and the sound was awesome.
But here is a link that has some tidbits from the film.
http://www.allmusic.com/album/outland-capricorn-one-original-soundtrack-r196563
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