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I hope Ridley is still a team player

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Arkadine

MemberOvomorphMay-26-2012 7:45 PM
I have a lot of respect for Ridley Scott, I believe he has had great taste in selecting some of the stories he made into movies, and his visual style is out of this world. However, I also believe that the quality of his movies rely a lot on the talents of his artistic team. Think about what Dan O'Bannon, H.R. Geiger and Carlo Rambaldi meant to Alien, or the imprint left by the work of Douglas Trumbull, Syd Mead, Lawrence G. Paul & David Snyder and Jordan Cronnenweth on Blade Runner. Back in the day Scott was working on one project at a time; they were really a work of passion. These days, defining himself as being a businessman as much as he is a director, he manages about 6 projects at a time, with a Blade Runner sequel among them (gulp) If the technical aspects of his later output has become more generic than groundbreaking lately, I think it is because of the frequent collaborations with people like Marc Streitenfeld in the music department and Arthur Max in art direction. I am not saying they are bad professionals, but I do not perceive them as brilliant either. Now, my major fear about Prometheus is the way the project was patched together. There was not a pre-existent screenplay that wowed Ridley making him say: "this is the story I was waiting for so I can return to the genre that jump started my career." It was more like "I have these loose ends I want to make into some sort of prequel or sidekick to Alien." And he recruited these two guys who are basically two fanboys who did nothing but trying to please Ridley. In an interview for the show "On The Verge" Lindeloff said something very revealing and very smart as well: "if the movie is a success it's all because of Ridley Scott and if the movie is not a success is because I was unable to execute his vision successfully" A nice way of flattering his idol and washing his hands at the same time. He also expressed that he was "proud of his lack of authorship" on the script an even compared his work with playing mad libs with Ridley. For the sake of Prometheus, I really hope that the vision Lindeloff talks about is relevant enough and exciting enough to make Prometheus more than a summer money maker. I hope the talent around him was up to the challenge, and that the interplay between director and collaborators was a balanced one. If not, we might headed to unveil the underwhelming product of a genius trapped in his own ivory tower.
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Famished

MemberOvomorphMay-27-2012 12:45 AM
And since nobody has mentioned it, the score is already out there, and Streitenfeld, despite all his critics, managed to create a score with exciting contrasts between horror and wonder (including fan favorite call-backs, all while making it his own). There aren't pictures with the sound just yet, but all indications are that the man delivered. That's entirely subjective, but I believe it to be true. No telling what someone like Marco Beltrami might have done, but it would certainly appear that Ridley Scott still made a pretty good decision in trusting his frequent collaborator. And, yeah, the only vibe that I have ever gotten from anyone involved with this film, is nothing but extreme confidence in what they have. Fox execs probably pissed there pants upon there early screenings.

Skipo

MemberOvomorphMay-27-2012 1:46 AM
@Famished Thanks to mentioned about the score. I'm an audio designer and composer. And the score is essential. A few months ago, I discussed regarding Streitenfeld, personally not my favorite, however, Marc, has worked with Sir Ridley for many years and projects, that I'm sure he is going to deliver great art. I know the score is already out there...but I'm waiting for the whole thing all-together. (Wait...wait...wait...put that credit card away...it's hard..hehe)

Famished

MemberOvomorphMay-27-2012 2:27 AM
I think it takes some repeat listens to appreciate, and just like Goldsmith's work on Alien, may not charge up anyone interested in a purely melodic score. Those elements are surely there, but the nature of this film needs much more than that. One cue will be quite beautiful, and the next will be very much inspired by sound designers like François Eudes Chanfrault. The sound agenda requires a fairly unique balance--no easy task. I think Streitenfeld found a way. Can't wait to hear it in the film.

The High Priest

MemberOvomorphMay-27-2012 3:27 AM
In defence of Lindeloff and Sphaits and Ridley, it seams to me like the creative process was very collaborative and creative. It wasnt a bunch of talentless Fox suits rushing to put a story together, this was talented, creative individuals with a strong passion for the subject matter.....Have some faith and comfort in the above point!

Arkadine

MemberOvomorphMay-27-2012 9:54 AM
@ Deckard_B26354 Well, I never thought of any writers for a project like this, but now that you ask, maybe Jonathan and christopher Nolan (can you imagine the Nolans teaming up with Ridlet Scott?), or Duncan Jones (Moon, Source Code)

Skipo

MemberOvomorphJun-03-2012 5:56 PM
@Famished Thanks for your words and thoughts on the sound design and score! Agree 100%. I don't want to say something that "the regular audience" are not intrested or pay attention to the general sound design or score, but my point is that it's a very important part of a complete experience of a movie. Thanks again.
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