RickK
MemberOvomorphMay-02-2012 2:12 PMI kinda dismissed this idea of reading dreams, until I got out the old Alien novel by Alan Dean Foster to read, and the first few pages included this very idea - actually it suggested that there were "professional dreamers" that were paid to allow people to watch their dreams for entertainment. So evidently this idea has been something Ridley's had for a while now.
At the very least it would eliminate the need for a traditional "flashback" scene in a pretty unique way.
Grindolf
MemberOvomorphMay-02-2012 6:23 PM
Embryos dream of electric sheep
Grindolf
MemberOvomorphMay-02-2012 6:52 PM
Perhaps David is pregnant and Shaw sees this in her dreams
Indy John
MemberOvomorphJul-15-2012 7:18 AM "...immediate degaussing .."
I have not heard that term for years,, Time to take in my CRT to have thius done..
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life
Indy John
MemberOvomorphJul-15-2012 7:39 AM"....I like the idea of him
stalking the ship while the rest of the crew spend years in hypersleep -
like a sort of sentinel - very eerie. ...."
Certainly Shaw wass not the only crew member's dreams that David tapped into..
David would not do this on his own..
IN a later post on this thread there is mention of David 'downloading into Shaw's dreams,,planting information...Maybe the VR is a two way strreet..and that could be very interesting,,
In the movie 'Dreamscape' a thread is that people can enter your dreams and actively be involved,,shape. your dreams,,
That maybe a little to far for this eklement of Prometheus..but still ...
I am sorry I missed this thread..when it was first posted..
Be choicelessly aware as you move through life
Svanya
AdminPraetorianJul-08-2012 6:15 PMThis was the best thread ever, I am so sad it is deleted. You had it right Biomechanic. :(
sukkal
MemberOvomorphJul-08-2012 7:17 PM
What theory did it posit, Svanya?
skyguy1054
MemberOvomorphJul-09-2012 1:06 AM@ Bio
Couldn't see your posts. Not sure why...
At the very end of Shaw's dream sequence, for just a moment, she sees David there (in the dream). It is at this moment, when David's presence in her dream is seemingly 'detected' that David breaks the link. Only saw the flick once, but remember being creeped out by what seemed almost like voyerism, or at the very least, a violation of her privacy.
Also, on an unrelated point, the ALIEN novelization does mention dreamers, including one whose dreams were of warm, fat mice hiding in dark places, a cute touch.
cheers,
sg1054
TrInItYsphere
MemberOvomorphJul-09-2012 3:57 AMOh this post seems empty :( Sad
neo
MemberOvomorphJul-09-2012 6:35 AMWow!!!! Welcome back bio.... SO sad that the post is empty..... Awwwwww so sad :(
Precursors
MemberOvomorphJul-09-2012 1:20 PMUntil the Behavioral inhibitors were integrated into bishops model I believe all AIs had questionable motives and remorseless drive toward whatever goals their programmers drove them toward without regard to preservation of human life.
Biomechanic
MemberOvomorphJul-15-2012 2:08 AMSystem diagnostics revealed stack overflows on all memory modules for unit #FFAA33 (Biomechanic) The faults were investigated and determined to have caused extensive data corruption. All data was completely erased on the authority of Weyland industries synthetic engineering division in accordance with special order 935.
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Svanya
AdminPraetorianJul-15-2012 12:25 PM@sukkal; Biomechanic posted that he thought David8, using the visor was in fact reading shaw's dreams. There were even images up and the neuro-visor link established was pointed out as proof he was reading her dreams. Which we now know was exactly what he was up to. It was an incredible post and so sad it is gone. :(
Biomechanic
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 2:34 AMThanks Svanya it was nothing really just figured that weird helmet had to do something creepy.
However while watching the movie for the first time I was kind of dissapointed I had thought of this among other things. The over analyzing I had done before the movie kind of hurt my enjoyment. I stayed away from most spoilers and stayed away from all sites when it premiered in UK but I allowed myself the trailers and TV spots thinking they were safe. Now I feel like everything was basically given away. Kept having a nagging "I think I know what's going to happen next" feeling.
Lesson learned I guess.
Free deguassings for everyone who remembers too much.
MVMNT
MemberOvomorphJul-16-2012 5:09 AMAndroids don't sleep. Ergo, androids don't dream... do they?
Baa.
Certainly agree that pretty much all the meat of the film was given away. A sort of backwards marketing, creating a "nah there must be even more to this, amazing if so" mentality. When really it was Scotts "All about everything" way of doing it right there, in the preamble to the main event