Rick
MemberXenomorph02/1/2012Ramskull,
There is an issue with that. The 3 entered the derelict through the vaginal openings in the front middle of the ship. If the egg chamber is where you are saying it is in your diagram then they came in through the egg chamber. In order for the cavern to curve to the right and then back to the left the SJ chair would have to be positioned on the left side of the hammer head. Another issue that is posed here is that the cavern is heated meaning there is still a viable power supply on the derelict. Where is the power core at and how come the Nostromo couldn't pick up on a power source? I also don't think the novelisation dimensions are accurate stating the cave is 130ft high. If you look at Kane going down into the cavern that thing is at least 300ft deep if you figure Kane is around 6ft and he looks like an ant in the picture.
Regards,
Rick
Rick
MemberXenomorph02/1/2012So I think its an underground cavern that the derelict opened up and the structural work on the cave walls could have been built by the SJ Spawn under the ship.
Xenophobe
MemberOvomorph02/2/2012@Rick - I like your "vaginal" opening name LOL! But yeah, I think the cavern must be a seperate space to what's within the Derelict ship as it curves massively into the distance. . . But this begs the question, why does the cave have similar architecure to the SJ ship??
The High Priest
MemberOvomorph02/2/2012have been reading this thread. To be honest you are all reading way way too much into this. Its just a continuity error. The egg chamber IS on the derelict. The fact that it is out of proportion is just a filming mistake. Nothing more to it than that. Deal with it. Move on.
Ender
MemberOvomorph02/2/2012You're missing the point High Priest, speculation and reading into things is the point many of these threads. We're doing it for enjoyment and not so we can hold anyone to account on revelation of the plot.
Try it - it's pointless fun
The High Priest
MemberOvomorph02/2/2012Agreed Enderwiggin - However that is my speculation and reading into this thread. Valid, I'm sure you would agree.
Ender
MemberOvomorph02/2/2012Valid - indeed. However I suspect you're right and the egg chamber is actually on the ship, I doubt Giger and Scott had the ruler out when the Derelict was conceived.
Ramskull666
MemberOvomorph02/2/2012Indeed, it is pointless fun! But i agree, Giger and Scott didn't have a ruler at hand when putting things together, and its definitely a filming mistake.
And yes Rick, your point is entirely valid. Once again, we will have to wait and see what Prometheus has to offer on this subject...
Spartacus
MemberOvomorph02/2/2012I wonder if it is a filming mistake at all...I mean...Scott would have changed something there for the special edition they did afterwards if that were the case...No way he himself would have missed that let alone Giger...I think there may be an answer forthcoming during the last "8 minutes" of Prometheus.
Xenophobe
MemberOvomorph02/2/2012Yeah I know some filming mistakes happen but to film a man being lowered into a cavern which is obviously way more vast then what the ship appeared to be from the outside, seems more than just a mistake to me. . .
Bazinga
MemberOvomorph02/2/2012Hmm, my post did not load? If this doubles up I am sorry but I thought I added to this discussion?
We all know films have missed errors that are not found during the final tuning before a movie is released. This may just be a big perspective issue that was not caught or there could be other explanations. I feel that the cavern is underground for a couple similar reasons. If the ship did crash I would think that all the eggs/cargo would be tossed around and there would be pieces all over the place. Perhaps they have enough sticking power to remain unscathed so that I do not know. The blue beam is a different story. If they eggs were already there on the ship and the beams were there to protect the environmental (evaporation?) then it would suggest damage or end of life for the other beams that would have been present. OR-
It is a cavern and the eggs were already there protected by the beams. My problem is that anything we have seen so far that lays eggs and bleeds acid is not tech enough to place any protection around the "nest" other than natural barriers. Whatever broke out of the jockey, bled through the floor was not capable of placing electronics up for what ever reason they were there. Either way this room/cavern would have been made specifically for the purpose of storing the eggs or other biological materials. IMHO (trivia in case anyone want to know: The blue lasers used in Alien cam from the rock band "The Who". They were performing near by and Scott borrowed them for effects).
Xenophobe
MemberOvomorph02/2/2012@Bazinga - I was gonna get to that point about how the eggs look like they were placed there by something/someone, be it a SJ or Queen Xenomorph. . . In that case you're right, the way they're spread out on the floor of the cavern indicates they can't be in the ship as if it crashed, they'd be all over the place or destroyed UNLESS - The ship landed safely and/or the cavern is in fact within the confines of the ship. Both of those last points are less likely in my opinion.