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Necronomicon .Atlas Begins

Necronomicon .Atlas Begins

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FacehuggerMember137 XPApr-16-2018 4:18 PM

In this frame you can see David facing the overview, like a King who is praised (Ozymandias), only that the world is dead, he has killed him to raise his creatures, he remains proud of this and knows he is one human mistake , as a genocide (emotion).
the macabre atmosphere is only the beginning of what we will see, comparison to the future, because I believe that RS is referring to the novel by Giger Necronomicon, adding to each film always a greater number of elements.
The creatures of Giger frescoes of every kind I believe will enrich the next film, I imagine it as a mysterious structure composed on the Covenant ship and part developed on the planet, this concept fascinates me a lot, regarding the pursuit of the experimentation of the android.
if there was a source of biomechanical nature, derived from engineers and manufactured only on the capital planet?
a sort of liquid, of a nature preservatrtice of the organism, which evolves according to the individual, we look at the Engineers of Prometheus, the suit reflects the enormous physique of the individual and if David discovered this source and produced it for his goals? would give the protomorph of AC a hybrid far removed from perfection, highlighting the xenomorph.
in the theme I talked about how this source was used on humans, referring to Giger drawings, the structure would degrade growing with the organism and everything becomes alive "Biomechanical".


A detail taken by chance was the butterfly in the background, I like to imagine that in all this dark sense there is still good in David, as when I sniffed the flowers.


"Au Revoir Shoshanna"

10 Responses to Necronomicon .Atlas Begins


ChestbursterMember900 XPApr-17-2018 7:38 AM


A few corrections:

1. Ozymandias was not praised in the poem. There only a monument of his was excavated and an on it David lines were written. But he was only a fool as time has long forgotten him and his deeds. The same faith awaits him, making him only a delusional tyrant.

2. Giger was a painter/sculptor, he did not write novels. You might be talking about his art companion, but it is very well known that the xenomorph prototype was in it. Alien Covenant has the least to do with Giger (only maybe David's drawing of Shaw, even those were toned down because Fox didn't want to pay royalties) from the whole 6 movies.

3. The term Necronomicon originates in HP Lovecraft's stories, as a magic book, containing pre-human knowledge, but even that is a bit far from Covenant, where we learn that the xenomorph was a byproduct of David's Mendel style experiments with the black goo. (Where is the ancient knowledge there?) 


DeaconMember10390 XPApr-17-2018 8:23 AM

I would like to further add to Ignorant Guy responses as they touch upon a lot of good things.

1) The Ozymandias Philosophy is connected because it reveals that after a Great King/Ruler they only live on and are remembered by their Works, and any Great Monuments/Statues dedicated to them.... but over time eventually NOTHING will remain of these.  so it touches on many things connected to Engineers, Weyland and David as far as Legacy and Creation.  It holds a lot of Philosophy to it.

2) Giger was a Artist but he did have some ideas on how his interpretation of the work he was doing should have came across, his depiction of the Mural Screams there is a Genetic Connection between the Ship and the Xenomorph, as if the Ship Produces the Organism and that there are Humanoids who Ritually Sacrifice themselves for the Procreation of this Organism.

This is taken further when Giger had the idea that the Egg Silo/Cargo Hold contained Bio-Mechanical Pregnant like Belly Constructions that would Produce the Eggs...    I think HR Gigers ideas should have been explored beyond its Visual Aesthetic.

3) Totally agree, and this goes in context to the OT... i hope they can introduce us to some very ALIEN very Lovecraftian elements into the Franchise that deal with some Ancient Race/Being and a Forbidden/Dark Knowledge.  And not a Manuscript of Davids Works.. but something far more dark, and ancient.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


ChestbursterMember900 XPApr-17-2018 8:51 AM

BigDave we don't know for sure anything about what the Engineers thought about themselves, so comparing to Ozymandias might be far-fetched. They seem to have survived space travel for many millennia,  so I bit of hubris might be understandable. We don't know that their society was in decline or that they demanded worship by their offspring.

So I'm not sure that the comparison with Ozymandias quite works.


FacehuggerMember137 XPApr-17-2018 9:09 AM

1) thanks BigDave  ;)
2)  ignorantGuy  put your knowledge here, I'm glad you're also part of the theme exposed.
it was a mistake to define Giger's book as a novel, I apologize for this, but I am convinced that everything will be overwhelmed by a more painful and disturbing sensation in the sequel, setting aside the creatures of David and starting to play seriously with the trials.
if in AC we have tasted death since the arrival on the planet I firmly believe that the settings will play a part of central substance for the next events.
Ozymandias I compared him to David because it is equivalent to the new identity of the character, his fate is as if it were already written and we can already guess it.
the encounter with the neomorph and he blows on the nostrils of his steed, the creature smells the breath and remains adored by its creator, a small clue of enormous importance.
all that will remain of it could be the perfect creature called biomechanical xenomorph.
3) in the background is not a butterfly, are only leaves that approach the wind held in the instant from the frame, it would have been nice if it had been a butterfly  : p

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"


FacehuggerMember137 XPApr-24-2018 9:40 PM

I apologize if in the first draft of the theme I was too straightforward and unclear, I have covered everything by adjusting the theme and re-propose it again.

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"


TrilobiteMember8212 XPApr-24-2018 10:17 PM

This makes me look at things as a mistake on the Engineers' part- not the most original idea. Looks like they created something that got out of control as suggested from Prometheus. 

the structure would degrade growing with the organism and everything becomes alive "Biomechanical".


That is the million dollar question imo. I hope it is not entirely answered though so that something is left for people to ponder. That's sort of what sci fi is about after all.


NeomorphMember1675 XPApr-25-2018 9:05 AM

The Giger painting looks cool. It looks like someone that is lying in a bath that they try to inject enhancing liquids into. Correct me if I am mistaken but I think that is how they made Wolverine into that person. A little more of Giger would be nice in the next movie but not too much because we have already have that it the movies before the prequels so something new would be nice.


FacehuggerMember137 XPApr-25-2018 10:18 AM

thanks dk and Thoughts_Dreams for joining us.
I believe that the biomechanical concept with the engineers is a topic of the highest value, something that could regain the divided fans.
The engineers 'suit looks like a symbiont, a living organism capable of protecting the individual, an idea that lets me think is to imagine the engineers' cryo-capsule, produce this living fabric, I mean living because it comes out of the dark purple liquid shooting on Prometheus, protecting the bust of the individual keeping him alive.

the central concept is here: if David played with this bio matter, he can modify it and get something macabre according to Giger's imagination, in turn there may be other types of experimentation on this new formula.
A creature that has aroused not a little interest from the beginning is this mural that highlights the divine supremacy of an engineer on a biomechanical creature, as if it were his creation.
If these creatures still go back before the deacons and evolved in the form of slaves on the capital planet, then there could be a war on the two factions and not really a mass murder.

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"


DeaconMember10390 XPApr-25-2018 5:57 PM

"So I'm not sure that the comparison with Ozymandias quite works."

In General its to fit with the Philosophy at play in Prometheus and so it can connect in a number of ways...  Ozymandias is the Egyptian pharaoh Ramesses II.

So its open to different interpretation but the theme at play is we can have GODS and KINGS and Great Monuments can be Erected to show their Legacy, so they may Remain Immortalized in these Monuments... but eventually a King Dies... eventually all that Remains are the Monuments to their Deeds and their Legacy but over time... these things will Fall and Decay... 

On Earth we have Many Ancient Monuments and Statues, including many in Egypt.... if the World Suffered a Event where Mankind was WIPED OUT say 2000-3000 years ago.... then in 2000-3000 years from Now what would remain of those Ancient Sites and Monuments?

If Mankind had died out in antiquity, so before the Steel/Metal Revolution and so Architecture was at that stage of Ancient Rome, Greece and Egypt.... when MANKIND died out....  in 100'000 years would any other Race coming to Earth Recognize these Monuments?

Prometheus HINTS to us that the Engineers came to Earth and many of Ancient Mankinds Monuments devoted to Gods etc were in fact devoted to the Engineers.

We see the Engineer City in Alien Covenant, and its Statues too, and NOW After David Eradicated the Engineers... what would become of this place in Thousands, if not Hundreds of Thousands of years?

"Nothing beside remains. Round the decay
Of that colossal wreck, boundless and bare
The lone and level sands stretch far away"

ONCE a Powerful King a Great Pharaoh Long Gone.... all that remains, is the Ruined Monuments Erected in his Name.

This applies to Legacy too as in Weyland... as he lives on as a Legacy in David... David is his Works.... and so the Xenomorph is Davids and when David is long gone....  people can Look on his Works (Xenomorph) and Despair.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017


FacehuggerMember137 XPApr-28-2018 11:49 AM

BigDavebig storytelling.

"and so the Xenomorph is Davids and when David is long gone.... people can Look on his Works (Xenomorph) and Despair."
the narrative vein that I like.

"Au Revoir Shoshanna"

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