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Something feels off...

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ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3073 XPMar-07-2023 3:41 PM

With all the news on the upcoming tentatively titled ALIEN Romulus I figured it's high time I got back on here to share some gripes. I know quit griping but I like griping.

For the first time ever I find myself curiously unexcited about an Alien movie, and no it has nothing to do with Covenant, Prometheus etc. I usually find myself bending over backwards defending everything from Alien 3 all the way to Covenant (except the AVP's...to hell with those). Something about Romulus just feels off and I can't exactly pinpoint any one reason but instead a multitude of reasons.

One reason is Fedé Alvarez. While I think his work on Evil Dead 2013 and Don't Breathe are very solid...he just seems I'll fit.  Not to mention just about everything his name has been on post 2016 has been rough, The Girl in the Spider's Web as well writing and producing Don't Breathe 2 and Texas Chainsaw Massacre 2022. 

Next would be the casting and more so the leaked rehearsal footage. The casting so far is largely young unknowns which is by no means a bad thing. Casting relatively unknown actors did work in Prey's favor. The leaked rehearsal footage which seems legitimate though does showcase some painfully forced and modern sounding dialogue. Case in point.

https://youtu.be/upPe4uLOW9o

And now the synapse for the film is very....basic. An emphasis on young people encountering the Alien. Ok. I imagine Disney wants it to appeal to a new audience with this focus on young people. Understandable I suppose. We're certainly not getting any younger.

And that brings me to the gigantic elephant In the room... Disney. Goes without saying they've done a bang up job on Star Wars and even Marvel is down in the dumps. Not to mention Alien content released under Disney, namely the Marvel comics, have been underwhelming to say the least. Even the game Aliens Fireteam Elite comes with a forgettable story and cringe Worthy dialogue that often sounds like something from an MCU film. 

I really hope I'm wrong, I really do. Prey was really good and what's interesting is I was actually excited for that and often found myself defending it from those quick to dismiss it early on when it was under the working title Skull. I'm a big predator fan but I care way more about Alien. Infinitely more. Maybe that's why. I really just hope we're getting a film worthy of being called Alien and not a gory Sci Fi slasher where some Xenomorph XX121 mame 20 something's for 2 hours. Maybe I'm overthinking it. Maybe I'm just getting old and cynical. Anyone else feel this way or is it just me?

 

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12 Responses to Something feels off...

Xenotaris

PraetorianMember4251 XPMar-07-2023 4:42 PM

I feel the same. The Alien comics have been a disaster under Marvel's writing and artist team. I hope one day Disney sells the ALIEN franchise off to another movie company and hopefully it can be out of Marvel's reach forever... and back into Dark Horse's hands.

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ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3073 XPMar-07-2023 10:46 PM

Agreed brother. The only plus side on the comic front right now is that Alien and Predator are being removed from Marvel and given their own brand? It's weird and only time will tell if they get any better. At least Salvador Larroca is off the art. 

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Xenotaris

PraetorianMember4251 XPMar-08-2023 8:35 PM

wait Marvel is no longer doing the alien or predator comics?

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Thoughts_Dreams

NeomorphMember1691 XPMar-09-2023 3:56 AM

I hope that it will be better than what we have been given starting with AR, but with Disney I'm not sure. Hopefully they will have it rated R, with characters to give a damn about and interesting monsters. Keep the monsters in the shadow, it works better that way. Not a comic guy, but I kind of understand that with the situation right now. Marvel being owned by Disney, right? Disney doing an average job with the Star Wars movies, I'm not so sure about the future of the franchise, although Scott and Fox didn't do too well.

Chris

EngineerAdmin23361 XPMar-09-2023 5:17 AM

Welcome back to the boards ninXeno426! Gripe away my friend, we're all getting old around here hahaha

I concur I have my reservations of excitement for this new Alien film but not for the director or the cast being of a younger generation - but for the simple fact that it's 2023 and every movie coming out lately has been a regurgitation of the same woke tropes stuffed into ever crevasse of a movie's plot. The agenda pushing has become nauseating and I'm concerned Alien will fall prey to its influence like so many other great franchises.

I was actually pretty skeptical on Prey when it was early in production - I had many doubts and ended up being pleasantly surprised and satisfied by the film when it came out. I'm praying Romulus surprises me in the same way. With Ridley Scott attached to produce I'm sure he'll kibosh any nonsense that detracts too heavily from the flick itself given that he holds the Alien franchise pretty close to his heart (and ego).

Hopefully with a more in depth plot synopsis in the coming months we can get a better idea of what the film will be like. But in the meantime, by all means keep griping hahaha.

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Xenotaris

PraetorianMember4251 XPMar-09-2023 7:25 AM

I hate woke crap

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BigDave

DeaconMember10416 XPMar-28-2023 8:08 AM

"but for the simple fact that it's 2023 and every movie coming out lately has been a regurgitation of the same woke tropes stuffed into ever crevasse of a movie's plot"

Sadly this is Very True....

In regards to the Movie we know so LITTLE about it... i dont have as much Concern for it as i do the TV Series though...

It seems more likely it will touch upon the more Horror Aspect of the Xenomorph, which is what ALIEN and ALIEN 3 had done vs the more Action Aspect of a ALIENS and ALIEN R.  We have seen much more of a Action side to the Xenomorph in Comics and Video Games vs the Horror/Thriller Aspect.

So im ok with them Exploring a Unsuspecting Group of Humans who Stumble upon some Horror that they are NOT prepared for and have LITTLE in the way of Military Experience and Weapons to deal with.

I do HOWEVER... feel your limited with the Xenomorph, this Movie could WORK.. but i dont think you can go over and over with the Horror Aspect before the Xenomorph becomes Friday the 13th in Space with a ALIEN MONSTER...

But on the Flip Side... going all out Action as in Military Might vs Xenomorphs is again something i cant see you pulling off OVER and OVER... before we get a more Limited Version of Star Ship Troopers... Unless we have Xeno Evolution and Xeno-Ships then we will have Star Ship Troopers...

For me i think RS was on the Right Track with Prometheus and what he may have wanted to do before he had to "give them F-ing Aliens" as he said..

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Xenotaris

PraetorianMember4251 XPMar-28-2023 12:07 PM

I wished the TV series would have been more like the Alien RPG instead of another Prequel series.

I want a Star Trek: The Next Generation version of the ALIEN TV series, I don't want a Star Trek: Discovery version of the ALIEN TV series.

Meaning, they should adapt and expand on the ALIEN's human civilization. Outside of the Alien RPG and Dark Horse Alien/AVP Comics, we know next to nothing about the alien-verse outside of the Weyland/Weyland-Yutani Corporation and the Xenomorphs.

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LalaSalamanca

OvomorphMember27 XPMar-29-2023 6:49 PM

With all the reorganizing and cancellations of projects many studios are doing right now I'm kinda having a hard time getting excited about anything that hasn't started filming yet. I worry anything I look forward to can get snatched away in the blink of an eye.

BigDave

DeaconMember10416 XPApr-29-2023 9:05 AM

"we know next to nothing about the alien-verse outside of the Weyland/Weyland-Yutani Corporation and the Xenomorphs"

There Certainly is a LOT to the Franchise beyond the Xenomorph...

The Problem you have in Exploring these in a SPIN OFF would be that to BRAND it and get Recognition then you would be drawn to using the ALIEN Pre-Fix but in doing so then you would be some be Expected that it has to Include the Xenomorph.... its kind of a Catch 22.

Looking at the Previous work by Fedé Alvarez then YES this Movie will be more HORROR BASED than Action... looking at what we know so FAR its likely that some Group of what 4-8 Humans in their 20's/30's will Stumble upon a Weyland-Yutani Space Station... which likely could have been doing some Research.

So it could be likely we are in for a ALIEN ISOLATION meets ALIEN RESURRECTION...  as in if we Imagine the USM Auriga being Abandoned and then a Team of 5 or so Humans arrive at the Ship....

With Ridley Scott attached i think we can maybe have HOPE this will NOT be a Straight up group of Young Humans stumble upon a Egg or Two and then SPEND the Next 45-60 Minutes running away and trying to HIDE and getting KILLED, with the End being we see the ALIEN SOB... Blasted into Space!

If we GET such a Movie then ok..... but we have to look at WHERE to go after this, i think we NEED something NEW and its a CASE of will the Movie or TV Series really offer this?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10416 XPApr-29-2023 9:10 AM

I think Regarding to the ALIEN Franchise, it has its LIMITATIONS and you can go and give us another 2 Movies, be that a more ALIEN, ALIEN 3 or a ALIENS ALIEN R but then its WHAT can you do that has NOT been done before?

The COMICS had explored Various stuff but they DONT differ too much, even IF we had Dark Horse back and they made another 2-3 Comics... WHAT would they do that has NOT been done already?

There is stuff you can do... but IF your going to BASE it around the Xenomorph then what is there to do thats NOT been done over and over?

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Xenotaris

PraetorianMember4251 XPApr-29-2023 9:18 AM

Well you can still have xenomorphs just without Weyland-Yutani involved is what I meant. Taking the Alien RPG into an account there is a interstellar cold war between the Three World Empire (UK + Japan + smaller countries) and United America vs the Union of People's Progression (Russia + Germany + Spain + China + Unified Korea + other countries)

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