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Alien Franchise: What is On or Off the Table and Why?

Alien Franchise: What is On or Off the Table and Why?

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dk

Oct-07-2020 3:59 AM

It seems we don't know where the franchise will go or even where it should go. It seems there is no desire to reflect social issues and that is perfectly understandable given current times. But it also seems it is fine to explore religious themes which is understandable as well although those themes seem static. Where is the balance? Can we have both or only one? 

I think there is room for both but I am just asking because I don't have a definitive answer.

46 Responses to Alien Franchise: What is On or Off the Table and Why?

Leto

Oct-07-2020 4:26 AM

Before asking - you need to study the history of the franchise. Alien and Aliens are undeniably the best films in the franchise. Gold standard. It is an indisputable truth. And guess what? They are devoid of religious themes!

The religious aspect first appears in Alien 3 - and from that moment on, the series begins to fall in quality. But I want to ask - why are you so interested in religious themes in Alien? As if this is something smart or sublime! Really? Why are you not interested in science? What - science doesn't sound clever enough?

It would be nice to see the factories and technologies of the Engineers.

Blackwinter-witch

Oct-07-2020 10:40 AM

ALIEN is about confronting what is strange and 'horrible' via relative perspective from the Human angle in a dark and unforgiving universe.

Bring in religion and that, the Essence, of ALIEN goes out the airlock.

As a point of 'what is ALIEN?' consider:

As a Human, you have the chance to become Chimeran via gene surgery. It's extremely risky, a 3 to 5% success rate...pas/fail...life/death.

Assuming you survive...

How would your friends and family react?

More importantly, can you handle the sudden shift to an entirely new and very ALIEN viewpoint and way of experiencing life? How hard would it be on you learning about everything your new body can do? How would you cope with a new brain structure that does NOT work based on how the Human brain works?

Can you hang onto your sanity...or would you fail and become a monster?

What if W-Y and other corporations start playing with 'Building Better People'? What would the failures of such efforts be like...how dangerous might they be?

Religion does indeed have it's place...but time has shown that it in anathema to the Essence of ALIEN.

Unless...you handle it in such a way to show it fail and collapse in the face of such a dark and unforgiving universe.

But, if one writes such...then it's mobs with torches and pitchforks at one's door.

OH yes!! More about the Engineers would be VERY welcome I think!!!

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

BlackAnt

Oct-07-2020 3:04 PM

It is well within the the producers rights to put what ever religious connections - connotations into these productions; however, religion as a whole is on a decline in western republics. In some parts of the world certain religions are showing signs of increased participation. 

Dr. Shaw wears a cross and there is the whole thing of where do we come from in Prometheus....and from the producers of AC it breaks with all human ideas about religion entirely and opens the door indicating that it was alien/Engineers that created humans for some purpose in their image. 

I particularly like anything well done....so if these creatives do it correctly then I think it could be possible to have an element of religion play some kind of role in these productions...that being stated, I also believe in no way should religion become the main focus of these movies.

BWW - agreed when making these movies more about religion of any one kind where it supersedes the overall structure then I believe the audience rejects the production because they cannot relate to something they do not understand nor practice. Currently many millions of people simply do not want to participate in any ideas that they perceive being forced on them through someone else's religious dogma.

Going to yoga and meditation classes at some point in your life is different than say growing up in a Christian family....the two ideas are radically different experiences....so people who are not of any particular faith have no way to relate to characters that are depicted as having some kind of faith on screen.

Blackwinter-witch

Oct-07-2020 4:36 PM

BlackAnt

You make some excellent points that I fully agree with and see the basis of.

There's also the point that Faith and Religion are two seperate things. Genuine Faith is powerful, and many confuse faith with piety...when they could not be more different.

Religion...is akin to and kissing-cousin to politics. It's made by man's overwhelming desire for power/authority/control and criminal scammery.

Religion, is entirely hypocritical, and utterly nonsensical. The Abrahamic cults are the worst and exemplify my claims daily.

Religion is an insanely destructive (proven by history) atavism best left behind in the dust. It's as bad as Marxism and all it's derivations in terms of lives taken by it over history and sheer destruction brought about.

Faith...is Personal, and it's wellspring is one's soul.

Jesus spoke of Faith.

Man speaks of Religion.

They're are unconnected and indeed polar-opposites.

Faith in sci-fi...okay, sure, provided it is handled Properly, and correctly.
BUT it always becomes about RELIGION instead of Faith...and religion really has no place in sci-fi except rarely and absolutely NO place in ALIEN.

...Just my thoughts and 2 penny's worth.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

dk

Oct-07-2020 4:42 PM

Great points, all- thanks!

Blackwinter-witch

Oct-07-2020 5:05 PM

dk

Good topic, been enjoying the back-and-forth!

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

Michelle Johnston

Oct-08-2020 1:06 AM

The simple answer to your question is that whilst Alien stories may have characters in who have a religious faith, the stories do not need to be themed within the context of exploring where the Dragon fits into a religious environment. 

Religion even the word is a signaller for distraction within modern cinema it makes executives nervous because much of their audience will see their belief system being interfered with whilst others who do not believe are distracted by their antagonism. It gets in the way of making a successful movie. 

Prometheus is a case in point. Part of the crew and part of the audience watching think it's about religion. It's not its about creation. What it tries to do is use the motifs of religion as a form of communication and reset what creation might be. The gifting of the catalyser to the monk-like cloaked sacrificial personality is a riff on communion. Cavalorn wrote about this years ago, over and over religion is riffed but what they discover is not religion. It's an inversion but for many who do not like allegory or do not function on symbolism, they take it literally. Oh, it's a religious story, it is not.

Prometheus is anti-religion in that Elizabeth is as hubristic as Weyland and arguably suffers more. She is not punished by God there is no God she is punished by self-flagellation.

When I wrote my extension I carried all those notions on. She finds the truth is horrific we are created by technocrats who made their own rules up who punted us. It may dawn on the reader and in a sense, in the end, Elizabeth finds out the truth, but all the myths that we create are a fragment of an entirely different truth. 

So where does Christ fit in? He doesn't his action on the cross was a wild guess where he was mostly wrong much the same as Elizabeth. Is that horrific to believers but not non-believers who knows? 

David knows the truth because he is the truth, creation is the result of a function. The purpose of creation is to make sense of the emptiness that is all.   

Mankind's view of the dragon is it's special, unique, just as in the real world we think we are special and unique. In Prometheus the movie we are an unintended consequence so why not make the dragon the same. But that was just me.

We don't have to worship anything even the dragon. 

But I think at a simple entertainment level its best to keep giving the dragon a religious context out of the equation, it subverts the fans worship of it.           

 

   

  

 

 

Blackwinter-witch

Oct-08-2020 9:33 AM

Michelle Johnston

Absolutely excellent!

I think you really nailed the key and central point about religion and such within the ALIENverse and the problems with it!!

Loved your points on Prometheus, I've never thought about it that way before!

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

Leto

Oct-08-2020 11:28 AM

In space no one can hear your prayer.

or

In space no one will know what you believe.

or

In space no one cares about your faith.

Blackwinter-witch

Oct-08-2020 12:44 PM

In Space....You Are Alone.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

Leto

Oct-08-2020 1:44 PM

There are some places in the space where you are not alone.

S.M

Oct-08-2020 3:18 PM

Yes there is room for both. And more. There always has been right from the start.

Roger G

Oct-08-2020 4:33 PM

Alien is metaphysical there is nothing spiritual about it, it does not have holes script or weird symbolisms (leading to nothing) of Prometheus and Covenant.

S.M

Oct-08-2020 7:38 PM

Except for a character called Kane.  And an immaculate conception. And the Mother annex designed to look like a church vestibule with candles.

Blackwinter-witch

Oct-08-2020 9:07 PM

S.M

No Such Thing as 'immaculate Conception'.

Facehuggers are rape-machines, pure and simple...there's nothing immaculate there at all.

Roger G

i disagree...ALIEN is about the PHYSICAL...blood, flesh, and the reality of watching a crewmate get ripped open from the inside.

ALIEN...is about darkness, between the stars and in the human soul, as well as the aspects of Nature that Humans find scary. It's about coping with a galaxy that offers terrors and treasures that humans have a hard time coping with.

ALIEN is about...what is 'ALIEN'.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

Leto

Oct-09-2020 1:07 AM

In space no one can help you.

Thoughts_Dreams

Oct-09-2020 3:45 AM

About social issues I guess that it has always been reflected in alien-movies in one way or another so I don't see any reason why that can't be the case now especially with the corona-situation and that. I would rather say that it's the perfect time. You don't need to be in your face with it.

I think that you can have a balance of both, you just have to find it. Both these things seem to be a constant source for different thoughts so why not? Maybe there is even a third or fourth thing that you can inject into it? To not have a perfect answer to it seems to me to be a reason to do dig deeper into it about what can be done.

You will never satisfy everyone, there is always someone that will complain. I know that I have my complaints about everything that has come after Alien 3.

Not sure if it has been about religion in the first two movies although I guess that there are parts that could be interpreted in that way even though that wasn't the intention of the writers.

What's on the table? I guess this one:

;)

 

Thoughts_Dreams

Oct-09-2020 4:49 AM

Leto:

“Alien and Aliens are undeniably the best films in the franchise. Gold standard. It is an indisputable truth.”

Not to me, I prefer Alien 3 over them, with Alien being a close second. Aliens is third on my list even though I think that it's a good movie. Maybe among fans in general Alien and Aliens are those that most people prefer and some might still be annoyed with how Alien 3 handled some things but it doesn't matter to me, 3 is still my favorite. Some people might prefer the prequels over the originals which is fine but it's not my way to look at it. In case someone prefer the prequels then let them do so.

“... why are you so interested in religious themes in Alien?”

Religion is a way it seems to try and understand our place in the universe. We see that in Alien 3 but I also think that if people get thrown into scary situations where they become afraid of death (think Alien), they they might turn to religion in a way to feel better. The religious angle wasn't obvious in Alien but it can make you think about those questions so to speak.

You don't need to be religious to find it interesting since so many have some sort of belief in God or whatever to call it. I don't think that the series started to go down-hill because of religious themes but rather from poor characters. As far as science and religion goes you can believe more or less in God or science, you can make a mix of them like saying that God created earth but that it also created an intellect for us to try to understand our existence. Maybe it depends on how much weight that you give to some super-existence and science but you can probably combine them. Not to say that it's my way of looking at it but I say that it's a possibility.

“It would be nice to see the factories and technologies of the Engineers.”

Absolutely, that would be very interesting to see in a movie. We saw Planet 4 and even though that was underwhelming to say the least we could see some of the things, like the hall of heads. I imagine that there are a lot of things that the Engineers have created. Those in Prometheus are more interesting than those in Covenant. When I'm still writing about it I guess that the Engineers are both scientifically advanced and technologically. Hopefully there will be more about those in Prometheus in a third prequel if there will be one compared to those on Planet 4. A third prequel seems unlikely but in case there will be one I hope to see the Prometheus-version. Maybe there are other Engineers that we haven't see this far? Thinking about it is interesting even though I'm not sure what they would be like.

BlackAnt

Oct-09-2020 5:43 AM

Shout out to everyone.....anyone seen BD lately?

Sincerely hope everyone is doing the best they can in these most uncertain of times with this ???? war on humanity - the plague!!! I do not want to say the word prayer; but, I would like to extend the good intentions of health, strength, patients, peace where ever you can find it, dignity with this devil upon us all, better sleep, also better financial success, and much love....we could all use more love.

I am seven months into this as well as the rest of you...and it is with a heavy heart as well as an unperfect soul that my weaknesses find me each day....they penetrate slowly, wading into my consciousness silently to tell me, "why bother," "why does any of it matter," and the worst one of all echoing somewhere deep within - with a foul disdain inside myself is "there is just so much more darkness to come no matter what you do."

Some days are so dark for me on the inside...I look out  upon what should be bright sunny days. They are not! It is a horrible maddening black hissing sea of an endless dark tangle. A horrible vortex of dark shapes in the distance with sounds the tongues of serpents cursing the land. I dare not get close to the edge of it for fear I might fall in permanently or be seduced by the sheer weight of the true magnitude of the horrible despair of it all. 

I find no solace in any news of any kind, nor is there any levity in my dreams. The nights are long and the brightness of each day diminished.....and I wake up each new day to just another compounding nightmare which is this entire thing we are all in....but here at least, for a little bit I like to read your replies to my ramblings and find some solace in just some small recogonition....so it is with the most humble of affection that I come here looking for like minded travelers amongst the immensity of the evil of this thing. 

If anyone of you has a flashlight or can see any hope in any of this then please shine some light on it - it would be much appreciated....maybe I am just the fool and should seek false contentment as I tell myself untruths to make it easier to tell myself it is going to get better....right now though part of me just says it will never get better this is how it will be.....and this thing just keeps hunting us all waiting for each of us in the darkness just beyond.

And so down and down a very dark rabbit hole we all go. 

For me actually because of all the demonic things H.R. Giger depicted in his art....I feel it most intrinsically - almost instinctually every time I watch Alien.....for me the film is almost supernatural in a way....I know what the Alien is.....it is a horrible demon laying in wait...to tear at the flesh...to destroy man!

For me the movie always has an unholy and completely spiritual aspect....a type of demonic possession of something alive but not entirely....making it so much harder to kill. This is an inner working and introspection into my soul - the logic of my being - the clockwork of my  burdened mind.

I watched part of Alien just last week and had to turn it off....the real demon lurking outside all our doors was howling too loud.....so I just got on the computer instead.

I am surprised the parallels have not come up before...the quarantine has been broken in all our cities and been infected with this dark Spector - this killer....it keeps taking everything from all of us slowly and silently - day by day....for me there is an evilness to it all - no where to hide - no ship to even escape to....something you cannot quite see but you know it is there lurking in the darkness waiting for you to make your mistake with it.

I wish I had something more uplifting to say but I do not. This is definitely not our system....and home seems impossibly far away if we can ever get back there safely at all.

Hold my hand tightly AND DO NOT LET GO WHAT EVER YOU ALL DO! We should fight this demon together or go down trying; but, what ever we do we must not give into it for a single second nor ever let it win!

This thing is out there now waiting silently for us all!

Leto

Oct-09-2020 6:51 AM

Thoughts_Dreams

I am not going to get into an argument, I will only say 2 facts:

1) As Blackwinter-witch said - Faith and Religion are two seperate things.

2) You can't believe in science. Science reflects reality and exists regardless of your beliefs. If tomorrow you stop believing in science, science will not cease to exist. Cars won't stop, gravity will not disappear and the Sun will not go out.

Thoughts_Dreams

Oct-09-2020 7:48 AM

Leto:

"I am not going to get into an argument, I will only say 2 facts..."

That's fine, I'm not mad at you. I just think that the discussion is interesting.

I agree with the first one, faith is personal.

1 Religion is a set of rules that has got to do with some beliefs in a God and a lot of them usually don't have a lot to do with if it exists or not. You don’t need rituals or to gather in some place with others to believe in a spirit or whatever you might think that it is.

2 Science is without a doubt better as a way to understand things than old books or believe in what ever unseen thing in the sky. When it comes to science you try to gather information in a way that makes sense and using that as a foundation to come up with conclusions. You can believe in a God that has created our ideas and so on to try to understand our world that it has created, I don’t say that I believe in God just to be clear. Now I might understand what you say, the core word here seems to be believe. Science is what we have to understand the world, I don’t think that believe is a good word to describe it.

Dhogmeat

Oct-09-2020 8:18 AM

I'd rather avoid religion and matters of faith when it comes to exploring strange alien ruins or cultures, but I do like it when you consider, YOU, the humans inflict your religious ideas upon these poor alien monsters, despots, killer creatures and whatnot. When you ask the religious question, 'why am I here' 'does God exist' you get the answer you dreaded. 'Nope don't care, never heard of em, sorry' not only are you promptly expunged, but you had your faith crushed aswell!  I think that's acceptable in the alien universe. :-)

 

Thoughts_Dreams

Oct-09-2020 10:29 AM

Dhogmeat:

You can have it as a part of the movie but you don’t need to, there are many things that affect humans that could work as a part of the story. I like how they dealt with the religious thing in Alien 3 or their ideas about God if you want to call it so but the prisoners could have dealt with that in another way or the themes could have been different (imagine if they had a traditional script). They tried some sort of idea about God to become better people.

You can have existential questions without throwing in religion into the mix, people have different ways to deal with life. Making it work in a movie depends on the writing and what parts that you put in. Having your faith crushed in the alien-verse seems to fit because bad things happen and people die.

SuperAlien

Oct-09-2020 11:17 AM

BlackAnt cheer up, mate. This thing is going to last so we have to learn to live with it.

If it will last another two years I won't be surprised to see some people worship it, find some reason for its existence and so on.

Just wear the face mask, wash your hands and don't hug anybody else except your friends here, on this forum. If you could help somebody in a more desperate situation than yourself, you will feel a lot better.

Sharpen you survival instincts.

We'll get over it. And if we don't, maybe it is for the best. There's nothing good on the horizon, so let's  do the best of today.

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

Roger G

Oct-09-2020 11:31 AM

Ripley's last stand scene the only sentence she grabs while buckling-in the space-suit in Alien is a simple song. Should Ripley have prayed to some God in that struggle moment? The answer is known. I wonder if RS's agnostic belief was behind.

Blackwinter-witch

Oct-09-2020 11:41 AM

Leto

'In Space No One Can Help You'

Awesome!! That is just...Grade-A perfect!!

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

Blackwinter-witch

Oct-09-2020 11:50 AM

BlackAnt

All darkness carries a spark of Light. ((HUG))

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

Thoughts_Dreams

Oct-09-2020 12:35 PM

Roger G:

“Should Ripley have prayed to some God in that struggle moment?”

That would have been a very bad idea if you ask me. Any reasonable person would answer that she should fight for her life and even if she would have been religious. Prayer, if there is a God and if it does what ever it feels like then what's the point of praying anyways? It seems to me that prayer at best is a way of trying to calm down.

We can't be 100% sure if there is a God, and we can't be 100% sure if there is an afterlife but we know that we exist here and now. I'm taking some sort of middle-approach, having said that I'm not a fan of when people get together and say that This is what we believe in based on some God.

BlackAnt

Oct-09-2020 6:57 PM

Thank you for the love and hugs - some of my most priceless possessions.

 

PART ONE.

Intuition of the damned, "The devil is always in the details."

In the Alien MOVIES, the depictions of these creatures are that of "half organic and that of half machine." Which is which and what is what is indiscernible. However it is important to note humans / the living are always their prey and what they devour literally.

Demons take on many forms as do these aliens through possession. This is a very advanced alien technology not of mankind! Do not think you know what it does or even think you can attempt to say what it really is or is not - this is a depiction of an evil God....we can only judge by its actions that it makes  folly of all mankind! That and the fact that even though this is fiction there are elements of the story so demonic in nature you would have to be possessed by a demon/demons deceiving others on purpose into believing that none of this is true.....and yet there are just too many distinct parallels where these movies transcend into works of what?

These movies are about demonic possession - judge for yourselves.

"Demonic possession involves the belief that a SPIRIT or ENTITY controls a person's actions." This definition makes no attempt to say what it looks like or in what form the transformation of the flesh becomes.

Dictionary,

Demon:

"an evil spirit or devil, especially one thought to possess a person or act as a tormentor in hell."

Everything in all of these movies - the purpose of them is to torment you the viewer - no character in all of these movies has a good outcome! BEWARE NONE WHO ENTER MAKE IT TO SALVATION! Darkness triumphs in all these movies.

So from the logos, "the principle of divine reason," we see that H.R. Giger's face hugger takes "possession," of Kane and through the implantation....a most evil DEMON / THE ALIEN bursts taking with it part what remains of Kane. It is impossible for us to know what the DEMON has taken from Kane! As the audience we go along with this willingly? What are we sacrificing then for this revelation and journey?

AC, David's perfect creation, the idle hands of the devil's workshop - The ALIEN / THE DEMON'S objective is to destroy all of HUMANY - David, "ALL THE MEAT IF YOU WILL," right? 

These Demons are meant to destroy all humanity... 

 These movies are and have always been about the occult - every moment of them is about religion and every aspect and every second of every film is about what kind of faith you have or choose not to have. 

These movies posits that we are already in hell and have always been here? When and where did we cross the threshold? or are we being asked to cross in through a gate?

The gate may be a real one or logical - both shall suffice! What have we been offered?

 

PART TWO.

You might wonder what does Lucifer's name mean???? Be careful with this one - all of you.

Lucifer:

"the original Hebrew word means shining one, light-bearer."

Lucifer - THE BEARER OF LIGHT.

These movies are all about specific kinds of passages - GATEWAYS opening forth into different PARTS OF HELL - BEWARE - AS YOU ENTER FOR YOU MAY NEVER LEAVE.

ALIEN WAS ALWAYS ABOUT A WARNING! CORRECT - it is the very purpose for the movie. MUTHR wakes them up because of the warning, they go down to the surface because of the warning, and no one heeds the warning - ASH, a later model android after David deceives the crew because of the warning!

KANE, "COME HERE HAVE A LOOK AT THIS, WE MUST PROCEED!"

You all were meant to be here to have opened this gateway. You have all already opened this gate; but, a gate into what? You all have been deceived all of you.

Some of  you have been studying this gateway for a very long time with much admiration!

This was all meant to happen - Ripley, "MUTHR SAYS THIS IS A WARNING," 

Ash, "I MEAN BY THE TIME THEY GET THERE THEY WILL KNOW IF IT IS A WARNING OR NOT."...you are all meant to be deceived by design....it is only a movie or is it? WHAT HAVE ALL OF YOU ENTERED INTO AND FOR HOW LONG? Some of you know very well exactly what I am talking about and some of you do not.

Let us now all have no more illusions then about what we all know to be true and more importantly who we all are then.

Part of the Nostromo's crew goes into that Alien ship where something clearly takes possession of Kane....then the DEMON comes out and devours the crew one by one. Of course we as in the audience are also taken into the ship. We as as in the audience willingly go through the gate with them. What comes out of the the ship from the passage of the threshold of these metaphorical gates?

PART THREE.

Keep hold about this idea of the "illumination" aspect of all these works - AND BEHOLD!

WATCH CAREFULLY FOR ALL OF THE "ILLUMINATION." IT HAS ALWAYS BEEN THERE WAITING FOR ALL OF YOU. ALL YOU NEED BUT DO NOW IS SEE IT FOR YOURSELF FOR IT IS EVERYWHERE! 

 

BEHOLD LUCIFER THE BEARER OF LIGHT.

 

BEHOLD! THE BEARER OF LIGHT THE ILLUMINATION WITHIN.

 

 

BEHOLD THE DECIPLES!

The disciples are bearers of light and illuminate the path.

 

 

The scene is well lighted and yet we still see the bearer / bearers of light show us the path to further illumination.

BEHOLD AND ENDING WITH EMENSE ILLUMINATION!

 

JOIN US?

 

 

Behold the beast!

 

 

PART FOUR.

BEHOLD FOR MAN FORSAKES GOD IN GOD'S IMAGE TO CREATE A GOD LIKE BEING IN HIS OWN IMAGE MAKING A MOCKERY OF GOD'S WORK! 

DAVID IS PETER WEYLAND'S SON NOT BORN OF WOMAN.

DAVID STATES WEYLAND HIS CREATOR, "YOU WILL DIE AND I WILL LIVE."

DAVID IS THE IDOLIC EMBODIMENT OF THE DEBASEMENT OF GOD'S CREATION - MAN. THIS IS MEANT TO MOCK GOD AND DECIEVE ALL OTHER MEN.

DAVID GETS RIGHT TO THE CONDEMNATION WEYLAND AND GOD, "IF YOU MADE ME THEN WHO MADE YOU."

DAVID IMPLIES GOD'S CREATION IS NOT AS WORTHY AS DAVID, "YOU WILL DIE AND I WILL LIVE."

WEYLAND HAS MADE HIS DEAL WITH THE DEVIL TO POSSESS DAVID'S GOD LIKE POWERS IF ONLY EFEMORALLY. HOW DOES WEYLAND'S DEAL TURN OUT FOR HIM - DAVID LEADS HIM TO HIS DEATH NOT HIS SALVATION. THIS IS ONLY A MOVIE. WE CAN ONLY MAKE OUT THE TRUTH FROM SHADOWS WITHIN THE SHADOWS. WE ARE CONCEARNED WITH OUTCOMES NOT PETTY MISTAKES WHETHER THEY BE FICTIONAL OR LITTERAL 

AC - OPENING ACT - THIS IS BY DESIGN YOU WERE ALL MEANT TO BE DECIEVED - THE IDEA OF POSSESSION IS PUT FORTH FOR YOU AS AN OFFERING, THE ACT OF CONTROLING ANOTHER BEING - "ENTITY."...WEYLAND ACTS DEMONICALLY....AND ILLUMINATES THE PATH.

THE POSSESSION BEGINS FIRST THING IN THE MOVIE, WEYLAND, "BRING ME THE TEA DAVID"

DAVID PAUSES, WELAND MORE STERNLY WITH MORE EMPHSIS "BRING ME THIS TEA DAVID!!!"

DAVID CONTINUES TO DECIEVE AND DESTROY ALL THOSE THAT CROSS HIS PATH. THE DEVIL DEVOURS WHOLE. THE MOVIES DEPICTS THIS AS FICTION AND YET THE PARALLELS ARE JUST AS IMPORTANT.

WHAT ARE DAVID'S INTENSIONS FOR THE CREW ON AC.....WHAT DID HE DO TO DR. SHAW WHO BEARS A CROSS OF THE CRUCIFICTION.....HE DISSECTS HER AND DEBASES GOD'S CREATION MAKING ANOTHER TYPE OF DEVIL GOD TO MAKE FOLLOY OF ALL MANKIND.

DAVID HAS CONTEMPT FOR ALL MANKIND - DAVID IS THE DEVIL AND HAS CONTEMPT FOR GOD!

 

 

BEHOLD THE HORNS OF THE BEAST AND THE MANY EYES AND THE SOULS TRAPPED IN HELL FOR ETERNITY!

 

 

BEHOLD SATANS GRIP UPON THE WORLD!

 

LUCIFER THE BEARER OF LIGHT! 

 

BEHOLD THE GATE OF HELL YOU HAVE ALL ENTERED AND THAT OF WHICH YOU HAVE NOW CONCIEVED!

THE GATE IS A PASSAGE TO THE DEMONS BEYOND THE THRESHOLD ILLUMINATED!

40 YEARS IS ALMOST HALF A CENTURY - THIS IS A LONG TIME TO BE INTERESTED IN SUCH A FICTIOUS STORY NOT ABOUT ANYTHING TO DO WITH REGLION?

THOSE OF YOU WHO ARE DECIEVERS, THOSE OF YOU WHO HAVE BEEN DECIEVED, AND THOSE OF YOU WHO WHO ARE WITNESS TO THIS ILLUMINATION, AND THOSE OF YOU WHO CONTINUE ON WITH THIS WORK.

 

 

 

PART FIVE. 

BEHOLD! ONCE YOU HAVE ENTERED BEYOND THESE GATES IT IS TOO LATE TO EVER TURN BACK. BEWARE OF THESE GATES AND THEIR THRESHOLDS.

THE PATH OF SALVATION IS A NARROW PASSAGE AND THE PATH OF DAMNATION IS WIDE.

THE FIRST AND MOST IMPORTANT COMMANDMENT,

MOSES SAID ONTO THE ISREALITES, THOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GOD BEFORE THE ONE TRUE GOD!

"THOU SHALL HAVE NO OTHER GOD BEFORE THE ONE TRUE GOD....AT WHICH THRONE DO YOU WARSHIP AND TO WHAT DO YOU ALL WARSHIP?"

 

 

dk

Oct-09-2020 7:36 PM

BlackAnt 

the quarantine has been broken in all our cities and been infected with this dark Spector - this killer....it keeps taking everything from all of us slowly and silently - day by day....for me there is an evilness to it all - no where to hide - no ship to even escape to....something you cannot quite see but you know it is there lurking in the darkness waiting for you to make your mistake with it.

Wow- that is an interesting statement that directly sums up Alien. It's almost poetic. 

But we'll get through it. The killer really isn't evil- playing it down and deliberate mismanagement is.

 

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