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I.Raptus

ModeratorPraetorianSep-02-2019 1:33 AM

Apologies for my absence, life and all that. What have I missed :)

Straight to business, I usually enjoy this channel and their modern info-graphic breakdowns of various topics but this one makes me question the teams fact-checking abilities....or is it just bold presumptions 

unless im missing something?

eg- Facehuggers typically go for the face but will make do with any orifice, or even a deep wound. umm

0_o

anyone care to weigh in?

 

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Kongzilla

MemberChestbursterSep-02-2019 1:56 AM

This is just another silly vid with superficial popular knowledge about aliens. 90% of this video doesn't match the facts about aliens.

 

The fire can't kill aliens.

Kamoebas V.6

MemberChestbursterSep-02-2019 3:23 AM

Leto,this alien is from a movie.

Kamoebas V.6

MemberChestbursterSep-02-2019 3:26 AM

Xenomorphs are easy to beat,just use explosives or keep shooting it.

hox

MemberFacehuggerSep-02-2019 3:48 AM

I gave up half way through. It's too annoying.

Kongzilla

MemberChestbursterSep-02-2019 4:20 AM

Kamoebas V.6

 

No one alien from films never was killed by fire. Even more - Alien from Covenant invulnerable to Cargo Lift's plasma flame. And plasma is much-much hotter than fire.

 

Xenomorphs are easy to beat,just use explosives or keep shooting it.

Maybe, but fire is still useless.

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-02-2019 7:03 AM

I think this Video Highlights the Various Misconceptions about the Franchise, all arising from the Evolution of how we Interpret the Xenomorph from Movie to Movie.

We dont know if FIRE would have Killed one at the Time of Aliens Bugs..... i mean maybe a Paint Ball Gun could have done the Trick ;)

But as LETO had pointed out... we had seen more signs of the Xenomorph being Resistant to Fire/Heat, we could look at the Alien 3 Runner who carried on after having EXTREMELY HOT Molten Metal poured over it.... and also the Covenant Xenomorph and Plasma is another Fine Point.

However... FIRE could still be Considered a Weapon, depending on the Xenomorphs Senses... as it is a Source of Light.... but it depends on HOW does the Xenomorph Sense its Surroundings.... they LACK EYES and so you could assume that LIGHT would have NO Effect and so a Flame Thrower should be something that a Xenomorph should have no FEAR of.

It basically could be as Useless as attacking it with a PILLOW!

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Kamoebas V.6

MemberChestbursterSep-02-2019 9:41 AM

Leto and everybody,Xenomorphs are easy to beat,when i played Alien Colonial Marines (I managed to beat this game lmao) i used and explosive and killed a xenomorph in one hit,i just kept shooting one Xenomorph and killed it,in alien vs predator,i could only use guns as a marine,which is the same thing with the previous game,for the predator its like:

ONE SHOT ONE KILL!

I didn't want to create a conflict about how to kill a Xenomorph.

Kamoebas V.6

MemberChestbursterSep-02-2019 9:42 AM

Fun fact:the hardest level from Alien Colonial Marines was  the first level.

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-02-2019 10:37 AM

I think this is the Problem when talking about Canon as far as Game vs Movie vs Comic vs Novels...

As the Xenomorph can be Portrayed as Weaker in some of those Mediums than others....

Most Video Games will NEVER have a Sense of Realism to them, as well it would make Playing them Too Difficult.

But going by the Franchise in General as far as Movies it is something that is HARD to Gage.....  in ALIEN you have no real way to see how TOUGH the Xenomorph is as the Nostromo Crew could  not use any Weapons for Risk of a Hull Breach.... 

In Aliens and Alien Resurrection we are shown that the Xenomorphs can be Dispatched with the Right Weapon. And so they are FAR from as Resilient as Alien 3 and Alien Covenant seems to Indicate.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

MonsterZero

MemberXenomorphSep-02-2019 10:59 AM

Always thought killing was 'easy'...(with the right weapon).....it's the acid blood that freaks me out. You don't dare blow it up on your spacecraft.

(When Daniels shot the xeno in the crane ...I was far more concerned that she'd get sprayed with acid.)

I'd Probably end up tying to freeze it?

dk

MemberTrilobiteSep-02-2019 11:59 AM

Fire may only repel a Xeno but that would be enough for me.

Kamoebas V.6

MemberChestbursterSep-02-2019 12:01 PM

Listen,im no Xenomorph expert,im an alien fan.

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-02-2019 4:46 PM

I dont think anyone is a Xenomorph Expert we can only Speculate about it as its something that is Changed Movie to Movie and Medium to Medium ;)

I think the Thing to remember is we have had many Incarnations of the Xenomorph as far as HOW it is Portrayed......

Like i mentioned prior it appeared to be more Resilient in some Movies, i think that the AVP Movie is a Good Indication of what the Xenomorph is capable of (not AVPR though).....

I think we need to Consider that the PREQUELS and Concept of the Prequels had indicated the Xenomorph is a ENGINEERED KILLING MACHINE....  Be that it was Engineered by David or the Engineers it was Regardless a Engineered Weapon.

How do you deal with it?

BRUTE FORCE and Containment... you have to use Heavy Firepower and Contain the Spread of the Organism.

The Xenomorph is a VERY Efficient Predator, you can try and RUN... but maybe cant HIDE...

Environment is its Ally... and Enemy...

Its difficult to Barricade against it, only the Best Defenses like that would work... but one Hick Up and a Break of this Defense and your in Trouble... being Caught in a Enclosed Environment is NOT Good News.

Being ALONE is also not Good News....  you need to Rest!

The Weakness of the Xenomorph is being out in the OPEN.. where you have a Location that is not Built Up... No place to Hide, and a Large Area of Low Grass or Flat Planes.....  

A Area that is FLAT for a Large Distance, of say 1000M in all Directions....   Then you NEED some Fire Power, that is Heavy, and has Good Range....

A Good Supply of Ammo and a Ratio of Arms/Personal to Xenomorph and then its kind of a Piece of Cake!

Well as long as its Quite Light outside.... in the Darkness things become more Difficult ;)

Other than that.... then bring along Ripley with a Tooth Pick and you will SURVIVE lol

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteSep-02-2019 9:24 PM

Kamoebas V.6,

Aliens: Colonial Marines is one of the worst video games ever made. The difficulty for this game is so low a newborn child could complete the game using only one hand.

If you think the Xenomorph is so easy to kill then why not try your hand at playing Alien Isolation, or if you have a Commodore 64/ZX Spectrum/Amstrad CPC emulator the video game Alien, released in 1984 (developed by Concept Software).

Kamoebas V.6

MemberChestbursterSep-02-2019 10:28 PM

Alien isolation is too hard for me,i can't clear chapter 4,and also after the first level of alien colonial marines,it was easy.

Kamoebas V.6

MemberChestbursterSep-02-2019 10:29 PM

THE XENO IS UNSTOPPABLE IN THAT GAME!

Xenotaris

MemberPraetorianSep-02-2019 10:48 PM

The problem with the AVP is the xenomorphs specially Grid, Grid was basically the xenomorph version of a Marry Sue. Paul W S Anderson can't write himself a coherent story to get himself out of a wet paper bag.

 

Alien Isolation is a fun game, scary but very fun. Yeah fire in the Alien Movies just only scared the xenos, the fire weakness was only present in the games to give the human players a fighting chance otherwise in multiplayer, the human players would be quite screwed. 

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BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-03-2019 5:49 AM

Oh i forgot.... Welcome Back I-Raptus

I think with ALIEN we have to remember they had to take precautions to NOT Kill the Xenomorph on the Ship as the ACID would cause a Hull Breach, and with the Game Alien Isolation it was the same Principle, which is to Survive against the Xenomorph when you dont have any Fire Power.

With ALIENS we can forgive how Easy they was to KILL due to the Marines having High Power Explosive Rounds.

ALIEN 3 was a bit SILLY how the Xenomorph Survived the Molten Metal.

Alien Covenant we saw the Neomorph and Xenomomorph took quite a bit to KILL, but then we have to Consider the Covenant Security Weapons would NOT be as devastating as the Colonial Marines.

A lot of Video Games are made for Fun, some can be on the more Easier Side..... Imagine the Old School Doom games (or Newer Ones) with only 25 Hit Points instead of 100... that would make for a Super Hard Game Franchise.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-03-2019 5:56 AM

Talking about ALIEN GAMES...

Who remembers ALIENS on the ZX Spectrum?

That was Hard.... and Stressful ;)

It had been Remade for PC and improved a little.. HERE is a Video its called LV-426

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Lone

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2019 6:04 AM

There was no easy way to dispose of Giger's Big Chap from ALIEN. If you shoot, cut, flame thrower it, you risk acid bleed breaching the hull. Plus, I'm sure it had an adverse resistance to most things, I doubt you could kill it! Plus, Ridley now hints at the Alien having regenerative properties, so...

Remember, it was still alive when the Narcissus's engine blew it out into space.

JC's Bugs were easily disposed of, huge mistake in my book! That's why I disregard them, they diminished the whole concept of what the Alien was. Ruined the whole mystery & terrifying, unknown entity factor.

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Lone

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2019 6:09 AM

Ps. I'm with MonsterZero rather like when dealing with The Thing, your best defence would be to freeze it, as there's probably no other way to contain it!

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-03-2019 6:12 AM

I think the Regenerate Comment was a little odd, as he suggested the ONE that was Crushed by the Loader Claw would REGENERATE.

To Continue and show that such a Xenomorph would Regenerate back together would CONFLICT the Franchise in General.

I much prefer and hope that he meant that the Xenomorph was NOT Dead as such, but from its Remains then Eggs could Grow/Regenerate... i think that would be a Pretty Cool way to add something to the Organisms Life-Cycle.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconSep-03-2019 6:19 AM

@Lone

Thats a Great Point, just as MonsterZero pointed out!

There is ONLY the ONE Solution then!

MR FREEZE!

Arnie has that ENGINEER look going on ;)

"Get Back to Da, Jugga-Nort!"

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Lone

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2019 6:20 AM

Ultimate Alien deterrent...

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Lone

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2019 7:00 AM

Hahaha you beat me to the punch Dave! I spent too long searching for the right pic! :) 

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Lone

MemberPraetorianSep-03-2019 7:10 AM

It does seem a kind of odd comment to make Dave. I could buy the Alien having a minor self repair ability, but to be totally crushed then regenerate is a bit of a reach.

Makes you wonder if at the back of his mind Ridley was thinking of a way for Walter & his regenerative capability to be utilised by David for his ultimate alien specimen?

Might not be as random as we think, after all Ash did tell the crew they couldn't kill it!

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

dk

MemberTrilobiteSep-05-2019 10:26 PM

Kamoebas V.6 Play Isolation on Novice difficulty. That's what I did. No shame there imo. It's about having fun and soaking it all in. I promise the game is worth your while.

hox

MemberFacehuggerSep-06-2019 12:02 AM

@Lone, IMO the worst clip in Aliens is where a Xenomorph gets squashed by the APC. These f****rs are supposed to be STRONG!

Xenotaris

MemberPraetorianSep-06-2019 1:31 AM

@Hox

That APC is obviously very heavy. I mean you could be the world's strongest man but even you can't surviving being crush by a herd of elephants or a fucking tank

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