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many of you have bean against blomkamps alien movie( myself included) and now he saise that he has moved on from the project.
I started to find to check out his production company oat studios videos. after watching these I now have trust him with an alien movie.
these were my three favorites:
(warning. extremly disturbing content.)
the first one(firebase) is just so bizzare and cool that I cant help but love it. it also has some great action sequences.
the second one(zigote) is my personal favorite. I think it shows that he would be great for an alien movie in many different ways. first of all it is super tense, atmopheric scary and gory. alos the creature design was absolutly amaking.
the third one(kapture fluk) really capurs the slimy corperate evilness very well.
after watching these, I am convinced he would make an amazing aline movie. there are some problems though. manny people do not want alien 3/4 retconned in place of this one considering that they are very valuable parts of the lore. my solution to that has actually aalready bean done before in the alien earth war comic series. it was released before alien 3 and told the story of hicks ripley and next fighting xenomorphs on earth. when alien 3 came out and killed newt and hicks, they changed the charector names. they than made ripley into an aandroid modeled of ripley. the overall plot remained the same and thats what I think this alien 5 could do. another problem is that the ridley scotts prequels sort of have to be given a conclusion. I think he should get to make one more to tie it up then let blomcamp take over. the final problem is that neill blomkamp himself said he had movies on from the project. Has he really though? would he turn down an offer from disney to make the movie? I think not. he seems to be very passionate about it.
It would be a very good finantial desision on disneys part considering there is much more mainstream fan support for alien 5. plus they already have a free script that could be produced earlyer.
what do you think of these ideas? do you think blomkamp should direct an aline 5 if it dosn't interfere with cannon or ridley scotts movies?
also, I hope you enjoyed the oats studios videos I posted. let me know what you think of them.
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I must admit that I would like to see what Blomkamp could do with an Alien movie, but I have some reservations because of the way he appears to be carving out his own niche. I think Neill is exploring an ultra AI route, and developing his own series based on AI society ( this probably what RS saw and felt that there was an overlap into his ideas and possible conflict of interests in story development.
An example of his most recent AI stuff is Adam which is a sort of mini series.
I also get the feeling that an Alien project could be too restrictive for the kind of directions he might want to go.
Some of these do have some Alien Franchise loos vibes to, and i think Blomkamps aim with these are to show that he can make a Alieny Sci-Fi movie, those shorts are very very Sci-Fi Channel Low Budget and not so well done... but they are not as bad as Sharknado lol
I think Blomkamp has great ideas, and visually he also has a good vision, i think he needs a good writer to put his ideas to a better Script, however i am not 100% confidence he is the ideal person to be the Director on a Project as i am not really sold he could give us anything more than a tacky low budget kind of feel as far as Characters and how they appear on screen.
I would be open for him to be given some role though, but i am TOTALLY against doing ANY Alien Franchise movie that brings back or covers Hicks and Newt and also the only Ripley movie that i feel should be tackled would be a sequel to Alien Resurrection.
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Personally, I want closure first to the prequels, then Bloomkamp's Alien 5 to give justice to the Ripley story and closure once and for all and then have a new trilogy far in the future or somewhere in between.
If that means throwing Alien 3 in the trash can then I am totally against it. I can agree on taking AR out of cannon though. Let Newt, Hicks, and Ripley stay dead they have had their time.
Batchpool: If he is going the AI route then that would almost be the same as AC so I would not be interested.
I don't believe alien5 is in any way intended to trash anything. what was said was basically u will always have alien3 and AR but, this is how I would have gone with it from aliens and if u don't like it, u have those other films. a lot of people didn't like the fact that one of the most popular characters in aliens was killed off. I for 1 don't care either way as I like alien3 but its always interesting to see what someone else would have done. if it is done right then people will like the movie for what it is and hey, u have another alien movie to watch so win win right?
Ali81: They can keep Alien 3 as the official version I am fine with it but keep Alien 5 like a what if this did not happen but do not retcon Alien3, that is what I am saying. I would still like Alien 3 to be the official ending for Ripley because I like that ending for the character.
what if she dies in Blomkamp's movie as well? I agree her character had to come to an end n if AR had never been made I would have been fine with how the character went out. IF we get Blomkamp's film then why not keep an open mind n after wev seen it, make our minds up. remember u don't have to watch it again if u don't like it and ul always have alien3
I hope - Blomkamp will get his dream movie. Aliens must be continued.
I agree with Critters5 in wanting closure on the prequels first.
I am curious as to what Blomkamp could do with an Alien film. Especially if he had a good writer, someone like Alex Garland, or even go back to Jon Spaihts to pair him with.
I like his visual style and ideas, but he needs a better writer agreed. His films tend to have a big bold premise but tiny in scope and a predictable plot formula recycled across his films.
I strongly dislike his quasi-retconning of A3 and AR idea though. Write something original and fresh.
There was a trend a few years back with directors making 70's inspired movies, with a really cool grungy, gritty style which I think would be a really good match for a classic type of Alien movie. You have Adam Wingrad ("You Are next", "The Guest"), Ti West ("House of the Devil", The Inkeepers"), S. Craig Zahler ("Bone Tomahawk", "Brawl in Cell Block 99"). I also support the idea of producing or co-producing an Alien movie with Blumhouse studios, using practical effects only and young and creative visual designers. I think Alien (the franchise) needs to get down from its ivory tower and get back to business. If Ridley cannot see this, he needs to go.
I'd like that. Probably not a movie...Just a web series or Netflix. Get permission to use the Covenant Space Jockey set...and do something....even if it's wrong!
I'd also like to hear Sigourney in a Alien radio drama....get Fassbender and have Ripley meet David after she was rescued from the Narcissus. Before she was sent on the Aliens trip.
Thousands of stories could be made easily with audio dramas(no make up...no huge set$$...any time)
Alien 5 aka Alien Awakening, was intended IMO to just give us a Alternative Direction.
so we have Aliens end in 2179 and then with Blomkamps idea what we have is TWO Alternative Time-lines.
1) Alien 3 where Eggs/Face Huggers got onto the Sulaco and infected Ripley and one got on the Evacuation Ship.
2) A alternative were no one was infected on the Sulaco and the ship made it back to our Solar System where Ripley, Hicks and Newt would try and continue with a normal life for 20+ years before the events of Blomkamps Alien Awakening Occurs.
It would offer fans a choice of which route they preferred and even would allow fans to consider both as alternative routes and enjoy them, while it would not Force fans of Alien 3 to accept that movie is not canon, but it allows fans who did not like Alien 3 to get a alternative sequel.
The only issue i have is this idea would just suit Fanboys and be Fan-service but also its being left a bit to long and maybe is a idea thats 5 years too late. If Blomkamps idea was implemented instead of Prometheus in 2012 i think it could have worked.
Each year that passes the Surviving Cast of Aliens gets older and since Prometheus came out it offered us something NEW and Expanded the Universe and i feel this should be were we should be going and not Resurrecting Ripley, Hicks and Newt.
My Biggest concern is Miss Weaver, her comments to me seem to suggest she would want as much input into the Movie than RS would want in any movie he is part of. Her comments seem to point towards actually there is the potential to make more than ONE Aliens sequel where its all about Ripley, Newt, Hicks and BISHOP... how they going to explain a Synthetic Aging 30 years+
I feel at present (unless Prequels plan to answer/discount these) then there are a number of avenues between the Time-Line of 2105-2179 where Xenomorph's and Xenomorph like Monsters can be Resurrected without affecting the Alien Franchise or Prequels.
IF you received Davids Olive Branch from the Advent Viral, what do you do as Hierarchy of Weyland-Yutani?
*Send out a Mission to intercept or arrive at Origae-6 which likely could mean arriving after David and the Covenant ship arrives?
*With the information David sends, can the company pinpoint the location David sent this from? or find out where the Covenant had re-routed its course (Planet 4) as surely Planet 4 is much closer to Earth than Origae-6
*Knowing what David sends, he has basically informed the company that its from LV-223 that has allowed him to embark on his Creations, so surely with LV-223 being much closer than Origae-6 the company would investigate there!
So it makes NO sense for the Company to just send missions to Oriage-6 without investigating LV-223 and maybe Planet 4, and within context of the Franchise (unless RS plans a Alien Sequel Re-boot) we have to ask what becomes of LV-223, Planet 4, Origae-6 by the time of Aliens in 2179
So these are areas a Parallel Alien movie could take place. And why not ask Blomkamp for some ideas for the Story and Visual look of such a Movie?
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