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What is your preferred female character in AC?

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SuperAlien

MemberXenomorphOct-25-2017 11:41 PM

Another divisive question for fans.

I would choose Faris as the best female character in Alien Covenant. Amy Seimetz took the cake in every scene she played, putting everyone else in the background. If only she would have lived longer...

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joylitt

MemberNeomorphOct-26-2017 12:00 AM

I liked Carmen Ejogo as Karin, even though her character was very underdeveloped.

I.Raptus

ModeratorPraetorianOct-26-2017 12:04 AM

Faris was an interesting character. As the pilot she was resourceful, decisive, adaptable and highly skilled. But she totally out of her league when the bullets started firing (which admittedly she was not paid to deal with). Like Lambert in Alien, she totally fell apart when faced with the horror's, pace and brutality of a 'morph encounter.

Personally I liked Rosenthal character, though mostly from the Origins novel. The film barely gave a glimpse of the cool-headed, ever alert and fiercely loyal final member of the Covenant crew.

Much like Lope for that matter. Great character's over-shadowed in the film.

 

 

SuperAlien

MemberXenomorphOct-26-2017 12:21 AM

Agree, Faris was a nervous wreck when she saw things were getting out of control, but she acted like everyone facing an unknown highly aggressive threat. She was overwhelmed,  hesitant, asking for help and fighting back when understood she had to help herself. Her character could not replace Daniels but her acting was extremely believable. 

Those scenes with Faris running back and forth unable to decide and asking for help were more intense than both scenes of Daniels fighting the Protomorphs.

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SuperAlien

MemberXenomorphOct-26-2017 12:27 AM

Karin and Rosenthal were good too, I actually liked all the characters who went down on the planet. Not sure yet about Ricks and Upworth. 

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cuponator3000

MemberChestbursterOct-26-2017 7:49 AM

I guess I prefer Daniels... Only because she had literally had more time non screen. They create as as strong a character as possible, but I enjoyed it, as well as Waterston's performance. I do agree that Seimetz (Faris)did a great job when she had the time. This topic reminds me how great the cast really was. Only a few characters were given a chance, but I feel like everyone was doing a great job portraying them. 

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MonsterZero

MemberXenomorphOct-26-2017 11:27 AM

Daniels.

She watched a loved one burn alive(That would have ended my monster hunting career right there..Watching anyone burn up like that...They would have taken me away on a stretcher and I would never get in a sleep coffin again!)

Plus she killed 2 Xeno's. Looks good on the resume'.

dk

MemberTrilobiteOct-26-2017 1:12 PM

Daniels- a very tough character and obviously was given a bigger role and more development.

Rosenthal had a lot of potential but had very little development or screen time.

Genx

MemberOvomorphOct-26-2017 4:03 PM

I prefer Faris. Seimetz did a great job. Her performance was memorable. I don't like Daniels at all, mostly because Waterston's acting.

Leeta

MemberOvomorphOct-27-2017 4:09 AM

I preferred Karin because she was still caring in a desperate time. I like Daniels as second. I think what made me dislike Faris was when she shut the door on Karin even though she also was exposed to the contaminate directly. I don't really feel any attachment to Rosenthal because she didn't really stand out to me in the movie.

Seph7

MemberFacehuggerOct-27-2017 7:46 AM

Daniels was certainly the most developed, and so had the most background to relate to.

Purely after reading Origins, I can certainly appreciate Rosenthal more, and wish she'd been given more time on-screen.

Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphOct-29-2017 2:16 AM

Both of them were OK, I didn't dislike any of them. It is just like with most human characters they were not given a lot of thought. One thing that AC did right was that none of the characters were written in a way that annoyed me. Prometheus had many characters that I disliked Covenant didn't have any of that so that was a step forward. The focus on David is what made the movie worse than it could have been.

I felt sort of sorry for Faris when she broke her foot and had to run away from the neomorph. That scene was a good action scene by the way because I really felt for her. Eventually the closest that we can get to that in real life is if we are for some reason chased by a dangerous animal (let's say a mad dog) and we hurt a foot while we still have to run the best way that we can to avoid getting killed.

“Those scenes with Faris running back and forth unable to decide and asking for help were more intense than both scenes of Daniels fighting the Protomorphs.“

Yeah because that seemed to be a scenario that could happen in real life if you are unlucky enough (see my paragraph about the dangerous animal).

Xenotaris

MemberPraetorianOct-29-2017 2:29 AM

I like Daniels, Feris, and Rosenthal (wish she had a bigger role and she was kind of hot looking)

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MemberChestbursterOct-29-2017 7:38 AM

I really didn't like Upworth.

I would have to pick Daniels over Faris because Daniels wouldn't leave a friend locked up in a room with an alien.  I like Daniels smarts and decision on the whole landing on Planet 4 question.  Of course, Oram was the captain, so the crew went to Planet 4. 

Gavin

MemberTrilobiteOct-29-2017 8:15 AM

None, I wanted the Quest for answers movie called Paradise following Elizabeth Shaw and David, not the clusterfuck we call Alien: Covenant

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberChestbursterOct-29-2017 9:25 AM

I liked all the female characters and thought they were all quite competent and well-acted. I love Daniels but preferably, I liked Karine cuz even though Ledward was violently convulsing she still sympathized with him and gave him that hug. Plus the way she supported her husband was admiral. Shout out to Rosie though!

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Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphOct-29-2017 10:23 AM

Gavin: I am sorry but I disagree a bit. Shaw extremely naive and irrational. That characters was without a doubt one of the worst characters that I have seen in the Alien franchise this far. She makes the characters in AR look like Oscar winners because at least they didn't behave that dumb compared to Shaw (as far as I remember it). You mention a movie that follows David and Shaw, if that is the movie that they would have been given us then I would have boycotted it because of Shaw so that is at least one thing that they got right. At least we can agree that Covenant had a lot about it that was bad.

Lawrence of Arabia: They were alright but the characters could have been built a lot better. They were a bit too anonymous for me. They should have had more parts that explained what the characters were about, that gave them more personality (for example what they did like crew messages that they have on youtube although they should have been in the movie).

SuperAlien

MemberXenomorphOct-29-2017 12:52 PM

“Those scenes with Faris running back and forth unable to decide and asking for help were more intense than both scenes of Daniels fighting the Protomorphs.“

Yeah because that seemed to be a scenario that could happen in real life if you are unlucky enough (see my paragraph about the dangerous animal).

Thoughts_Dreams so being chased by a neomorph could happen in real life while fighting a protomorph not? Or Amy played so well that you can easily think of a real life scenario?

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Genx

MemberOvomorphOct-29-2017 2:49 PM

Thoughts_Dreams I disagree with you. Shaw was not such naïve, like a lot of people like to describe her. The fact that she was wrong is nothing but an expression of humanity. But the most important thing is that she was able to recognize her mistake and change her vision. I am not ashamed to connect to this character.

But this type of character like “a lone voice of a sense” which represented Daniels bothered me.

I agree with Gavin, I would prefer a movie about Shaw and David searching for answers.

Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphOct-29-2017 2:58 PM

Daliens:

She played so well so I could sort of think of that is how you would react if you would be chased by a dangerous animal on earth while being injured. Maybe I wasn't clear enough with what I meant, I hope that you understand it better now.

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberChestbursterOct-29-2017 3:06 PM

Shaw's quest for answers would be redundant as the answers lie within Prometheus. David already knows why because he is the answer as summed up by the conversations between Holloway and himself, they created us because they could and creators despise their creations once they can't control them or step out of line to which the only recourse is death.

 

 

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

SuperAlien

MemberXenomorphOct-30-2017 1:42 AM

Lawrence of Arabia I agree with you, humans as well will destroy any robot they cannot control.

I wonder now if it is a good idea to have the engineers return in the next film, after David wiped out the cradle of their civilization. 

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberChestbursterOct-30-2017 8:52 AM

daliens

Exactly. I'm excited to see the wrath of the Engineers, what they will do, and how David will retaliate.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberChestbursterOct-30-2017 8:54 AM

I actually liked Amy Seimetz as Faris. Thought she was quite attractive (as most of the women in A:C are) and her acting was well done. The Medbay sequence was one of the best parts of Covenant as you can feel the sheer dread/terror that these characters are going through.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphNov-02-2017 8:30 AM

Genx:

So we disagree about that, I don't have a problem with the fact that we disagree about Shaw. To me it doesn't matter if that was an expression of humanity because humans can be a lot of things. Her traits of what is possible to find among human beings were not very good. Unfortunately she lacked common sense/was naive. She gained no sympathy from me, I just thought that she was stupid especially since she was supposed to be a scientist and they should be smarter than that. I honestly hoped that she would die for being so stupid. One of the good things about AC was they got rid of Shaw so good riddance. Yeah, I would still be very annoyed by a character like that if it would be a real life person I would probably think “please do mankind a favor and move to another planet (like some Idiotville or something)”.

She realized that she was wrong, good but she still was naive and stupid. These things did not change as far as I could see at least. Maybe she was still dumb as a character after the movie was over and if so she deserved what she got in AC.

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