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Who's your favorite Android?

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Rick D

MemberOvomorphOct-17-2017 4:31 PM

What Android from the Alien franchise is your favorite?  And why are they your favorite?

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dk

MemberTrilobiteOct-17-2017 11:08 PM

It is between Bishop and Call for me. Call was good but could get too emotional at times. Still, she did the right thing. Bishop always kept a level head and made it known he was not keen on risking his life but acknowledged his role of serving humans in Aliens.

I don't think Walter got to show his true potential, but I would rank him with Bishop.

Ash and David were fascinating but sinister and untrustworthy.

Bishop is my final answer.

 

I.Raptus

ModeratorPraetorianOct-17-2017 11:28 PM

Ash because he don't care what you think. He is superior and he knows it. His aloof attitude towards his fellow crewmates is exactly what you would expect of an AI posing as a Science Officer

And he has amazing dance moves.....

Dizzy yet? 

Ash isn't

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianOct-17-2017 11:53 PM

Walter, there's a LOT to that character that remains to be discovered and revealed.

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Cerulean Blue

MemberFacehuggerOct-18-2017 8:23 AM

I am a Walter fan!!

Lawrence of Arabia

MemberChestbursterOct-18-2017 8:43 AM

I like all the synthetics, they each have their own personalities, so it's hard to choose lol Of course David is the best but I also like Bishop/Walter for being good guys. Ash was pretty sinister and Ian Holm did a great job at portraying that. Call is just adorable trying so hard lol

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

Dark Nebula

StaffXenomorphOct-18-2017 8:53 AM

David. He is crazy like he's not normal.

"We all have our time machines, don't we. Those that take us back are memories...And those that carry us forward, are dreams."

Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphOct-22-2017 7:23 AM

Call, Winona Ryder in short hair says it all really.

If I don't go by looks then I would say Bishop, he seems to be the most sympathetic android to me. Bishop is probably the one that I would most of all hang out with just talking about stuff.

Walter was OK, I almost forgot about him. David and Ash were assholes.

LOL at the dancing Ash. :D That would look so goofy on the dance-floor.

Blackwinter-witch: I wouldn't mind if they will put Walter in the next movie but I think that he is dead. The character was interesting as a counterweight to David.

Belle Chevelle

MemberOvomorphJul-16-2019 11:21 AM

I love the good androids, Bishop and Walter, the best, but I will give David an honorable mention as he is incredibly interesting. 

Bishop I've loved ever since I was kid. He was so kind, patient, gentle, brilliant, and dutiful. Like Ripley, he was afraid, but he got the job done. He's proof that an individual can be quiet and kind and still an absolute badass force to be reckoned with. Literally half of him was more helpful to Ripley and Newt than pretty much the entire human crew. Much love to my man - uh, android - Bishop. 

I also love Walter. He had a straightforward innocence and the Bishop-like quiet, intelligent kindness. I loved how he protected Daniels without question, so many times, losing his hand and throwing David away from her and yelling at her to run. I loved how he offered to help her with her ship duties right after her husband died and told her from the beginning that he would never let her down. He was kinder than the humans. You could argue it was his programming, but he was GOOD.

I enjoyed the contrast between David and Walter when David insisted that Walter loved Daniels, but Walter replied, "It is my duty." Love and duty often occur concurrently. Soldiers can demonstrate the coexistence of love and duty, showing their love for their country through their dutiful actions and commitment to service. So perhaps both David and Walter were right. Walter was made to be like the Terminator in Judgment Day; someone who would know why you cried, but would never be capable of doing so himself. (But then again, Aliens androids are delightfully more gray area at times, so you never know...)

Daniels was not wrong to ask Walter to help her build the cabin by the lake. He was smarter and kinder than all those people put together and I would've done the same thing.

I feel sorry that Walter could not ultimately deal with David; Walter deserved to live. It was perhaps his programming making him more obedient that was part of his downfall and he had less experience dealing with situations creatively as David had. David showed him he could compose a tune with the flute, but Walter was not sneaky enough to keep ahead of David. Although it made him imperfect, David was saved by his baser human instincts. 

Finally, David is terribly interesting to follow, especially in Prometheus because you weren't quite sure of his autonomy/programming/free will until later on and then, oh man! David experimented on the humans and conceivably got consent, although it was not informed. He surely would have known from a procedural standpoint that it wasn't ethical, but he has his own agenda. He did many things that were arguably more human than android which gave you a hint as to what was behind that robotic facade. I enjoyed seeing his character growth even though he was ultimately evil. Awesome villain!

The androids are my favorite characters in Aliens. Observing the interplay between their robot and human characteristics and the good and evil they express through some combination of personality and programming is utterly fascinating! 

Xenotaris

MemberPraetorianJul-16-2019 2:38 PM

I like all the androids. They each have their own personalities and the coolest thing is how the synthetic technology progress in the Alienverse.  We have the Early synthetics represented by David, how he was unstable and more human than the other synthetics. Walter was a more "improved" version of David with his "humanity" removed from him. Ash was kind of like david just lacking the humanity part, so they again "improved" them with the more human loyal Bishop. Call has perfectly passed for human.

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BigDave

MemberDeaconJul-16-2019 3:14 PM

"I feel sorry that Walter could not ultimately deal with David; Walter deserved to live"

I Speculate that we would see Walter again, i base this on the Comments by Ridley Scott regarding the Sequel, as he claimed there would be 3-4 Incoming Parties that would be arriving (to where David will be heading Next).   And he said that ONE of those Parties will be the Engineers who will return to Planet 4 and Discover the DESTRUCTION left behind and would be AFTER the Culprit.

Now we have to Consider a Few Things..

*The Engineers Ships must be Vastly Quicker than the Covenant and so they would Intercept the Ship quick, but it seems David will arrive at his Destination First.  So its HIGHLY likely the Engineers arrive at Planet a LONG time after David has left.

*How would they Track David? Do they have some Technology that Can Trace the Ship leaving Planet 4?  I Doubt it.

*They would discover the Crashed Juggernaught and even if they Activate the Hologram Recordings all the SHIP can reveal is that the Ship came from LV-223 and that a Human was on board.

*What could they make out from the Wreckage of the Lander? i doubt anything, or Equipment, would the Remains of the Humans who Died on Planet 4 still be in any condition to allow the Engineers to identify the Species and where they are from?

They could also come across WALTER... if he is just a Corpse they would still make out his likeness to Humans.

But all of these would only DRAW the Engineers to LV-223 or Earth.

It is HIGHLY LIKELY that David would go to Origae-6 and its UNLIKELY the Engineers would know about this... UNLESS!!!!!

They discover a Walter who can Inform them or Point them in the Right Direction.

The only way this COULD-NOT happen would be if David had Uploaded himself to the Walter Model, and all that remains is ONLY the Empty Shell of David.

Also it is likely that TWO of the other Parties will be Human Ships and so maybe ONE of those can have a WALTER.

So our Walter is NOT gone... well NOT if we got a Sequel to Alien Covenant that is like what Ridley Scott had intended.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

MemberDeaconJul-16-2019 3:28 PM

Double Post!

So may as well Edit to replace with this...

I think the AI aspect is something interesting to look at, and i feel Ridley Scott felt the same, and it could appear that we could explore AI beyond the Limits of Synthetic Technology.   As Ridley Scott sees the Replicants as AI and i think he intends to show us the Prometheus Engineers are AI.

Something  i find VERY interesting is the History after ALIENS....  by that i mean the AUTONS  a AI that are Created by Synthetics.. this could be something to Explore as far as the REASON, HISTORY and Downfall of this Action.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Belle Chevelle

MemberOvomorphJul-18-2019 8:46 AM

Thank you for the wonderful, well-thought out, detailed analysis, BigDave! That makes a lot of sense and I really hope it will happen, so we can see Walter again! I'm so glad Ridley Scott loves androids/synthetics, too! His are the best! 

I'm so looking forward to another Aliens movie! It's about time! 

BigDave

MemberDeaconJul-19-2019 7:51 AM

I think what RS was trying to do is show that there can be more about the ALIEN Franchise than just being about the Pursuit of that Cargo on the Derelict and our Heroine Ripley putting a END to the Companies Plans to obtain the Xenomorph.

We could Ponder/Question what if a AI is actually behind the scenes running the SHOW while Mankind are unaware?

A Plot where AI is running the Weyland-Yutani company or plays a MASSIVE ROLE could certainly explain a keen INTEREST in the Pursuit of the Xenomorph at all Costs... because then Mankind would just be Expendable to them and the AI could be interested in Obtaining the Creation of one of their Forefathers (David).

so you could have Expanded Universe Movies that DONT deal with the Xenomorph.  I think the whole Back Ground of the AUTONS  would be something Interesting to Delved into.

Certainly fits with the Prequel Theme of Creation and the Hubris of Sub-Creating... so you could PONDER in Future if AI Synthetics begin to RULE the World... then the Creation of the Autons could likely prove to be the Synthetics Undoing etc.

You could Picture a WORLD where 3 Races are Fighting for Control of the Earth.... Humans, Synthetics and Auton's and that Certainly would explain this Scene. as a Consequence/Aftermath.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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