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Soy Meat- You can only choose one synthetic for your crew. Who do you pick and why?

Soy Meat- You can only choose one synthetic for your crew. Who do you pick and why?

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VivisectedEngineer

ChestbursterMember725 XPAug-20-2017 10:02 AM

I would probably not choose Call nor any other Auton because I think they would be too likely to have their own self-righteous agenda and deviate from the mission.

It's a tough call between Walter and Bishop. They're both pretty self-sacrificing - Walter let his arm get bitten off to save Daniels and Bishop saved Newt from getting sucked into space even after he was torn in half.

I guess Walter did let his identity get stolen and the entire ship commandeered by a psychopath. ...Still, Bishop failed to detect that the Xeno queen had come on board and laid eggs. 

Nevertheless, Walter's a little stodgy and stoic and at least Bishop shows some emotional reactions to things, and knows cool party tricks like the thing-with-the knife. I'm gonna have to go with Bishop.

Would anyone choose David or Ash???

(Also, I started writing this two days ago, when the "Off Meat" and "Red Meat" threads were posted, but my lap-top suddenly and permanently died in the middle of my comment. I know two days is like a decade in internet time but I finish what I start, gosh dammit! Also, I'm glad to be back from internet-less oblivion. :P )

79 Responses to Soy Meat- You can only choose one synthetic for your crew. Who do you pick and why?

Cerulean Blue

FacehuggerMember446 XPAug-21-2017 8:31 AM

Walter!

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPAug-21-2017 9:01 AM

Great point regarding Dr. Shaw's reward for her time with David 8 VivisectedEngineer. I'm an android relationship optimist.

I just feel like I would be able to redirect some of that energy into something more towards my interests at the expense of the Engineers. We could also ride mountain bikes throughout the spaceship, watch movies, and have language studies. I would feel really good about myself if I was able to beat David 8 at darts.

Walter

OvomorphMember85 XPAug-21-2017 10:21 AM

Impossible to say.David (Prometheus) or Walter.

But he now is "The madman"

Walter is the option.

 

Cosmonaut-Copper

OvomorphMember27 XPAug-21-2017 11:48 AM

I'm with Ingeniero on this. Walter is nice, cute and helpful but David sounds like more fun (however I wouldn't turn my back on him). I will also take one for the team and choose Ash... poor buddy... no one loves him. :D

Is Samuels from Alien: Isolation an option? He was great!

VivisectedEngineer

ChestbursterMember725 XPAug-21-2017 4:19 PM

@Leeta, Ingeniero and Cosmonaut-Copper

Good luck with that!

(But Cosmonaut-Copper, yes, Samuels from Isolation is an option - any synth in the series is. Do you change your answer?)

@Ingeniero

Don't you remember what happened to Walter when he corrected David's Ozymandias attribution? I have a feeling that if you beat David 8 at darts you'd have a good ten seconds to enjoy your win before getting stabbed with a flute!

@Cerulean Blue & Walter

Seems like a sound choice, Walter is helpful and loyal.

I Moon Girl

ChestbursterMember611 XPAug-21-2017 6:55 PM

I would choose Walter because I want the advertised Teacher model of Walter.  I wouldn't want any other android.  That is the only android that I think I would actually pay the outrageous price those AI's would likely cost.

I don't remember David 8 being advertised for different job customization.  The Walter model is really the first model that is really trying to connect with people.  At least that is how it appears in the advertisements.  We didn't have these advertisements in the previous Alien movies either, but that is probably because there was no internet.

Advertisement aside, Walter seems very efficient and professional, unlike Bishop and unlike Ash.  This is also unlike David too.  David is the worst one out of all of them.  The Ash model is probably related to the David 8 model in some way.  Maybe with Ash, WT tried to put more David in the working Walter model since it would be nice to have some David 8 features.

My choice is Walter.  To refine that choice, I want the Teacher model.  That is the only choice.  If not, I would return that expensive machinery!

VivisectedEngineer

ChestbursterMember725 XPAug-21-2017 7:00 PM

@I Moon Girl

Very interesting! What do you want the teacher model of Walter for? To teach you about some specific subject?

To be honest with you, when I first took the quiz/saw the advertisements, I really wanted the teacher model of Walter too!

But, I just wanted him to stay home and write all my lesson plans for me. Not actually go to my classroom to teach. ...Because then he might replace me <_<

Actually...I find myself really in need of a Walter android to write my lesson plans now, as I'm spending all my time on this board procrastinating when I should be working on tomorrow's lesson, lol!

I Moon Girl

ChestbursterMember611 XPAug-21-2017 7:10 PM

I took the Walter personality quiz to see which Walter I should get.  The Teacher model was almost a 100% match.  As I looked at the other options, I realized that the Teacher model is actually 100% for me.  The more I thought about it, the more it made sense to me.

I love learning and if I had a Walter model, I know I could learn so much more.  That Teacher model just excites me for that very reason.

I feel AI androids would be similar to the Internet we have today with all of its information.  Like with the internet, you just wouldn't know how awesome it is until you have lived with it.  Nobody is going to return the internet now that they have it because it is so awesome. So, if I had the Walter Teacher model, I see that Walter model as being able to answer my questions and help me with researching the answers to questions and help me research.  Plus, if the Walter can teach, then the Walter should also know how to do the tasks it is teaching.

I see the Teacher model as an extension of today's smartphone, but a million times better because it would be like talking to a person.

VivisectedEngineer

ChestbursterMember725 XPAug-21-2017 7:31 PM

@I Moon Girl

Very good points! It would be very interesting to learn from the Teacher Walter.

Lol, when I took the quiz it said I was most compatible with the therapist Walter. I wonder what that means? Probably that I'm too anxious, lol. 

I remember there was one called the "Adversary" Walter. Lol, who wants that one!? I bet it would be almost just like a David. I think it was meant to be an attorney?

I Moon Girl

ChestbursterMember611 XPAug-21-2017 7:52 PM

@VivisectedEngineer

I don't know how the website decides who we should "buy" when we only answer 4 or 5 questions.  Still, if you think that's you than I am amazed how how the website can get the right model with the right person after 4 or 5 questions!

Hey, if a Therapist Walter is for you, I'd spend that $100,000 dollars on that!  You don't have to tell anyone though.  I guess the Therapist Walter would start its therapy once it hears that your insecure with who you are and your Walter choice and would want to listen to you and hand you worksheets so you can figure out who you are or something.

Honestly though, a Therapist around you all the time could always be there to bring you back to what really matters in life.  There would also be "someone" there to listen to you too and talk about your day with.  That doesn't sound like a bad option either, but I think I would be a little insecure with that decision since I don't want people to know I have a Therapist model.

I think that would make a good movie actually.  The life of an emotionally and possibly mentally unstable person who can function in life, but isn't the best with people.  The android would always be there to help the person see the better side of things.  I think it would actually be a comedy and also a "feel good" movie because it always talks about the most important things that truly matter in life that people tend to take for granted.  Haha, I think it would definitely have some funny parts in it!  I'm not gonna type it out though because I just don't wanna...sorry! 

VivisectedEngineer

ChestbursterMember725 XPAug-21-2017 8:07 PM

@I Moon Girl

That is a very good premise for a movie! I'd watch it!

Actually the quiz was pretty accurate, and I actually do already see a therapist. I wouldn't consider myself insecure though, at least not socially.

I have an anxiety disorder that revolves mostly around irrational guilt - fearing that I'll be responsible for catastrophic harm to another sentient being.

Like: I'll have to retrace my route when driving, because I'll convince myself that I've run someone over. Or, I'll get half-way through making dinner, and then throw all the food away, suddenly believing that the ingredients have become contaminated somehow, that if I feed it to someone they'll be poisoned (this fear only arises when I cook for someone other than myself). The list goes on and on.

I suppose a Therapist Walter could reassure me that such concerns are irrational. Though, it'd be better if I could develop those self-reassurance skills without being dependent on an outside observer.

But, this...poorly wired guilt circuit of mine... is undoubtedly why a series that explores such out of reach themes as being unclouded by conscience, remorse, or delusions of morality provides a welcome escape for me. :)

I Moon Girl

ChestbursterMember611 XPAug-21-2017 8:26 PM

VivisectedEngineer

"Though, it'd be better if I could develop those self-reassurance skills without being dependent on an outside observer."

That's a good point actually.  I went to a therapist once and after I left I said, "I'm not going back," and I never did.  There Therapist Walter did sound interesting to me until the point you made.  Now that model has lost some of it's luster to me.  Still, I would enjoy "someone" who can remind me of the what really matters in life sometimes.  I guess not enough to spend $100,000 dollars on one though.  I still choose the Teacher Walter!

VivisectedEngineer

ChestbursterMember725 XPAug-21-2017 8:43 PM

@I Moon Girl

Well, I think therapists can be very useful, in that, they are meant to teach you practical skills you can apply even when they're not around.

They should be somewhat like teachers.

I think, instead of my therapist trying to talk me out of each of my irrational anxieties individually, it's better if she can teach me how I can talk myself out of them.

So, instead of me coming to her every week and saying "I sneezed on a person 10 years ago, and lately I can't stop worrying that they may have died from it, what do you think?" and having her tell me "It's probably fine." and doing that with each and every one of my problems, it's better if she can teach me methods of not dwelling on potential but improbable catastrophes. 

It's like the "teach-a-man-to-fish" proverb.

Now, if I had a Therapist Walter standing around me 24/7, I'd probably just constantly ask him stuff like: "Hey, did I run over someone back there?" and he'd be like "Nope."

And "Hey, do you think I washed these lentils enough..., I think I didn't wash them enough." and he'd be like "You washed them plenty."

And, I'd just get really dependent on him, and not learn the skills to talk myself down.

But, I think therapists who teach coping skills can be super useful.

I Moon Girl

ChestbursterMember611 XPAug-21-2017 9:11 PM

@VivisectedEngineer

I said no because I felt embarrassed and I just didn't want to spend my money on that.  I have been called cheap before, so maybe that's why I don't want to spend my money on that.

"Well, I think therapists can be very useful, in that, they are meant to teach you practical skills you can apply even when they're not around."

I do agree they can be.  Not that I know from experience, but it just makes sense from reading about their kind of work.

VivisectedEngineer

ChestbursterMember725 XPAug-21-2017 9:43 PM

@I Moon Girl

A therapist is nothing to be embarrassed about :) But, I know what you mean though. I don't tell everyone that I see a therapist. I tell friends but not coworkers. Not cab drivers whom I've just met, either.

Recently I was going to my therapist by cab. My therapist works in a multi-story office building and the driver asked me what kind of appointment I had there.

"A doctor's appointment." I said. And, he was super nosy, asking me what kind/what for. So I just said "Fungus." Mostly because...I was super annoyed at his pushiness and nosiness, lol.

Anyhow, I love how we've once again evolved a conversation about androids into a discussion of philosophy and human psychology.

That is the beauty of Science Fiction.

Good night. :)

 

I Moon Girl

ChestbursterMember611 XPAug-22-2017 12:54 AM

Fungus... haha. I like that answer.

Thoughts_Dreams

NeomorphMember1591 XPAug-24-2017 7:08 AM

Probably Bishop, he seems friendly enough and probably gets things done. Defiantly not David or Ash. Ash was crazy in Alien and what David did to Shaw speaks for itself.

VivisectedEngineer

ChestbursterMember725 XPAug-25-2017 7:54 PM

Thoughts_Dreams

You have a good head on your shoulders. :)

Mud In Your Eye, Pal

OvomorphMember21 XPAug-25-2017 11:09 PM

Ash. Ash can roll up a mean magazine. I hate flies.

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