Alien: Covenant

Am I the only one who likes the 2 prequels, Alien 3 and thinks Aliens is overrated?

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Jay Johns

OvomorphMember39 XPJul-23-2017 1:24 PM

I have been listening and watching trolls for a while now and I am beginning to wonder if anyone has watched the same movies I have? And believe that Neil Blomkamp's idea is really not a good one. NO MORE RIPLEY!!! Please don't forget that there is a queen and alien floating around in space. James, the Roger Corman reject, has developed the idea that these creatures can survive without oxygen. You know, the unoriginal idea of blowing it out of an airlock to end the movie.

31 Responses to Am I the only one who likes the 2 prequels, Alien 3 and thinks Aliens is overrated?

Lawrence of Arabia

ChestbursterMember936 XPJul-23-2017 2:06 PM

No, I love them as well and yeah I think Aliens is a bit overrated. Don't get me wrong, I love Aliens, but fans expect every new film to be exactly like it and if it's not it's crap. I love the prequels and Alien 3 for the nihilism and religious tones. It's an interesting mix for sci-fi/horror. Alien 1 was a bit nihilistic as well. Plus, they are far more compelling stories compared to Aliens (which I think is a great film).

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."


PraetorianModerator2414 XPJul-23-2017 2:49 PM

Alien 3 is my favourite of the Alien films. I like them all, even Resurrection (though I usually skip the Newborn confrontation scene on the Betty lol)


Lawrence of Arabia

ChestbursterMember936 XPJul-23-2017 3:02 PM

I feel like the only one who loves the Newborn XD He was cute and terrifying at the same time. I wish they kept his genitalia lol

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."


TrilobiteMember8212 XPJul-23-2017 5:14 PM

I like the Quadrilogy but the prequels not as much. 1 and 2 are outstanding. 3 was a grower for for me and AR is a good film as well. There are quite a few members who like A3 and I have noticed over the year members giving props to AR. 

I agree about the NB. I also think its death was among the most disturbing in the entire series- Sort of reminded me of an abortion in a way. The NB was scared, in pain and didn't understand what was happening while watching its mother stare it down as it slowly got sucked into the abyss.


PraetorianModerator2414 XPJul-23-2017 5:44 PM

Lawrence of Arabia I appreciated what they tried to do with the Newborn, agreed there are some pretty fearsome scenes with it. I like how much of an abomination it is, it is offensive to look at - I say that in a good way.

But its crotch-thrusting body does freaks me out lol.



Lawrence of Arabia

ChestbursterMember936 XPJul-23-2017 5:52 PM

Yeah, you're not gonna find anyone who likes the prequels here. Ironic considering it's the forum for the film. Best to look elsewhere. 

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."


TrilobiteMember8212 XPJul-23-2017 6:05 PM

Lawrence of Arabia We all like what we like or hate what we hate. If we all agreed about everything this forum would be pointless and boring. 

Im Durp

FacehuggerMember478 XPJul-23-2017 6:08 PM

I liked A:C more than Prometheus, but Aliens is far and away the better film for me. 

Jay Johns

OvomorphMember39 XPJul-23-2017 6:18 PM

I really do hope those at fox decide to atleast finish up the prequels with at 1 more movie. Blomkamp can direct the sequel to The Lone Ranger. Also lets not forget that Weaver was a producer on Alien 3.

Space JOC

OvomorphMember60 XPJul-24-2017 1:03 AM

I loved both of the prequels as well! Watched Covenant for the second time at the weekend and it was excellent,I wasn't too sure when I saw it in the cinema but Fassbender was masterful again, I loved the second viewing after not knowing really what I thought of it in the cinema! Alien is a brilliant film but the rest then are dribble really, Aliens is ok but not great!


OvomorphMember50 XPJul-24-2017 3:52 AM

I dislike the prequels for several reasons, like the sheer stupidity of most characters, the deconstruction of the mythic Space jockey and xenomorph and last but not the least this abomination  called David.

I like Alien 3 because most characters are insane but not stupid. My favorites being Dylan and Morse. Moreover the sacrifice of Ripley is according to me one of the greatest moment of the franchise.

I don't think that aliens is overrated as it has great characters (personnal favorite is Hudson), tries to bring a deeper understanding of the Xenomorph hive, has lot of action, has great score and visuals and was the first movie of the franchise i watched.

I even somehow like Alien Ressurection for its craziness, the hybrid Ripley, the characters and some insane scenes such as the chest burster birth or the xenomorph escape from their pods. I don't really like the newborn as i find it a bit too disgusting. 

And last but not the least i find that some aspects of AVP (the flashback scene especially) and AVP:R (the pragmatism of military at the end and the sheer efficienty of the wolf predator) are quite interesting.

As you can notice, the characters of a movie are very important for me to enjoy it. I strongly dislike stupid and useless characters as for me they make the monster look less frightening and less impressive and they make the whole movie way less entertaining.

Timmy the ultramorph

ChestbursterMember559 XPJul-24-2017 6:49 AM

I love alien 3 so much more than aliens. it just seems like it is a more thoughtful although more deppressing movie. I actually admired its guts to kill of newt and hicks alot. it also has sigorny weavers best alien proformance in my opinion. 

food ain't that bad! - Parker


OvomorphMember85 XPJul-24-2017 7:06 AM

"Yeah, you're not gonna find anyone who likes the prequels here." - LOL

I watched the films in release order and Alien 1979 was the best.

Then Prometheus got the place and now Covenant is my favorite of all.The only thing I dislike is the ending.


OvomorphMember29 XPJul-24-2017 7:46 AM

The thing is, each movie is of a different genre, therefore naturally there will be division of fans about which is preferred.

Alien:  Sci-fi/Horror
Aliens: Sci-fi/Action
Alien3: Slow-burning horror
AR: Sci-fi/Comedy/Horror
AVP: Action/Thriller
Prometheus: Sci-fi
AC: Horror

No two are of the same specific genre. It is little wonder then that the movies are recieved differently by audiences. In answer to the OP's question, I personally really like the prequels - Alien Covenant in particular which has became my favourite of them all - mainly due to the cast/characters which I thought were superb. I've read so much hate regarding the characters of AC which I don't fully understand as I found them real and engaging, but each to their own - different strokes for different folks as they say :) 'Aliens' for me hasn't aged well and has became one of the weaker installments over time; but I prefer dialogue over action so that's to be expected.

"Is that a question Sir?"


ChestbursterMember511 XPJul-24-2017 9:56 AM

No, you are definitely not the only one who thinks this Jay Johns.

Ridley's movies and Alien3 are at the top of my list. Love em. I had to make myself like Aliens after seeing it in the theater, but it is so dated in that cheesy 1980's Rambo action movie genre that I find it hard to watch now.

Alien 3 got back on track to the horror that Ridley and Co. created in the original, and the assembly cut made it even better. Resurrection never quite worked for me, so I ignore that one, and those awful AVP things.


ChestbursterMember907 XPJul-24-2017 11:34 AM

Definitely agree Aliens is the worst of the bunch. I really cannot even sit through it any more. An epitome of the "Big 80's".


XenomorphMember1303 XPJul-24-2017 2:12 PM

Aliens is a moron movie. I mean you cannot even look for flaws because there are only flaws. I only liked 1 minute of it, with the aliens swarming in the dark when the colonial marines entered their nest. Man, I cannot watch Newt screaming again. So terrible.

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

Timmy the ultramorph

ChestbursterMember559 XPJul-24-2017 3:19 PM

I enjoyed aliens, its just not really what I would call a great movie. I could watch alien 3 about 20 times and each time I would see a new religuiuos referance, or philisophecal question. 

food ain't that bad! - Parker


XenomorphMember1303 XPJul-24-2017 3:21 PM

Alien 3 revived the franchise after the genocide from Aliens. Alien 3 had a sort of medieval sense of isolation and in means of confronting the Alien, it was as medievally good as GoT. The dog alien was way better than the ant queen. I liked this movie since the first viewing in theater.

"He survived, he’s now in Disneyland in Orlando, and no way am I going back there. How did he end up in Disneyland? I saw him in Disneyland, Jesus Christ!"

Lawrence of Arabia

ChestbursterMember936 XPJul-24-2017 3:39 PM

I'm glad I'm not the only one to enjoy (and understand) what Ridley's doing with the prequels :) Sorry guys for being a bit melodramatic but the incessant hate coming from some of the fans is overwhelming sometimes. Like, instead of looking to see what Ridley's trying to portray all you hear is what you didn't want. I'm glad we aren't getting Neil's Aliens 2 as I feel it would dumb the franchise down as opposed to Ridley embracing the legacy so far.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."


PraetorianModerator2414 XPJul-24-2017 3:56 PM

Lawrence of Arabia I agree. I think the rumour that fox were going to re-evaluate the future of the franchise has frustrated a lot of us fans.

Prometheus has grown on me in time, and is now probably third behind Alien3 and Alien as a favourite. In time I think Covenant will do the same. I still think that after Awakening we will look back on Covenant and appreciate/understand it all the better.

I do hope that FOX just take a step back and trust Ridley Scott's vision though.

Lawrence of Arabia

ChestbursterMember936 XPJul-24-2017 4:03 PM

IRaptus I concur. I've enjoyed the journey thus far and it would be a shame if his story was rushed or compromised. I really hope Fox let's the artist do his thing and that THR was just shaking the cage.

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."


OvomorphMember15 XPJul-24-2017 6:55 PM

 Hey im with you i thought i was the only one who love alien covenant and prometheus,  they both with alien are my favorites, yes i kinda like alien 3 and alien resurection a little , and really like aliens but i think is overrated to.  


OvomorphMember29 XPJul-24-2017 8:14 PM

ALIEN,Covenant,Alien 3,Aliens....Didn't like Ressurection at all.


Timmy the ultramorph

ChestbursterMember559 XPJul-24-2017 9:17 PM

this is pretty much the order of the alien films for me. best to worst.

1: alien 1979. it is a perfect movie. it is the best movie ever made in my opinion and it could not be better.

2: alien 3: although I liked it slightly less than alien, I really can't understand why any real fan of the alien franchise would dislike it. killing of newt and hicks that the alien universe is unpredictible and fair. also the religious context is amazing. ( assembally cut even better)

3: covenant. there were definatly some flaws but the neomorphs were awesome, david and walter were great, and so was the acting. My only huge issue was that it was way to short and should have built more suspense. 

4: prometheous. its an amazing looking film that took alot of risks not showing the aliens at all, probably expanded the universe even more than aliens but the chareters were really stupid and I did want too see just a bit more with the engineers and the deacon.

5: aliens. I do not consider this a bad film, it just dosn't fit the tone of the series. it reduses the aliens to shoot um ups and fammilierizes their species.

6: alien ressurection. As far as i am consered it dosent exist and is a high bujet fan movie.

food ain't that bad! - Parker

Im Durp

FacehuggerMember478 XPJul-24-2017 9:34 PM

If we're just listing the movies in order of preference.

Aliens>Alien>Alien 3>Alien Covenant>Prometheus>Alien Resurrection


If we throw in the AVP movies the first one is between A3 and Prometheus, AVPR is dead last.

Timmy the ultramorph

ChestbursterMember559 XPJul-24-2017 9:56 PM

also, the dog alien expanded the universe so much in terms of comics and toy lines

food ain't that bad! - Parker


FacehuggerMember457 XPJul-25-2017 3:44 AM

Sadly, Alien 3 is a bit of a mess, due to its production woes, salvaged to a degree by the special edition. And the stop-motion animation is pretty unforgivable - it ruins an otherwise enjoyable movie.


ChestbursterMember511 XPJul-25-2017 7:34 AM

Completely redeemed by the assembly cut, in my opinion. It was a far better "Alien" film that Aliens was.

Also, there is no stop motion animation in Alien 3. It was all rod puppet work against blue screen. With the exception of two really badly composited shots, the rod puppet work was actually quite good for the time period.


OvomorphMember22 XPJul-25-2017 8:13 AM

"Look, I'm just a geologist. I like rocks. I LOVE... rocks." -Prometheus

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