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blade runner and alien connected?

blade runner and alien connected?

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Timmy the ultramorph

ChestbursterMember559 XPJul-19-2017 10:38 PM

first of all check out this video about  the subject.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhKxcW4yNxc

I personally would really like for that to come true although last time alien crossed over with a different franchise, we got avp.

There is is some issues with the theory though. for example: in blade runner there is a bunch of colony ships sending the majority of the human population to live on other planets. that is 2019. then in covenant, they say that they are the first ever large scale colonization mission ever. that is more than 100 years later. also, the androids in blade runner are more advanced than thealien androids more than 100 years later. this could possibly be so that the company could tell apart the androids from the humans without that weird test that they do in blade runner. 

The only reson i am really giving any thought to this theory is that blade runner has been without a sequel sinse 1982 and they just so happen to start to make a sequel during the same year as an alien movie. it just seems to big of a coincidence. even more is that ridley scott is being the executive producer for the new blade runner. another thing that i thought was interesting was That alien covenant had ay more " can androids be human?", and other philisophical themes similar to blade runner. at the theaters, they even showed  the new blade runnerstrailer right befor the movie.

i personally think that when blade runner 2049 comes out, there there will be a midway twist in the movie were the 2 franchises will connect into a single timeline. 

let me know what you think.

 

food ain't that bad! - Parker

7 Responses to blade runner and alien connected?

Timmy the ultramorph

ChestbursterMember559 XPJul-19-2017 10:50 PM

also, the new trailer for blade runner 2049 just came out. her it is.https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dZOaI_Fn5o4 

 you may know that shot from the first trailer were it looks like there is an engineer in the glass container. well go to the 42 second mark and there is a shot just looming in on the possible engineer. coincidence. i think not.

 

food ain't that bad! - Parker

Timmy the ultramorph

ChestbursterMember559 XPJul-19-2017 11:01 PM

also, the very first shot of the trailer is literally the same shot as the opening shot of alien covenant. an extreme closup of a bright blue eye. 

here is a different theory. the tyrell corperatins androids evolved into engineers who then rose way aovie us.

food ain't that bad! - Parker

George-TheGreek

OvomorphMember39 XPJul-20-2017 5:18 AM

Only one connection, 'do androids dream of electric sheep?'. Can A.I. become self aware and develop human traits?

Kethol

ChestbursterMember511 XPJul-20-2017 8:46 AM

The timelines and technology are not consistent for these to be the same universe.

We have the first David model synthetic in 2026, but they don't become visually and emotionally indistinguishable from humans until much later, and are not being used for off-world to work until 2068.

Yet in the Blade Runner universe of 2018 we already have replicants working offworld 50 years earlier. David 8, the most advanced model in the Alien universe, is created in 2090. Yet in the Blade Runner universe we already have flesh and blood synthetics 72 years earlier. They are also nearly indistinguishable from humans. So much so that we need to have special police trained to hunt them.

Sure, the technology between competing companies can take a while to catch up to each other, but that would just be a few years. Weyland and Tyrell are not even close after 72 years? I don't think so.

These are different universes. Different movie studios too, so they will not cross over.

 

ali81

NeomorphMember1823 XPJul-20-2017 9:01 AM

I agree I don't think they r meant to be in the same universe though the similarities concerning AI is intriguing. I don't mind having alien and predator in the same universe though id scrap the events of avp and avpr. its possible weyland r aware of both species but I wouldn't have the 2 species having encounters with each other yet

BigDave

DeaconMember10416 XPJul-20-2017 5:55 PM

I think RS will be just linking them in a Easter Egg kind of way but show us the Themes are Very Connected.

What happened to the Replicants is happening to David 8, and also maybe what happened to the Engineers on LV-223, but its not to say they are directly going to connect as indeed as Kethol states the Time-Lines do not add up.

The Technologies in Blade Runner are more Advanced Time-wise,  we have indeed found and colonized other worlds way before the year 2019,  the World of Blade Runner seems to match that of the Alien Timeline at least 50 years prior.

so there is a good 50-75 year kind of Technology gap.

As far as how Advanced the Replicants are.. and how it could fit with the Alien Franchise, it could do but its not to say it will.

You see Replicants are just Genetically Engineered and Modified Humans, Clones who are evolved Genetically, their Genomes evolved to make them immune to Illness and Diseases of Mankind, they are Engineered to be Faster, Stronger too, but they are not intended to Replace Mankind but to Serve a Purpose.

They are in effect created for the same reasons that David was created, i think its more plausible that Science could Genetically Engineer Super Humans more easier than creating Synthetic Androids who look like David 8

But as Replicants are in effect Modified Humans, they have the ability over time to evolve Emotionally, which is a concern for Tyrell and hence the Nexus 6 Built in limited Life Span.  Some Replicants started to see themselves as more than just TOOLS created to serve Mankind.  Hence the Rebellion in 2017

The New Movie seems to be going the route that Deckard could be a different Model Replicant who lacks the Super Strength and Speed, but has Emotions and Memories of a Human.  Seems maybe the Nexus 8 (Engineer looking beings) are a new Crop who have the Strengths of the Nexus 6 Models but without the limited Life-Span.

So in THEORY... indeed Replicants could be created before Advanced Androids, and it  is the Problems of the Replicants that would allow companies to then consider scraping these and instead pursuing Synthetic Androids instead.

so its a interesting Contrast.... because Replicants are very similar to Luke Scotts 2016 Movie Morgan where as David 8 is more like AVA from  Ex Machina 2014

We can see how Mankind could go from ditching Super Humans, in return for Androids, and the Alien Franchise is starting to show us that in Hubris.. Mankind should Ditch the Synthetic Androids and only use more simple and basic Robots instead.

I think the Engineers could connect by Theme, in that maybe the Sacrificial Engineer/LV-223 Engineers are to the Engineers what indeed Morgan/Replicants are to Humans.  If they go this route i think it certainly be interesting in the Alien Franchise.

Its kind of what the Source hinted to me 2.5 years ago.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10416 XPJul-20-2017 6:07 PM

As far as David 8 goes, i think he connects to Rachael in Blade Runner... in a way...

The opening Scene in Alien Covenant is likely in 2025, the first David and as the Prototype, Weyland when he advances the Technology has the Prototypes Memories and Experiences uploaded to the next Prototype...   And so David 8 has been the last incarnation of that Personal David since 2070, where a 2 year trial of David 8's was tested before taking Pre-Orders in December 2072

This is why i think Blade Runner and Alien are not in the same Timeline.... Weyland wants to be Immortal, and its my long time theory that Weylands Agenda with David  was that if Weyland could one day be able to transfer his own Soul into a AI Program and upload it to a David Model, then Weyland would have conquered Death and been Immortal

Yet in the Blade Runner Universe Mankind has had a way to transfer a Humans Memories into Replicants and so WHY would Weyland want to Pursue his own AI and ambition to Meet the Engineers, when its possible he could indeed as far as Blade Runner goes... transfer his Memories into a Clone or Replicant

I think the movies are similar only in terms of how they deal with Creation/AI   The Source from 2.5 years ago said that the Prometheus 2 would touch upon themes and be similar to Blade Runner and The Matrix.  And i think to a degree AC has touched upon these a little...  So it will be interesting to see how the Engineers fit within the Blade Runner/Matrix kind of PLOT.

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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