the 2 xeno embryos david has

ali81

im curious as to how people theorise how he is going to use these. is he going to surgically plant them within a Cpl of sleeping colonists?any theories?

Daszkowski

I think he will clone them to have as many embryos as possible.

drucea

I've been wondering how those can be used.  They basically looked like miniature facehuggers in a snowglobe.  Does it need to be placed into an egg to grow/incubate?  Or is this similar to what a regular facehugger deposits into a host (except resulting in a facehugger/chestburster)?

Anergy

Then God told David, “Come out of the Covenant. And bring the facehuggers with you so they can be fruitful and multiply and fill the earth.” So David and his family came out with all the facehuggers

chli

I don't think it was a coincidence that he brought two - one for Daniels and one for Tennessee . . .

ali81

true n now that they r both in hyper sleep he can wake them 1 at a time. he must have something else planned for the colonists and embryos perhaps

sherris

I think this whole film was just the beginning of Davids brilliant and intricate plan (which may or may not work out)

The work in the lab was training for what is to come. He has been cross breeding and hybridising and will also have found the knowledge and somehow practised this, around the Embryos, ready for the big day when he plays for real.

Which will be A:Awakening no doubt.

David may of hatched this whole plan with prior knowledge of The Covenant colony mission. Both Weyland missions, Covenant was in the planning stages before Prometheus embarked. Also the novel lets us know David is in contact with WY and MAY of always been ?

Starlogger

If David DID know about Covenant, then why did he act somewhat surprised, though very excited, to hear of the colonists back on the main ship when the drop ship crew first spoke with him inside of the Engineer citadel?

ali81

I doubt he has played any part in the covenant having to change course as I agree, I think he was some what surprised with their arrival and the news of the colonists. he doesn't arrive until after the dropship explodes which is what attracted him to the scene. I believe he is expecting someone to arrive eventually but not as quickly as the covenant crew. if he has the means to communicate with the company im sure he would have come up with a more elaborate lie to get them to send a ship rather than just rely on the weak signal of shaw to get a passing ships attention

Brian51

This is yet another example of how bad this film is...somehow David is able to miniaturize the facehugger and then preserve it in some glass encasement? Ugh.

ali81

brian, yea im kinda on the same side of the fence as urself. we don't get a great tour of the citadel but from what I saw of it and davids lab, I wonder if he had the technology to accomplish such complex procedures. I dislike the film for other reasons but things like this just add to my disappointment in the overall film

sherris

Starlogger - 

It was scarcasm and lies

David says: "Really ?" , ..."So many good SOULS"

ali81

sherries, yea u can almost imagine david standing in this scene, closing his eyes and shaking his head saying 'so many good (yet soon to be f****d poor b*****s, id better get my things together) souls' lol

sherris

Ali81 - 

If a neutrino burst or whatever it was happened and David had NOTHING to do with it, then that would mean that The Covenant, a weyland ship, comes across a hidden perfect planet which happens to be the planet that David is on. A Weyland A.I and that is by chance ?

IMO The story that David had NOTHING to do with it is the one i would wuestion. That is just poor writing surely ?

I honestly think David planned all of this. The "Rescue ?" Why not let them all die, meet Walter then go to the ship. No. It had to happen a certain way for the plan to go "Perfect". AC for me was David acting out his masterplan tbc..

sherris

Ali81 - Lol YES that is exactly what he was thinking !! ;);)

ali81

sherries, how does he create the neutrino burst? or an explosion that when investigated would pass off as a neutrino burst?

sherris

That im not sure of yet.

I believe it is something to do with the Engineer technology. He did something that leads to a chain reaction or to an event which is processed by The Covenant as a solar flare. 

Making it look an accident.

The easy answer is MUTHUR is onside with David and told the crew it was a solar flare when it was actually something else that David concocted. However if i had to say either way, i lean towards David causing it and MUTHUR reported the facts as she saw them ?

Just a theory

ali81

having MUTHUR as a sleeper agent bad girl AI would be an awesome twist lol

Gralen

First we must make clear how the "facehugger" metabolism works.

From what we can see the embryos are very small and can NOT implant their DNA into a host yet. They are simply too small/weak to attach themself to a human or any life form.

The other question is how they get covered by that egg-shell to make them grow bigger & durable+dormant for many years.

I think the obvious answer is Daniels.

BigDave

I wont contribute to the What David knew what the Company does at this point, as i want to concentrate my reply only on the Face Huggers.

Firstly... indeed Brian51 its a bit of Bad Writing  but as with a lot of Bad Written Plot Points which include in Prometheus.. many are there for a easier way to drive a Plot.

It was just convenient that David got Small Face Huggers, that just by Coinsidence could fit inside the Embryo Pods from the Covenant... as we see Walter removed some, i can only assume the capsules Walter had on him...  but then WHY carry them on him.... maybe this could go into a secret company/AI Agenda where Walter had Programing he was not aware of? Who knows.

But regardless i think we need to look at now David has TWO Embryos... i feel this is flawed and having TWO Xenomorph Embryos would have made more Sense.....

But i guess RS/FOX want to go the route of showing us someone getting Face Hugged all over again.

So a lot depends where they are going with how THESE Face Huggers lead to the THOUSANDS of Eggs on the Derelict... If they eventually do.

The Franchise has showed us TWO Procreation Methods..

1) Alien DC.. The Egg Morph

2) Aliens... The Queen

We can and have before Speculated how a Queen came about, my personal theory is the Egg Morph = Queen, but i think RS will no be going the Queen Route, and i feel he wants to put his own Stamp and so i think a Egg Morph route or similar could come into play.

The other Option is if David has Tools on the Covenant to experiment with the Face Huggers and Clone or Genetically incorporate their DNA into the other Embryos.  I think this is a possible route they could take too.

The Black Goo indeed could be used on those Face Huggers and then Humans to create more Organisms, but i dont think they will show David returning to Planet 4, maybe he is concerned over Walter but i would assume Walter is so incapacitated to be a threat.... unless he was just out for long enough to steal his clothes.

David clearly is in no Danger from the Organisms on Planet 4, as he had conducted a lot of experiments with no consequences to himself.

David could go to LV-223 to get more Urns, but then surely he has enough stuff on Planet 4 and so why not go there again... The only THING David lacks is a Juggernaught Ship..  maybe thats a reason to go to LV-223

But i feel RS will be showing us that David heads to Origae-6, the Question is during the 7 years what would David be up to?

hox

@BigDave, David was lacking the 'essential ingredient' in making a xenomorph embryo. It makes more sense to have facehugger embryos to hand, as was the case in the movie. These specimens could have been prepared years earlier.

Michart

from the very beginning, when I first saw the Covenant, when David spews out the embryos of the facial hugs, I thought David was their father, he gave birth to them in his biomechanical body. and now these facehuggers may give birth to a biomechanical version of the xenomorph.

Xenotaris

Maybe David will turn into a Xenomorph King

Thoughts_Dreams

I hope not, it's too much about David already.

Xenotaris

well we need to finish David's story arc somehow also the introduction of a new (or at the very least a movie canon version of an expanded universe caste) xenomorph caste