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Is David the xenomorph whisperer? Organic Matter Question:

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Roger55

MemberChestbursterJul-07-2017 7:14 PM

It's easy to argue that aliens aren't interested in androids because they don't really have a lot of delicious edible parts, so if you're a synthetic being, you pretty much get a xenomorph hall pass. But why are the xenomorphs David is cultivating strangely loyal to him? Not only do they seem to respect him, but the whole baby-xenomorph-mimicry deal demonstrates that somewhere, deep in their biology, this cycle of aliens in some way sees David as a leader, or at the very least, one of the only living things that's not worth immediately killing—which is really saying something when you're an animal designed only for killing.

We know xenomorphs don't imprint on the first thing they see like many Earth animals, so how does David automatically have this dominion over the beasts?

Question Source: http://www.looper.com

Organic Matter Question:

He grows eggs inside itself and expels them by his mouth, Is David part organic or synthetic, or mutated in a different being? What do you think?

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VivisectedEngineer

MemberChestbursterJul-07-2017 8:02 PM

Good question Roger55!

Xenomorphs usually aren't particularly interested in eating synthetics, but Bishop was pretty savagely attacked by the Xeno queen, which makes David's command over them pretty impressive.

 

I'm not sure what David has done to gain this control, but since he's the one engineering them, maybe coded something into their DNA which makes them less likely to attack synthetics? Maybe he communicates with them through pheromones? Or maybe it's just that, so far, none of them have had any incentive to attack him.

 

Also, I don't think he grew those embryos inside himself. He just grew them in his lab then hid them inside his body to sneak them on board the ship.

 

Why not in his pocket? Maybe he can maintain the correct incubation temperature for the embryos inside his body, or maybe he's just a weird dude and he thought that'd be a cool thing to do.

auximenes

MemberFacehuggerJul-07-2017 11:30 PM

He mentioned that the Neomorphs could be imprinted on him by blowing air on them, so, he is aware of the concept while working on his Protomorph.

ali81

MemberNeomorphJul-08-2017 12:24 AM

the fact the both bishop and walter were attacked definitely suggests david has some other knowledge that gives him an advantage where the aliens r concerned. but I believe david simply used himself to carry and smuggle the embryos onto the covenant. I don't believe he is incubating or growing them inside himself as he lacks, imo, the nutrients required, as wev seen that the embryo takes these from their host to develop. he may well have placed the embryos inside himself when he learned of the covenant crew as his body temperature would sustain them in suspended animation but only for a short time until he got them onto the covenant and placed them in the required freezing chamber

Merlinamagus

MemberOvomorphJul-08-2017 6:09 AM

The question must be asked as to how David knew the exact size and dimensions that the facehugger embryo's needed to be to fit in the special embryo drawers of the Covenant. Also... where did he get the gel that surrounds the embryos and how come it looks identical to the gel surrounding the human embryos that were no doubt packaged up on Earth. Little things like this explained would make all the difference. Ridders is an amazing visual director, as in really amazing; but he's a pretty naff storyteller what with his lust for pacing and leaving out essential/interesting story elements as a result. It saddens me that the best version of Prometheus (by a long way) is the Agent 9 fan edit. The best version surely should be the directors original? But nevertheless... Ridders is ploughing on and fair play to him for it considering his age. Shortcomings aside it's still an exciting ride at this moment in time for us Alien fans :)

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VivisectedEngineer

MemberChestbursterJul-08-2017 8:13 AM

@Merlinamagus

Well, David knows about Weyland corp technology (I mean...he is Weyland corp technology), and he's worked on a Weyland ship before. So that might be why he knows the right dimensions for an embryo freezer.

 

As for where he got the substrate that the embryos were stored in...well, he had unrestricted access to everything on Planet 4 for the past 10 years. He probably gathered up a bunch of science stuff from various places.

A race of genetic engineers having the necessary materials to store embryos seems pretty believable to me.

cuponator3000

MemberChestbursterJul-08-2017 10:27 AM

"or maybe he's just a weird dude and he thought that'd be a cool thing to do." - VivisectedEngineer

That might describe how the writers were thinking! BUT I would guess David figured that no one could accidentally find the embryos/he wouldn't lose them if they were inside of him.

But back to the op's question, I don't know. I mean, we know he engineered them to have a pretty extreme growth rate and what not, so he probably had the ability and tools to engineer them to recognize him as friendly/their leader. I feel like them seeing him as a leader or one of them is too far fetched, but if he had time to calmly interact with one, maybe he could make friends?

Remember though, the adult protomorph that was running around on the covenant saw him on the video monitor and attacked the image, so I don't know. I guess it makes sense, since he didn't get to imprint on it (if that is actually what happened before.) 

Last chance at making sense of the protomorph behavior in the chesburst scene: Since the protomorph was seconds old, growing, learning of it's world, and super vulnerable, it was just the perfect form something real cutsy lol.

Either way, it was just a really cinematic kind of thing. David, the creator (or recreator, whatever) of this beast and now the catalyst of the subsequent Alien films really (sort of), with his creation. Sort of connects everything and tells us how it is. 

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Lawrence of Arabia

MemberChestbursterJul-08-2017 1:57 PM

"or maybe he's a weird dude and he thought that'd be a cool thing to do." - VivisectedEngineer

That is hilarious lmao I'm gonna stick to that reasoning

"The trick, William Potter, is not minding that it hurts."

Merlinamagus

MemberOvomorphJul-08-2017 2:44 PM

@VivisectedEngineer Nice one, many thanks for your explanation - makes a lot of sense. I just wish that little details like that were shown/clarified, even if just a few seconds shot of the process. Having said that I suppose that would take away the shock-factor of what David has done when we see it. Ha, I think I'm simply wishing for a 'documentary' about the whole Alien Universe - as in a proper scientific documentary as though it is a real place :)

"Is that a question Sir?"

VivisectedEngineer

MemberChestbursterJul-08-2017 8:32 PM

@Lawrence of Arabia

Lol! Well, you have to admit, he is a pretty weird dude.

@Merlinamagus

Oh man, I would love a documentary about the Alien universe. I'd especially enjoy learning more about the Synthetics in general.

...Like, I saw David eating oatmeal or something, and I saw Ash drinking something that looked like milk (or similar to Android blood? Maybe they run low and need to replenish?)

Just...what are they eating and why do they eat it!?

auximenes

MemberFacehuggerJul-08-2017 10:09 PM

We didn't see all of David's movements and actions aboard the Covenant. His access to MUTHUR would have allowed him to immediately locate empty cases he could use to slip his two smuggled embryos into after which he swallowed them for safe keeping until he got everybody under control and could then deposit the embryos for the journey.

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