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I request immortality because I have done the things God does.

I request immortality because I have done the things God does.

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Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPJun-17-2017 10:21 AM

I request immortality because I have done the things God does.

Peter Weyland’s request to the Engineer on LV-223 was to be saved from death. In short, supposedly David spoke to the Engineer on behalf of Peter Weyland and said I request immortality because I have done the things God does. 

Peter Weyland had harnessed humanity’s technology to bring himself to face the Engineer on LV-223 to be saved from death and the request for more time was turned down by the Engineer in a very clear fashion.

Leading up to this point of contact with the Engineers, the symbolism of a Deity is embedded across Peter Weyland’s corporate symbols and technology, see below.

The pyramid cross symbol is shown clearly at David’s birth (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AZ35p5nXMVQ&list=LLwyNYNcR59pbLUGn4_qhx8Q) and in the beginning of the event when the Covenant sails are deployed.

I’ve included a segment from the Alien: Engineers script below that provides background related to what we saw in Prometheus. I show the symbols above displayed in Alien: Covenant and the Prometheus viral marketing below in relation to the symbol of the Deity (Pyramid Cross).

 

The Pyramid Cross 

“A group of Crosses among Niven's collection of Mexican tablets is especially interesting. I have called them the Pyramid Crosses because they are designed on the lines of a pyramid. They are the cosmogony of a pyramid illustrated by a cross. 

The four arms are composed of four triangles corresponding with the four sides of a pyramid. The points of these triangles are covered with the monotheistic symbol of the Deity. The base of a pyramid is square; the four triangles brought together form a square. (page 73)” 

(Source: http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/ssm/ssm06.htm)

"We are the gods now." 

Peter Weyland made his ambition no secret. In 2023, Weyland spoke of creation in "we can create cybernetic individuals who, in just a few short years, will be completely indistinguishable from us."

Alien: Engineers (Script by Jon Spaihts, beginning page 11, names reconciled to Prometheus)

Peter Weyland (CONT’D)

You know how I got this rich? I ask myself: what does God spend his time doing? And I go and do that. Dr. Elizabeth Shaw laughs incredulously. Stifles it. Weyland’s not joking. 

Peter Weyland (CONT’D) Biotechnology was good to me. Fusion power. Lately doing well with gravity systems. He swivels his chair toward the window. Earth shines outside. 

Peter Weyland (CONT’D)

But what’s the first thing God did? 

 

Dr. Elizabeth Shaw

He made the Heaven and the Earth. 

Weyland jabs a finger at her like she’s won a carnival prize. 

 

Peter Weyland

That’s what I’m talking about. You left out my favorite part. The piece about Earth. David. 

 

David

For eons, Earth’s climate swung from hothouse to ice age. Explosions of life, then mass extinctions. But twelve thousand years ago the swings stopped. The Holocene Epoch began - a period of anomalous tranquility. The rise of civilization began only then. Holloway and Watts stare at DAVID with new appreciation. 

 

Dr. Charlie Holloway 

That’s right. 

 

Dr. Elizabeth Shaw
And that change coincides with a visit by the Engineers. They didn’t just change us. They changed our world. 

 

Peter Weyland
That’s the piece I mean.

Engineering Earth. God stuff

Peter Weyland had conquered disease, reversed global warming and created clean air, opened communication across languages (babel), and created an army of cybernetic individuals indistinguishable from humans.

Peter Weyland had conquered the babel that was different languages spoken of in Genesis 11, The Tower of Babel.

Genesis 11:1-9 New International Version (NIV)

The Tower of Babel

11 Now the whole world had one language and a common speech. 2 As people moved eastward,[a] they found a plain in Shinar[b] and settled there.

3 They said to each other, “Come, let’s make bricks and bake them thoroughly.” They used brick instead of stone, and tar for mortar. 4 Then they said, “Come, let us build ourselves a city, with a tower that reaches to the heavens, so that we may make a name for ourselves; otherwise we will be scattered over the face of the whole earth.”

5 But the Lord came down to see the city and the tower the people were building. 6 The Lord said, “If as one people speaking the same language they have begun to do this, then nothing they plan to do will be impossible for them. 7 Come, let us go down and confuse their language so they will not understand each other.”

8 So the Lord scattered them from there over all the earth, and they stopped building the city. 9 That is why it was called Babel[c]—because there the Lord confused the language of the whole world. From there the Lord scattered them over the face of the whole earth.

I request immortality as wages for my works.

Peter Weyland's plan to harness immortality from these works did not work out. That does not mean that what he built did not continue on a new course, see below.

 

8 Responses to I request immortality because I have done the things God does.

Ripleys_Ghost

FacehuggerMember210 XPJun-17-2017 10:33 AM

Pretty interesting topic.  +1 for that, and for all the research that you did.

I saw a parallel between Weyland's search for life extension, and Batty's same desire in Blade Runner ("I want more life, f...er").  Both meet their maker, but come up empty.

I Moon Girl

ChestbursterMember611 XPJun-17-2017 11:42 AM

Very interesting.  I didn't know Weyland did those things.  Still, I wonder what his competition was doing.  How hard did Weyland actually have to work to succeed in the things he did? How much research did he pull from others? Actually, I wouldn't be surprised if Weyland just funded some of the things he "did".  He may have started one thing, succeeded at it, made a whole bunch of money, and then started investing in people who just needed money to finish their research.  Of course, the amount of money needed would be huge, which would explain why other people didn't fund it (or maybe they funded other people and Weyland's team won the race?) 

The world Peter Weyland lives in is lacking in information for me to decide what Peter Weyland actually did, or funded, since we know of no competition.  All we see is Weyland himself claiming what he has done.  Surely he didn't do everything he said he did on his own.

Ripleys_Ghost

FacehuggerMember210 XPJun-17-2017 12:05 PM

This is in a hypothetical era wherein corporations are more powerful and larger than entire governments.  Weyland Corp (and/or Weyland Yutani) even has its own military.  With that kind of power, you rack up a lot wealth (and control) just from military campaigns.  Anything that you can take over is yours (the spoils), and you can tax/enslave the losing side as you wish.  This is the dark side of the world of Alien (and Blade Runner).  There are stunning towers, ships and technology, but it all comes at a huge cost.

@tdby2: space squirt

LOL

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPJun-17-2017 1:46 PM

Ingeniero, brilliant article - as usual. I'd like to add some relevant concept art images of the Covenant ship and the number of the topic:

//www.alien-covenant.com/topic/45472

I Moon Girl

ChestbursterMember611 XPJun-17-2017 1:57 PM

@Ripleys_Ghost

Where is that explained in a story?  I would like to read it since I don't know much about the Alien universe myself.

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPJun-17-2017 3:23 PM

Ati, thank you so much for the compliment. You are wonderful. I hadn't seen the Covenant-ship concept art...amazing. Thank you again for that too.

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPJun-17-2017 3:27 PM

Thank you Ripleys_Ghost. That is a perfect comparison to Blade Runner regarding the wish for more time. I had thought of that too. Eldon Tyrell got his robe stained for the wrong answer to that question.

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPJun-17-2017 3:29 PM

You're correct tdby2. The Engineers really get the short straw in both Prometheus and Alien: Covenant. It was a real bummer for them when David 8 showed up to Paradise while pouting.

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