S1m0n
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2017 7:45 AMSo it looks like it was not the engineers home world in covenant and we could be seeing more of the engineers.
Nice little article.
I hope some of this is true and we see the engineers again and see what David has done and they do not like that he has created beings similar to what they have created. Maybe he has been working for the engineers all the long. ?
S1m0n
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2017 7:51 AMwell in the graphic novel Alien: fire and stone, the black good was introduced into an android and had some strange effects.
sherris
MemberChestbursterJun-08-2017 8:15 AMAAAAAARRRRGHH!!
Last night, after hearing about the prequel novel, i decided my time spent on this franchise was wasted. It was beyond repair.
Now this little nugget turns up and my head is saying "forget it" but my heart is saying: It is a sign! "there might be a chance here...."
Im will watch a:c again tonight. Sucker for love
Take This.... This is the blood of our lord
S1m0n
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2017 8:21 AMCovenant was a good movie for what it was.
What is annoying people is how off track it has went, we wanted substance and story, not alien bursting out of chest.
I would love to write a script or a story for the next movie and give it to RC . Would be excellent.
EWATYAMORPH
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2017 8:53 AMThe paradise Ridley was talking about may well have been the world where David dropped the pathogen on. In the Novelisation it is spoken of as a perfect paradise like place, and before David dropped the pathogen and ruined the place and also experimented on all existing fauna before he run out of living things to experiment on, I bet it really was like paradise.
David refers to the inhabitants of this world (the Engineers) as the "original Engineers", so even if it was not there "homeworld" it is certainly a place where a large population of the original Engineers resided and could have been a paradise like place for certain peaceful type Engineers to dwell.
With their robes etc it seems they were like the Sacrificial Engineer from Prometheus. I wonder if this paradise like world was for Engineers to dwell on and the Elders that we see in the extended Prometheus opening scenes could visit and pick willing individuals for sacrifice to seed new worlds.
These Engineers would have worshipped the Elders and maybe even hoped to be "chosen" for the ultimate sacrifice.
I wholeheartedly believe that we haven't seen the last of the Engineers and I hope we see more of the peaceful type and also especially the dangerous military type LV-223 Engineers, who I think will be furious with mankind and it's creation (David) taking all the liberties they have/he has been taking.
There may well be more Engineers where David is headed and that would definitely help make the next movie/s a hit as I've seen loads of people (like myself) who were very frustrated at the lack of Engineer involvement in Covenant.
Kethol
MemberChestbursterJun-08-2017 9:15 AMIn Covenant we only saw one city on this planet, and it did not look that technologically advanced, other than the dock for the Juggernaut. I assumed this was just another outpost world, not the Engineers homeworld. The novelization really does not make it clear one way or the other.
I hope this planet was not just a simplified version of the original Engineers homeworld from the abandoned Paradise script. What Damon described may have been the intended next movie, but all that may have permanently been tossed out the window when Ridley caved to the 'I want more aliens and facehuggers' crowd and dropped most of the Engineer storyline in favor of what we got in Covenant.
Gralen
MemberFacehuggerJun-08-2017 9:50 AMMakes sense.
Planet 4 had way too less buildings/surface structures/orbital structures to be considered as a homeworld of a species which has experience in space travel for millions of years.
Not even sure if the canon will switch back and declare these beings as NOT Engineers. But anyways, a good step forward
MonsterZero
MemberXenomorphJun-08-2017 11:34 AMI have no problem if the Engineers are still alive. Maybe a Colonial Marines versus Engineers? Some big space/planet battle.
BUT ..There is no mention of the Engineers in the 4 Alien movies. AND the crew of the Nostromo didn't recognize the derelict as a Engineers craft.
Dallas "It's a crashed Engineers ship! Let's get the hell out of here!!"
I think it's better they tie up the Engineers 'story' before A L I E N starts?
?
Capt Torgo
MemberFacehuggerJun-08-2017 12:19 PMThe problem with a lot of angles like more engineers and homeworlds, is that stuff is gonna be super expensive to make ! As Simon noted, some wanted bugs busting and some did not. Seems we all might be happy if there was just something SMART in that film yet we got predictable horror tropes of radios not working on planet a mile apart, half the film was shown in the trailers, take away that intro with David and Weylen then make that shower scene creepy and scary as all hell. Just too much precious time wasted on scenes that IMHO could have been added to the viral like Ted talks. It's gonna take a lot of talent to pull people back in that are disenfranchised with how Ridley has been telling these two prequels. It's never too late for Fox to turn the ship around, I reckon!
Ripleys_Ghost
MemberFacehuggerJun-08-2017 3:22 PMI smell more retcon, and more mortgage payments for Fassbender. Was The Engineer City just some sort of truck stop?
Blackwinter-witch
MemberPraetorianJun-08-2017 3:33 PMI'm just going to wait and see what there is to be seen when it's there to be seen.
Lindelloff is not someone I have any trust in, and frankly I think he's just trying to keep himself relevant.
IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING
cryofodder
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2017 3:56 PMMaybe Origae-6 is one of the star systems shown in the star map in Prometheus. The Alien: Covenant - Origins novel might explain why they decided to go there and why David might want to go there as well.
EWATYAMORPH
MemberOvomorphJun-08-2017 11:24 PMcryofodder
thats a good call, If there is anything of deeper interest there then I hope we learn more about Origae-6. Maybe there's some secret real interesting stuff to be learned there and why some "technologically advanced" saboteurs would not want people heading there. Origins will have some info worth reading that's for sure, otherwise ADF would not waste precious moments writing it.
I don't believe it will be a total waste of paper and time even if it's not the detailed journey of David and Shaw we hoped for.
AdamPD
MemberFacehuggerJun-09-2017 10:51 AMI wonder if David purposey redirected to this other planet, so he could test the goo on the limited inhabitants.
Little resistance, little to no technology, perhaps he wasn't expecting the docking ship to attack the juggernaut (Assuming it did) and crash
I wonder if he planned to perfect his experiments on the small population, then take off and use the finished product on the real "Paradise"
So he set up a distress call using a recording of Shaw to lure in the Covenant, which he may have already known about, as it doesn't seem to have the same advanced FTL drive as the Prometheus, so perhaps that ship had already launched before the Prometheus mission, or was being prepped for launch after Prometheus left?