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Hope for the future. Thinking ahead (or back, I hope).

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EWATYAMORPH

MemberOvomorphJun-08-2017 12:06 AM

I know Covenant has just recently dropped and all that jazz but I'm now really interested in the plan for the next instalment as I think it's possibly a make or break for Ridley Scott. 

Is there any absolute concrete source out there that states what Awakening will cover?. Will Ridley trek back the way a bit and explore further down avenues such as the Engineers and there role in the whole saga? Or will he plough on with the timeline and drive straight through to make the connection to 'ALIEN'?.

Anybody got anything set in stone that confirms what Awakening will cover?. 

For the record, since Prometheus dropped and especially since I first saw the extended scenes that didnt make the theatrical cut, I am infinitely more interested in seeing more about (and reading more about) the Engineers, the Elders and their roles in the grand scheme of things than I am about seeing more "monsters" or creatures just because the suits at FOX think that's what everybody wants. 

Any info would be appreciated. 

 

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EWATYAMORPH

MemberOvomorphJun-08-2017 12:14 AM

For the record also I would actually be happy enough if he was to re-introduce more Engineers into the story and have one of these Engineers (a 223 type perhaps) try to pilot the derelict toward Earth to wipe it clean using Xeno Eggs, making an emergency landing on LV-426. 

This way he makes the connect to ALIEN, and the Engineers return to the screen, although obviously it shoots down any previous ideas of the Space Jockey being thousands of years old. I'm ok with that too. 

Even though I'd be happy with the above, I still want more on the history of the Engineers and the Elders and hope it materialises one day. 

suwhited

MemberFacehuggerJun-08-2017 5:30 AM

Unfortunately, at this point, I have setter lower expectations than I probably should.

I want (Not necessarily in this order):

1. Well written script and a coherent plotline.

2. Fleshed out (and believable...) characters.

3. Not another movie trying to make itself "I-Robot/Blade Runner..."

4. Tie canonically into the Alien Franchise.

5. Not try to self-gratify the producers with hidden themes of inclusion, diversity, racism etc. etc.

As a bonus, I would probably blow a wad if we can tie up a few loose ends from Prometheus...oh, like, Why were we invited to LV-223 in the first place...

I am easy to please...

EWATYAMORPH

MemberOvomorphJun-08-2017 8:28 AM

As to 1 & 2, it's not guaranteed with this franchise anymore. 

3. Well David will still play a huge part so that whole vibe may linger around. 

4. Well If Ridley decides to flow into ALIEN using a character from the next film or films as the Space Jockey and with the Space Jockey not being as old as once thought in ALIEN, then that sticks to the Canon, although it means Ridley has kind of changed his mind a bit perhaps on just how old that Space jockey was. 

Id personally be happy if it was an LV-223 type Engineer in the next movie or movies although people theorise all sorts of potential pilots.

5. Who knows. 

The bonus: I am pretty confident we have not seen the last of the Engineers. To keep both sets of fans happy I think the next movie/s can include Engineers, Xenos, humans and David and Ridley can salvage something from the mess and give us something we can all be pleased by. 

Who knows what goes on in RS head though. 

Barf The Mog

MemberFacehuggerJun-08-2017 9:00 AM

Ridley is currently filming for his Getty kidnapping movie, and next it looks to be the Battle of Brittain (only announced), for FOX. 

I question Scott's willingness to be focused for this franchise. How does one go from a movie about the Getty kidnapping, then (possibly) into the Battle of Brittain, and back into an Alien film? The sets are made, concepts can be created quickly, he should be doing these back-to-back, the Peter Jackson method. 

Check IMDB for Ridley - nothing has been announced for the next Alien installment, only what Scott said about filming the next one in 14 months, but FOX can certainly shut that claim down: those corporate bastards-  http://www.fandango.com/movie-news/alien-bites-ridley-scott-begins-shooting-next-movie-in-14-months-covenant-vr-experience-and-more-752275

It may be that FOX is waiting for China and Japan clear for Covenant, but with NECA toys, the books on Amazon, and all of the Dark Horse comics, I can't imagine that they would leave the franchise alone after Covenant.  

Covenant will end up being a cult favorite. Most of Scott's films end up being cult favs anyway; Exodus was an absolute turd of a movie.  

 

suwhited

MemberFacehuggerJun-08-2017 9:29 AM

@Tdby. I was with you until the Alien Resurrection begin "good" part.

But you are on the right track that there are different types of Alien Movies for different types of fans.

What concerns me to a small extent with Prometheus and now excerbated into a gaping sucking chest wound with Covenant, is the lack of direction and cohesiveness.

These two films while artistically beautiful did not come close to reaching their potentials, due to trying to do too much!

My advice to FOX and RS is stop trying to cram 20 lbs of crap into a 5 lb movie. Develop a story-line and stick to it Work it so the audiences can grab ahold of it and become a fan of the franchise... Flesh out the characters so they become alive (Ripley, Hicks, Parker, etc...) to the audience. 

Also, we do need to be spoon-fed everything, but the story should flow in a logical manner.

I know we can do better and I am positively awaiting the next itinerant...

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