Ati
MemberPraetorianMay-28-2017 10:18 AMFresh (05 28) Alien Covenant numbers just for the balance:
-- domestic: 57,3 million dollars so far
-- worldwide: 158,3 million dollars so far
The movie has not been released on more markets yet, so jumping to conclusion regarding flops is pointless.
colonialsoldier
MemberFacehuggerMay-28-2017 11:04 AMAnd jumping to conclusions that it's a hit and is a huge blockbuster is crazy optimistic and blind to the fact. I think you fail to see that this is huge talk in the criticsphere, so you should gripe to them.
And in decent news, the actual weekend foreign box office has not been included as of yet.
http://www.digitalspy.com/movies/alien/news/a829385/alien-covenant-drops-us-box-office-second-week/
Alien: Covenant nosedives 80% at the US box office in its second week
Were people that burned by Prometheus?
There are tentpoles that double its budget in a week's time and lot of those movies cost 200 million and higher. (e.g. Marvel and Star Wars movies). If Alien Covenant was real good; I think it could of recouped its money by now; but the fact remain is that bad word of mouth its affecting it at the box office.
Also, with social media; if bad buzz and negative comments come from die-hard fans; hopefully that will motivate the screenwriters and director to improve the next film. That is what I hope for.
cuponator3000
MemberChestbursterMay-28-2017 11:52 AMI don't know, making $254 million or so on a $97 million budget isn't bad. Not great, but not terrible. The actual profit from the film won't be too high with advertising and paydays, but they did what they could with the budget, time, and expectations. I hope that this leads Fox to give Ridley more room to complete his creative vision for the franchise. Then let the legacy live on throughout the years as people watch the films together and take it in as one big project and during that Fox can move onto other projects in the universe. Alien 5, etc.
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Lone
MemberPraetorianMay-28-2017 12:15 PMAs someone from the Northern UK, all I can say is that FOX made very little effort to promote the film here. I think I did more!! LOL
Most people I talked to had absolutely no idea about it!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
QueenElizabethShaw
MemberChestbursterMay-28-2017 12:40 PMI've had the same experience. Not many people realized there was a new Alien movie, and I live in the states. It probably has a bit to do with a few things including:
TV spots didn't get widely viewed because of how many people stream now.
The web ads didn't get seen as much as they could have because we are now stuck in these algorithmic prisons that only show us things that seem to fit with our current tastes.
Starlogger
MemberChestbursterMay-28-2017 12:47 PMOnce again it has been a HUGE success. I know people in Hollywood (producers mostly), and they seriously regard those numbers as "successful", particularly applied to the Alien franchise. Merchandising and branding are the main goals, remember!
claudius
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2017 1:28 PMwe will what succeful its after we will see that if we will get a sequel
Lone
MemberPraetorianMay-28-2017 1:30 PM@QueenElizabethShaw~ Agreed and well said!
Baywatch opens here tomorrow, no doubt the masses will flock to that s**t!
Well, I'll be seeing Covenant again, as I reckon it will be gone by the end of next week.
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oduoduodu
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2017 1:33 PMRemember 16 June
We have the China
Release.
That might push it
Past $200mil .
FOX decided to
De Giger
De xeno
De facehug
Prometheus
Not Scott.
They should have stayed
The course with
Prometheus and sorted
Outs faults .
People don't want to see
Another alien movie.
They wanted engineers
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Lone
MemberPraetorianMay-28-2017 1:37 PMThat's what we wanted Odu.
FOX and Ridley didn't make Covenant for us. They made it for the masses and the Aliens/Cameron fans who complained about Prometheus!
"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger
Blackwinter-witch
MemberPraetorianMay-28-2017 1:56 PMThe studios, all of them, knew going in that this would be a rough season. Look at Guardians of The Galaxy, right?
Some years, are just awful for box office due to various factors, other years are such that even the worst movies do awesome numbers.
IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING
joylitt
MemberNeomorphMay-28-2017 2:15 PMIt sounds really bad. With 10 million on the second weekend it will be out of the theaters really soon.
colonialsoldier
MemberFacehuggerMay-28-2017 2:22 PM@Starlogger, I just cannot think the movie is a HUGE success at this point. The way a movie makes a profit is by doubling its box office. So; if it cost a 100 million, when it cost 200 million then we can start breaking out the champagne.
This is the current tally on Box Office Mojo
Domestic: | $57,347,181 | 36.2% |
+ Foreign: | $101,009,281 | 63.8% |
= Worldwide: | $158,356,462 |
In the domestic column; expect the studio to get 50% of that amount since the other half goes to the movie theater.
In the worldwide column; the studios will reap about a third of that.
So take 30 million from the top and 30 million from the foreign column. That is 60 million bucks and the studio needs to rack up another 40 million coming in after everything else is taking away. It is still short by a lot.
Yes, merchandising and when it hits blu-ray and cable; more money comes in. Some movies do not actually see a profit after decades.
All I am saying for the studio to greenlight another sequel to be released in two years; it needs to recoup its budget in the next month.
colonialsoldier
MemberFacehuggerMay-28-2017 2:30 PMBTW, worldwide is now added from the original post. 145 million to 158 million now. That means only 13 million was added from around the world. With the law of diminishing returns, we should only get about another 10 million total box office by next week. Can China and Japan add another 30 million to its box office for it to make 200 million worldwide? Fingers crossed? Perhaps, we can create a gambling bet to make it interesting lol.
G. H. (Gman)
AdminTrilobiteMay-28-2017 3:08 PMIn order to start pulling profit the movie is going to need to make more than $194-242 million. It still has a long way to go, but I think it will be fine. It won't break the bank, but I'm fairly sure it will get past those numbers.
Last week I predicted it would be beating close to the $60 million mark domestically and that would be pretty good considering the new release competition and the rise in sales for more family-friendly movies for Memorial Day weekend. (Pirates, Guardians 2) Well that's exactly where it is.
All things considered, Alien: Covenant is probably doing everything a nearly 40 year old, R-rated, non-kid friendly franchise can do in this kind of competitive era of blockbusters.
dk
MemberTrilobiteMay-28-2017 3:47 PMDoes merchandise figure in the bigger picture? I spent $200 on Fox licensed merch and will drop another $25-$30 for the blue ray and probably another $40 on the neomorph figure- way more than the cost of seeing it once in the theater.
MonsterZero
MemberXenomorphMay-28-2017 4:02 PMJust got back from my 3rd viewing...Was really surprised to see so many people! Was expecting 3 or 4 ...but there was 30 or so and that was a 11:15 showing!?
CGI actually looked really good this viewing. Shocked me. Could kinda see the puppets this time.
Really felt happy for David.
But really miss the calm cool nature of Walter.
Ati
MemberPraetorianMay-28-2017 4:06 PMI don't have any problems with the CGI. The strange tv-spot-giant-head-neo-scene is not in the movie. To be more precise, a different version can be seen in it.
MonsterZero
MemberXenomorphMay-28-2017 4:14 PMYeah Ati, I actually think the CGI adds a spooky layer. I'll wait for the 4K blu ray to see if they added film grain.
I'm so stoked for the next one!
oduoduodu
MemberOvomorphMay-28-2017 4:19 PMG.H.
Nice statement
Do you think fox
Will Fox greenlit
the sequel?
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Starlogger
MemberChestbursterMay-28-2017 4:55 PMSequel has ALREADY been greenlighted, even before this movie was released. The powers that be at Fox were pleased enough with it at prescreenings, I assure you.
Ati
MemberPraetorianMay-28-2017 4:58 PMI love you Starlogger! :)
Everybody go to the theatre again and improve the numbers! :D
dk
MemberTrilobiteMay-28-2017 4:58 PMI wouldn't be surprised if they shot some stuff at the AC set. You know, since everything was set up and all. Yeah I sound like a broken record lol!
Jafo
MemberOvomorphMay-29-2017 2:33 PMPrometheus in China did 30 million and in Japan did 21 million. The only increase in Box Office from Prometheus has been the limited number of Asian countries. So If that trend continues we should see a slight up tick in China and Japan numbers....although nothing is certain. So you have the current $160 million worldwide. Lets add another $25 million Domestic, that equates to 85 million domestic. Let's lowball China and Japan and give it 40 million combined and give the other foreign markets another 20 million total over it's run. $245 million worldwide....although I think it will be a bit higher $260 to $280 million....that's just my math though....I've been wrong many times in the past.
MonsterZero
MemberXenomorphMay-29-2017 2:44 PMThere is no way they are going to rebuild the Space Jockey set again!....I'm still amazed they rebuilt it for a little scene in Alien :Covenant! (A dark scene where you could barely make out anything!) ..I think it's clear, they built it for the sequel to A:C...the final bridge to A L I E N. Where we get to see the chestburst? Or the pods being placed?
Like to hear if the Space Jockey set is still intact?
QueenElizabethShaw
MemberChestbursterMay-29-2017 3:59 PMBloody disgusting dropped this a few hours ago. Quite a contrast from last week's article.
Jafo
MemberOvomorphMay-29-2017 11:08 PMI don't know where they got an ending domestic run of $70 million at. It's 60 million now, it'll be $70 million by early next week. $400 million to break even seems high, being Prometheus barely broke $400 million and they greenlit Covenant. You would think if they lost money on Prometheus they wouldn't of made Covenant. Prometheus was more expensive to make also...130 million. So I would think 300 to $320 million was the break even point for Prometheus. One thing is for sure, the profit margin for Covenant will be much less then Prometheus. They definitely need to change things up for the next one though if they make one.