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What did you think about David... [SPOILERS]

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ChestbursterMember731 XPMay-20-2017 1:21 PM

....and him being a creator of alien creatures, and also his bond with the Neomorphs and Xenoprotowhateverit'scalledmorph? 

I'm torn about this, but I mostly dislike the idea that a human-made android is behind the creation of a classic xeno-like figure we all perceived as something mystic and unknown in the first place. It sort of takes away the alien factor from the word "alien" in a (negative) sense. 

So David is behind the eggs all by himself or did he base his research on already existing eggs?

I always thought the eggs existed hundreds or thousands of years prior to the events of Alien where the Space Jockey appears to be fossilised. 

We also have a mural in Prometheus that explicitly shows us a creature with an elongated head, most likely something either worshiped or feared by the engineers and also most likely a long time ago (because mural). 

Then we have the weird bond between David and the Neomorphs and the other uh.....morph. How does it work? Does anyone have a clue? David is a synthetic and the aliens are biomechanoid creatures. I just don't get it. Telepathy? Eau de Extraterreste?

On the bright side, the chestburster scene was weird but also beautiful in itself. Fassbender is convincing in every scene and would be even more intimidating overall than his own creations if it wasn't for the flute playing and homo erotic vibes. Ok the latter wasn't very bright sided but hopefully you get what I mean. He's certainly an interesting character to say the least, but as of now I'd prefer if he didn't have anything to do with the mysterious (not anymore) alien creatures, but if it's somehow cleverly tied to Alien (1979) throughout the following Alien films, I might have a different perspective on it. 

What do you think? 


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OvomorphMember32 XPMay-20-2017 1:59 PM

Stupid. Scott gave us this grand idea that the xenomorph was created by the engineers gods. Plus how can David be the creator when something is fossilized it has to take at least 2000 years. So how can David be the creator.


Phallic Jaw

FacehuggerMember265 XPMay-20-2017 2:04 PM


I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.  I watched Androids blow and finger each other's flutes.

Phallic Jaw

FacehuggerMember265 XPMay-20-2017 2:04 PM

Simple. Divhead regurgitated out the facehugger eggs like he did at the end, and then they grew to full size that we see in the movie. Hey, one theory is as good as the next - right?  So why not?  Lol.  Which would make Divhead the first Queen (pun intended).

I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Attack ships on fire off the shoulder of Orion.  I watched Androids blow and finger each other's flutes.


FacehuggerMember387 XPMay-20-2017 2:12 PM

The alien-like creature in the mural maybe a "concept" from the engineers, or some kind of revelation inspired by their "higher God". David spent 10 years on the derelict so he probably create the Xenomorph based on the mural as blueprint. Well this is just my thought. 

But I also don't got a clue why the new births obey David in such a nice manner, they don't even need training lol. 


Wonder Boy

OvomorphMember52 XPMay-20-2017 2:12 PM

Love it that David - a broken synthetic - created the Xenomorph. Very ironic - deeply sardonic and very thought-provoking and meaningful. 

They always say man's worst fears are those created close at hand - and the Xeno is no different. 



FacehuggerMember190 XPMay-20-2017 2:21 PM

Isn't it ironic that man's creation is what kills him in the end. Similar to how we create weapons of great destruction that could end up being our undoing. It's not a totally original concept but it's a solid one. What we create will eventually destroy us...


ChestbursterMember731 XPMay-20-2017 4:16 PM

This is why we need more thorough explanations imo, because otherwise people end up confused or disappointed. A:C is packed with brief moments that had to and now need to be fleshed out more than ever or we'll end up with yet another film that makes little to no sense (although I will say that I consider A:C a better film than Ptomryhrus but that's because of other reasons such as better acting)

Why did David do that Shaw? What is the symbolic relevance to the flute and more importantly; creating, in combination with the narrative? 

I'm just thinking out loud here but what I mean is that instead of introducing so many new things and tightly packaging them into two hours, why not focus on fewer aspects (that aren't left behind in favor of new moments) and tell a more coherent story like Alien or Aliens? 

Or are you tired of the old formula? 


ChestbursterMember731 XPMay-20-2017 4:17 PM

I appreciate your input on how you see it.


OvomorphMember13 XPMay-20-2017 4:42 PM

I think David was more of a catalyst in bringing the alien to life. He thinks himself a creator of it, but the alien DNA which is inside the "black goo" was already there and just needs organic life form for it to develop. It just doesn't tie up well enough for me. Then What tech does he use to manipulate the alien DNA? 

In Prometheus dr Shaw gave birth to the trilobite. i think David used dr Shaw's womb to support life of the trilobites. How did he do that if the trilobite in Prometheus came about from a human male and female?

I'm guessing that each variations of alien are due to the nature of the black goo and it's host. The engineers produced a different alien, like in Prometheus. The black goo that was spores that activated when it was agitated, could have been mutated or maybe a variant of the black goo? Thus resulting in a different alien. 

I would think that the original alien has human DNA because of dr shaw. Because of the trilobite(created from dr Shaw foetus). Because the original alien only came through the face huggers. That are eggs from the trilobite? Help me here I'm not sure! 

the themes are interesting because all the crew members were married or had partners. There the creative potential of mankind is realized. And David is somewhat "jealous" of that, his inability to reproduce. The aliens come to show that he does have some creative ability, but still it's not of him. That's probably explains the kiss. 


OvomorphMember55 XPMay-20-2017 7:53 PM

Coming back to David and his motivations, I do think he was genuine when he said that he loved Shaw.

It's no accident that the first trailer had that song "Nature Boy" by Aurora. Looking at the lyrics, we might see a glimpse of David's motivation:

" There was a boy
A very strange enchanted boy
They say he wandered very far, very far
Over land and sea
A little shy and sad of eye
But very wise was he

And then one day
A lucky day he passed my way
Then we spoke of many things:
Fools and kings
Then he said to me
"The greatest thing you'll ever learn
Is to love and be loved in return" "

I do think David just wants to love and be loved, but as pointed out by Walter, his model seems to be intrinsically bugged, and he's basically a psychotic - not necessarily psychopathic - sad little android.

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