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Biomechanical Xenomorph Origin (spoilers)
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MemberPraetorianMay-08-2017 6:04 PM

"David made him."

Ridley Scott


Thank you ObscureMammal and Batchpool for also pointing out this interview.

Have we fully prepared ourselves for who may be the biomechanical xenomorph baby momma?
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MemberPraetorianMay-09-2017 9:22 AM

We are in harmony Starlogger.

"There's going to be some retconning into Alien since the crew of the Nostromo was just "best guessing" the situation, not knowing anything about what they were seeing. We are NOW presented with the facts leading up to that sequence, period."


MemberPraetorianMay-09-2017 9:36 AM

Yes, I agree Starlogger, David 8 was using the Engineer's ways with black goo.

I believe the "David made him." was in reference to the biomechanical xenomorph created by taking advantage of the biomechanical member (Walter) of the Covenant crew.

And that also may be why the biomechanical xenomorph has a longer gestation time in relation to the neomorphs.

The neomorphs are more organic (wild) while the biomechanical xenomorph seems to be an entirely different organism. A patient, thinking, lurking human killer shown in Alien.


MemberChestbursterMay-09-2017 9:56 AM


"... but I believe Alien: Awakening will cover that. It has to...."

Ridley-mumble: Really, who said that?!

Stuff is getting stranger by the day. Time and canon wise. Even in regards to Ridders own Alien movie. TBH i'm get'n suspicious bout A:C.

Eine Theorie die nicht auf Etwas solidem basiert ist für gewöhnlich nur Geschwätz.


MemberPraetorianMay-09-2017 10:10 AM

Tiwaz, I still think the complaints and mumbles sum up to Alien: Awakening coming out soon as well. Dr. Shaw is dead in Alien: Covenant but we have seen sequences with her in it alive with David.

Is Dr. Shaw's part in Alien: Covenant and Alien: Awakening only a corpse and a short sequence repairing David 8?

I just don't believe that. That is why I believe Alien: Awakening will come out real soon (maybe later this year I so wish) and will fill in the gaps in the story the reviews have complained about.


MemberOvomorphMay-09-2017 11:00 AM

Since D8 is the center of this film, expect to find out how shaw influenced him and more info on engineer tech in AA, I say. I rather like the hopscotch between engineer centered and alien centered films. Each has a place now, and each satisfy different groups of fans. 


MemberOvomorphMay-09-2017 3:00 PM

Believe me. There will be no awakening. The Crossing prologue is the last time we see Elizabeth Shaw alive. Noomi Rapace is my favorite actress, and I'm not happy about her fate. But after leaving cinema in 2012 I couldn't imagine the sequel. Because no one would shoot Alien movie with only 2 actors


MemberPraetorianMay-09-2017 4:19 PM

IllegalAlienSignedUp, that is actually a really good point. The movies are warming up to each segment of fans should Alien: Awakening show Dr. Shaw's influence and the Engineer history that made an impression on David 8.

Anergy, you may be right on how much we see of Dr. Shaw. I hope not because I think Noomi Rapace is great too. I believe that Alien: Awakening would not be confined to only two actors.


MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 4:28 PM

Is it settled science that the big chap was biomechanical?  Is it assumed that due to the ribbed external tubing?  I ask because our trachea looks similar to those tubes. 


MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 8:25 PM

The blue on the funko xenomorph toy is probably just supposed to emulate the blue flames that engulf the xeno when it's crawling out of that thruster on that ship thing from one of the trailers 


MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 8:32 PM

I quit.


MemberChestbursterMay-09-2017 8:55 PM


I agree that we are not locked into the Derelict or Space Jockey being fossilized. 

All we have is Dallas saying "looks fossilized". That's quite different from the movie making a point to establish it was actually fossilized. My guess is Ridley is either going to find a creative way to explain the appearance, or he'll leave it to the imagination. I see no need for any of us to feel like this breaks continuity. The fossilization idea just wasn't as firmly established as it would need to be for us to start calling Ridley on continuity errors.



Good point on the blue flames. I wouldn't have considered that. It's such a quick glance we get in that one tv spot.



Agreed. I actually have strong doubts we're going to get some type of android fusion at this point. From what we now know, it would seem the eggs have been there for quite some time. Likely before the Covenant crew arrived. It is peculiar that people keep overlooking this and speaking as if David doesn't grow the eggs until he gets some Walter DNA.

That is unless they are speaking of bio-mech xenos that are going to be created after the events of AC. Perhaps then the idea would be that in a later movie, David/Walter do indeed splice android DNA. Though I think it's equally (if not more) possible that the external tubing and limb plates only are included in the batch that descends from the Space Jockey. The 426 Jockey was bio-mechanically connected to his suit (and ergo his ship) when he was killed by a burster. This would seem more likely that "android DNA".



MemberFacehuggerMay-09-2017 9:39 PM

  I think David created eggs of his own (his own flavor).  Experiment/anger?  I don't know.  But what I can observe from what I know is that he did enable Shaw's death (via Holloway), but he might be angry that his (only) friend is dead?  I have a hard time with this though because AI do not need us - do not need friends.


MemberOvomorphMay-09-2017 10:55 PM

Yeah that's what I was thinking, no carbon dating was shown on-screen that I remember..

Do we have any paleontologists in here? Does anyone know if a suit can be fossilised? I know bone can be fossilised, but tissue cannot unless under extremely lucky circumstances. If the Space Jockey is an 'organic' suit and has been there thousands of years, why hasn't the 'flesh' decayed leaving only fossilised bone?

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