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Is Dr. Elizabeth Shaw dying?

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Resurgence

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So after seeing the prologue "THE CROSSING" footage on alien day, what made my mind start wondering was why all of the sudden did the Black goo go from a Chemical to a "PATHOGEN" because for those who don't remember or don't know a pathogen is a disease which is often communicable or capable of spreading from person to person and as we saw in Prometheus something happened to Dr. Shaw that caused the trilobite to occur and if people are right that it happened from Dr. Shaw and Dr. Holloway having intercourse then regardless of how it infects, she is infected and as we see in the footage as well Dr. Shaw is sweating profusely and doesn't necessarily look to be in the best health and if this is true and DAVID views Dr. Shaw as a mother of sorts after all the pain he caused her she still displays compassion and care towards DAVID and if she were to die it would push him over the edge believing it to be the Engineers doing even if not directly and it would support Chris' theory. what do you guys think?

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I smell a stinky 

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Resurgence, I was saying that I would be disappointed IF she's already dead by the time the events of COVENANT take place. My meaning being that if she is indeed dying in the CROSSING prologue (as you asked about), it would be a bummer if she's flat-out dead by the time the Covenant arrives on the planet. Never said that you said she's already dead.

Then I went on to say that IF she's already dead, it would be interesting to see how that plays a role in David's later actions in COVENANT.

However, she may very well not be dead in COVENANT. (I would prefer this turnout immensely). However, she's been described as "missing" and that could imply a lot of things. Perhaps, as I postulated above, Shaw has been altered by David in his attempt to save/revive her, and in horror or anger she flees. Or, in disgust, she leaves him after he kills the Paradise engineers. Maybe she's simply been mutated into a Giger-esque birthing machine by David or the Engineers or the black goo or whatever; this is another popular theory that I wouldn't mind being accurate. Another theory I've seen is that she's not even on the same planet; that they were separated during the events that will likely be shown in AWAKENING. I myself speculate that she's being held hostage by the High Engineers, or even the rumored Higher Beings they serve, and to get her back/save her David starts creating new beings with the black goo.

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Raido

I have to wonder if it would really be all that bad. Yes it's not what any of us have been expected for the last few years but just imagine. It's a hell of a morbid plot twist. 

Shaw being so fixed on her answers, she neglects all real care for her well being and allows herself to just expire slowly. As if she's metaphorically pushing on towards her answers through a barrage of bullets, knowing that when she finally reaches the engineers, she will die, but at least she'll have found her meaning. 

Consider how angry David might be with her for this if it's true that he did grow attached to her. The feelings of betrayal and abandonment he could feel. There's some real potential there.

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Based on how Sir Ridley Scott has heavily integrated religious aspects into the alien series following Prometheus I would not be surprised if she was resurrected Jesus-Style.

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She is turned into an egg laying Neomorph for David ...

 

Look upon the pictures and beware...

 

 

The same fate as her partner Holloway and Fifield, the pathogen will turn those whom it infects...

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Plus just because she is Missing doesn't she isn't dead and if Dr. Shaw is dead and going to be resurrected I feel the Engineers will be responsible because I doubt that all of the Engineers were at the citadel when DAVID dropped the ampules and this would be possible with my theory that there are multiple factions among the engineer race because I believe that the term 'Engineer' is simply a group in the race and there are probably multiple branches in the Engineer faction similar to our engineering with there being Bio-Engineering, electrical engineering, civil engineering, etc

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QES

I don't think it would be "all that bad" either. I believe I said above that if Shaw is dead, it would be a bit of a bummer, but then I went on to list a number of interesting developments that could take place if she were. I'd prefer to see her alive, but since AWAKENING is apparently set before COVENANT there's always the chance to see her story in detail then.

Back to Resurgence's main idea--IS Shaw dying? In another thread I was replying to, someone suggested that she's not sick, just the environmental settings for the Engineers are warmer than human preferences. It's not something I find probable, but it's an interesting idea nonetheless.

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Going by the leaks cropping up on places like 4chan, AaronStar is right and Shaw ends up as a test subject for David.

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Resurgence
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Raido if it were the conditions then why when Fifield and Milburn were lost why did they need the space blanket and were visably cold.

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@Resurgence, maybe because the ship hadn't been active at that time? But then again, when David puts her in hypersleep, she's wearing the Engineer cloak, as if she's cold...

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Exactly, in the footage she has the engineer cloak on in a lot of shots but is very visably sweating.

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SPOILERS!!!

Look at the body of the new Funko doll...uniform looks familiar?  UGHHH It may be Dr. Shaw...  

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My bad, I was rather miffed about it back then and thought I wasn't revealing too much but letting people know what to look forward to.

I will begin my second viewing in a week or so and I'm hoping that much like it did with Prometheus it will reveal some bits that I missed the first time or perhaps some scrap of hope of what to look forward to in the future. Unfortunately for now though I will continue to wallow~

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Bit of a Spoiler there Jen we have to remember others have yet to see the movie yet.

As far as this Topic... some good replied i wished i replied to... maybe i can but it will be hard as i have seen the movie, so its hard to do this in past-tense.

so i wont cover some stuff yet...

But as far as Shaw being infected and knowing what is to come, again i think its shown she must have survived any ill effects at least 6 Months after Prometheus due to her Hair Growth and she looks not well due to most likely lack of enough nutrition from limited liquids and food.  Rather than the Black Goo.

When she goes into Cryo-sleep i have the feeling that it seemed she genuinely thinks she would make it to Paradise, so she is not aware she is very ill... if indeed she is.

As far the Prologue and David, well the movie explains his intentions... thats all i am saying.  As i dont think we should be doing spoilers in this post...

But sure its fine in a New Topics labeled as Spoilers.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

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