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Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPApr-24-2017 10:15 AM

If BigDave can't translate the words in the image, we need a linguist. :) If you are a linguist, please help.

Alien Covenant

'The production team carried over the engineer alphabet created for Prometheus. All the hieroglyphics actually say something, but it might be rather difficult to decode since not all the translations are in English.'

source:

http://collider.com/alien-covenant-spoilers-things-to-know/#cast-and-characters

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AdamPD

FacehuggerMember198 XPApr-30-2017 4:15 PM

Oh lord, this reminds me of the TV series Lost, when people were trying to translate those damn hieroglyphics lol.

I'd love to know what it says

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPApr-30-2017 4:18 PM

It also reminds me of Dead Space 2 with similar writings but there was a conversion chart behind a wall that let you figure out the writings if you wanted to.

joylitt

NeomorphMember1541 XPApr-30-2017 4:21 PM

It says: "Please do not attempt to over analyze this. It is just a movie"

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPApr-30-2017 4:26 PM

Prometheus:

More info about the possible meaning of the writing in the Covenant image is in the Petra post:

//www.alien-covenant.com/topic/44395

Tonehound

FacehuggerMember146 XPMay-01-2017 2:30 AM

Can anyone out there translate this? I for one would love to know what is written on the walls leading into and in the head rooms.

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPMay-01-2017 2:56 AM

This might help. Here is the Engineer font alphabet...

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

IllegalAlienSignedUp

OvomorphMember63 XPMay-01-2017 11:13 AM

If I can get a clearer picture, I can work on it.

Former USAF cypto linguist here.

from what I can see in the grainy picture:

1st row: KLESAMEB(I,U)EVIE

2nd row: IFEANDBEAT

I searched morphology and if the word is kisame, it means demon shark in japanese. Might be a hefty coincidence though.

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMay-01-2017 11:49 AM

Lone, thx.

IllegalASU, thank you, I try to make better versions, what about the Prometheus gate image? It looks much clearer:

 

LadyStardust

OvomorphMember32 XPMay-01-2017 12:21 PM

It's cuneiform, but I only managed to translate English into Brazilian Portuguese so far...

But David, our David, might have had a clue, since he had been studying ‎Sumarian, Akkadian, Eblaite, Elamite, Hattic... and so on so forth, while everyone else was sleeping.

IllegalAlienSignedUp

OvomorphMember63 XPMay-01-2017 12:41 PM

Picture from prometheus has different radicals on the pictographs.

I think the "font" file is incomplete

LadyStardust

OvomorphMember32 XPMay-01-2017 12:52 PM

Maybe this will help:

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPMay-01-2017 2:52 PM

Cuneiform alphabet...

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

LadyStardust

OvomorphMember32 XPMay-01-2017 2:55 PM

@Lone, far better! - or should I say: way better?

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPMay-01-2017 3:24 PM

@LadyStardust even if we can translate this, it will probably turn out to be gobbledygook....or perhaps Rutger's famous speech from BladeRunner! ;) Hahah

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMay-01-2017 3:27 PM

Lone, thank you, it is not bla-bla. Look at the source, please!

'The production team carried over the engineer alphabet created for Prometheus. All the hieroglyphics actually say something, but it might be rather difficult to decode since not all the translations are in English.'

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-01-2017 3:28 PM

It would be a hoot if it turned out to be something like joylitt said:

"Please do not attempt to over analyze this. It is just a movie"

LadyStardust

OvomorphMember32 XPMay-01-2017 3:36 PM

@Lone, what you said does make sense, but the written language itself - even if the producers had cared to finish what they started - is cuneiform in its base, and it was what David was studying. And that's why we ended up having this wonderful conversation about languages and their possible cuneiform form and meaning.

Now, please, indulge me: which Roy's famous speech are you talking about?

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMay-01-2017 3:38 PM

No, dk, in Covenant it will mean something, I think, check the link.

Blackwinter-witch

PraetorianMember2861 XPMay-01-2017 3:40 PM

What it says over the piled Engineer bodies:

DO NOT FORGET TO FEED THE CATS...EVER.

:D

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPMay-01-2017 3:44 PM

"The secrets of the goo can be found on the planet of AAAAHHHH....."

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPMay-01-2017 3:48 PM

That would be Rutger's final I've seen things you people wouldn't believe.... speech

You are correct Ati, they wouldn't go to all that trouble then have it be undeciferable!

Ridley Scott wanted the language of the Engineers to relate to the oldest possible hypothesised speech. Linguist teacher, Dr. Anil K Biltoo, from the School of Oriental and African Studies, University of London, was the person who invented that language for the film.

The basis for it, was ancient Proto-Indo-European, which is hypothesised as being the ancestor of all Indo-European languages, German, Scandinavian, Celtic, Greek, Slavic, and the Indic language of North India. They all have to have a common ancestor, in order to explain how they are related, one to the other. This hypothesised ancestor is referred to as PIE [Proto-Indo-European]

In order to demonstrate the full range of the language and how it would sound when it was put into sentences, the intonation, flow and pathos, Ridley asked Dr. Biltoo to choose a soliloquy which was very close to Ridley’s heart, that being Roy Batty’s famous speech from Blade Runner. After his delivery, Dr. Biltoo was then pleasantly surprised when Ridley offered him the role of David’s [holographic] tutor.

  

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMay-01-2017 3:50 PM

BWW/dk --- I studied morphology and syntax, but that's not enough here. :)

Or: 'This is the script of the next movie.'

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPMay-01-2017 3:51 PM

Ahahaha Blackwinter-witch yes!

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMay-01-2017 3:52 PM

Lone, thank you so much for that background information!

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPMay-01-2017 3:54 PM

You're most welcome Ati!

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

LadyStardust

OvomorphMember32 XPMay-01-2017 4:03 PM

@Lone, thank you so very much.

So, I'll go out of this with it: I've seen things you people wouldn't believe....

Or should I say: "get out of this with"? Translation is sometimes confusing...

Maybe I should go ahead and say: "Fui, boa sorte a quem fica e acha que traduz, filme ou não. Fico com a máxima: 'Vocês nem imaginam as coisas que vi...'"

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMay-01-2017 4:37 PM

Thank you LadyStardust.

I hope IllegalAlienSignedUp will help us as well.

IllegalAlienSignedUp

OvomorphMember63 XPMay-01-2017 5:00 PM

I will be checking it out more. Rn feeding the fam and such. I will have to take a look at the phonetic eig combos etc. This is like when I was learning japanese and had to figure Kanji radicals, lol.

LadyStardust

OvomorphMember32 XPMay-01-2017 5:02 PM

Whatever @Ati, the post is all yours ;)

 

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMay-01-2017 5:14 PM

IllegalAlienSignedUp , as for the Covenant tv-spot image, I can't create better stills:

It is very probable that the text is about their god/gods!

 

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