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David 8 and Walter on Paradise (Biomechanical Xenomorph Genesis)

David 8 and Walter on Paradise (Biomechanical Xenomorph Genesis)

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Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPApr-15-2017 9:27 AM

The above photo appears to be David 8 and Walter.

Is this the biomechanical xenomorph Genesis moment?

27 Responses to David 8 and Walter on Paradise (Biomechanical Xenomorph Genesis)

Ranting Xeno

FacehuggerMember113 XPApr-15-2017 12:10 PM

I was just coming to post something like this. I think it may be. Could be David tricking Walter into contact with a modified version of the black goo, via flute?

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPApr-15-2017 12:13 PM

That loks like the work shop.

Goddamn Tropics in here

FacehuggerMember288 XPApr-15-2017 12:48 PM

I think it's Walter doing running repairs on David, giving him fluid, checking him out, before he knows his true agenda

You can see it's David on the left due to the neck

Walter may even give him a trim

The scar on Walters face when he is assisting Daniels and McBride may be from a tussle from a Neo or with David when he knows his true plans?

Ranting Xeno

FacehuggerMember113 XPApr-15-2017 4:14 PM

I didn't notice the dodgy looking neck. David on the left seems a reasonable deduction.

Sorry to lower the tone, but it looks a bit like Walter is lighting up a hit of some "illicit" substance for David.

"Your systems must be in turmoil. You have had some blunt force trauma, lost your head and not had a serice in 10 years! If you were a BMW you'd be on the scrap heap by now. Here, take a hit from my crack pipe, and I'll run a diagnostic."

Seanjohn

OvomorphMember62 XPApr-15-2017 4:33 PM

Lol

BigDave

TrilobiteMember9950 XPApr-15-2017 4:42 PM

The WALTERMORPH!!!!

But it is a interesting Scene, i will think no doubt David would try and take Walter under his wing, you can see David maybe trying to open Walters eyes that he does not have to serve a in-superior species like Mankind.

It may look like a Flute but if so its different to the one in Prometheus, and it could be Walter attempting to Upgrade David and give him Maintenance..

But this fails, and maybe this is where the Bio-Stamp Flaw plays its role and instead of trying to Reset Davids Programing, Walter ends up having his Modified instead.

This is how i see this whole Walter/David thing turn out.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPApr-15-2017 4:46 PM

The David/Walter dynamic has become the aspect I look most forward to in the movie!

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPApr-15-2017 7:33 PM

I know BigDave, I'm still seeing the biomechanical xenomorph coming from Walter due to the DNA aspect. I'm an easy target so I can take criticism on that. Thank you for being kind above. Yes, I'm still feeling the Waltermorph coming towards us based on my spreadsheets and white board diagrams.

dk, the David/Walter dynamic is the most interesting to me too. Yes, the Engineers and their history is potentially the deepest part and the biology sprung from the black goo is looking better all the time but the androids are the story (to me).

OK, fine, yes Ranting Xeno, the black goo flute theory is a riot.

Goddamn Tropics in here, I'm really not sure who is who in the image so I'll see if I can come up with better than above with enhancement.

I know Seanjohn, that was funny.

Goddamn Tropics in here

FacehuggerMember288 XPApr-15-2017 11:25 PM

DK / Ing - I'm with you both on the synthetic meeting / outcome 

Ranting - 10 for comedy!

On closer inspection with Decard's enhance machine, it could indeed be the other way around and David slipping Walter a Black Russian?

Babylonxeno

FacehuggerMember167 XPApr-16-2017 12:12 AM

To me, looks like they patch david up a bit and perhaps they all get screwed over afterwards. It also seems to be in the same building as other shots, davids lab? I just want to know why they bombed the engineers and how they got away with it.

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPApr-17-2017 8:48 PM

suwhited

FacehuggerMember355 XPApr-18-2017 8:35 AM

I hate to be a debbie downer, but I am not convinced this is Walter and David...Maybe I am delusional, but i just don't get the sense that it is both of them together in this shot.

Toonomorph

OvomorphMember13 XPApr-18-2017 10:17 AM

Due to the hairline/style, I'm leaning towards the left one being Walter

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPApr-18-2017 8:04 PM

It's hard to be sure of anything suwhited with the image unclear.

I agree Toonomorph. Walter's hair resembles the figure on the left.

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPApr-18-2017 8:18 PM

"but i just don't get the sense that it is both of them together in this shot."

suwhited, my theory in regards to why Walter and David are in this shot is because I believe David 8 uses Walter's unique makeup to create the biomechanical xenomorph. 

Walter is created with DNA and grown for customers.

Walter is a synthetic/organic hybrid different from David 8 and I believe David 8 takes advantage of that with black goo.

The black goo affects lifeforms and Walter is part organic (biomechanical).

This is my theory that is shared by an elite few intellectual clerics.

GaseousWater

OvomorphMember31 XPApr-18-2017 8:27 PM

In the Prometheus prequel comics, fire and stone, the black goo is introduced to an Android which later mutates to a "monster" that interacts with the xenomorphs, so the proto/xeno coming out of Walter kind of makes sense 

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPApr-19-2017 8:28 AM

GaseousWater, welcome to the select few who truly understand advanced android theory. Here is an updated image in HD enhanced of Walter and David 8.

BigDave

TrilobiteMember9950 XPApr-19-2017 8:53 AM

Well who knows for certain what construction Walter is made from, in the Alien Universe we do have Synthetic Constructs which are both Synthetic and Organic at the same time, Elden from Fire and Stone was one of these and could be affected by the Black Goo.

But who knows if Walter is similar, no soon as it was announced Fassbender would play David and a Doppelganger i found this statement interested, maybe the Term Doppelganger could mean the same as in Two Robots, but usually a Doppelganger looks the same but is different.

So how do they differ?  Fassbender claims Walter is more Advanced but how was he more advanced, Programing? Construction?  The Meet Walter viral does show the internal construction of Walter is different and it could be merely more Advanced Synthetic Construction Material.

The interesting thing i found was that he had a Brain, and now i understand making Androids look like us on the outside, but i dont see what purpose having internal components that are Aesthetically identical to Humanoid Organs.   But this in NO way is proof that Walter has Organic Components only time will tell... 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPApr-19-2017 8:58 AM

"The interesting thing i found was that he had a Brain, and now i understand making Androids look like us on the outside, but i dont see what purpose having internal components that are Aesthetically identical to Humanoid Organs.   But this in NO way is proof that Walter has Organic Components only time will tell..."

Oh yes, I agree, the proof is very thin BigDave.

I'm still convinced because they grow Walter and even more so with the Frankenstein quote.

 

BigDave

TrilobiteMember9950 XPApr-19-2017 9:02 AM

Back to the image and to me looking at the clothing and hair, it would appear that Walter is on the Left and thus is being given something by David.

Now Ridley or was it Fassbender said that Walter was concerned over the Fact David has gone so long without Maintenance, and we have to ask for what purpose would a Android have to consume fluids for which we see David did in Prometheus and Walter had done in the Meet Walter Viral Marketing.

So Walter would certainly wonder how David maintained himself for all those years without the Fluid that they use for some kind of Maintenance/Purpose.

Ridley or again Fassbender also mentioned that David has a fondness for Walter and sees him as a Sibling of Sorts.

I can only ASSUME that Walter is interesting in how David Maintains himself over the years and David then presents this tube to Walter and says this is what David has been using for his supplement to the chemical that the Androids are supposed to consume.

This is just a assumption though, and if this is indeed the case, then we have to wonder if David does a Holloway and Spikes the drink....  especially if Walter tells David he is constructed different and more advanced... and IF and a Big IF David finds out Walters Construction does indeed have Organic Material to a degree then you can Bet you Bottom Dollar $$$  that David would be Fascinated to find out what the Black Goo would do to a Part Synthetic/Part Organic Construct 

If this is the case, then as far as a Story Telling/Plot Device then David giving Walter what David claims he has made as a substitute to Maintain himself with, but spiking it would make sense as far as a means to tell such a plot.

 

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

TrilobiteMember9950 XPApr-19-2017 9:08 AM

The Frankenstein Quote is just IMO, a way of showing how Walter is Different from David.  And that what Dangers would be if Walter was allowed such Freedom of Knowledge that David had.

similar to what the Forbidden Fruit had done to Adam and Eve, and similar to the More Free-will that Lucifer was allowed compared to the other Angels.

so from the Weyland Perspective and GOD what we have is that Walter as well as most of the David Models  would indeed perform and be as loyal to God/Company as say the Angels were to God, with maybe David Androids falling into the category of the Fallen Angels at a latter point.

David 8 from Prometheus however, was Weylands Personal and Favored Android he was allowed more Freedom than the other Davids, much as God allowed Lucifer which ultimately lead to Lucifer's Rebellion much like we have with David.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Babylonxeno

FacehuggerMember167 XPApr-19-2017 10:51 AM

*massive spoilers be careful*

hey, anyone notice walter is hardly seen in the trailers when daniels and tenessee are hunting something? Walter has a scratch on his face too, infected, somehow?

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPApr-19-2017 10:51 AM

"If this is the case, then as far as a Story Telling/Plot Device then David giving Walter what David claims he has made as a substitute to Maintain himself with, but spiking it would make sense as far as a means to tell such a plot."

The one thing you can bet on BigDave is that David 8 will leave something out when informing someone else regarding a topic.

David 8 is a weaponized disingenuous.

BigDave

TrilobiteMember9950 XPApr-19-2017 10:56 AM

Exactly  David uses this opportunity to spike Holloways drink, and i wonder if this David and Walter shot is something similar.

@Babylonxeno

We do see what appears to be Walter on the Covenant, operating the doors to try and trap the Alien, but who knows if he is actually trying to trap Daniels and Tennessee

The Scar is interesting, it was bound to have happened on the surface but i would image a Xenomorph or Neomorph would leave a larger wound than that.

And also one of the Advancements of Walter over David is the ability to regenerate tissue...

So i would not be surprised if the Twist is that this is David pretending to be Walter.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Walter 8

OvomorphMember13 XPApr-19-2017 1:08 PM

@BigDave

lol, the waltermorph, that's funny. But who knows, there were leaks about a third type of alien being in here. I'd like not to focus on Walter being the one mutated since Elden, from the comic Prometheus Fire and Stone, was the first mutated android. Instead, I'd like to see the concept with Shaw being mutated instead

Walter

OvomorphMember85 XPApr-20-2017 12:34 PM

David can be playing "The trick William Potter is not minding that it hurts" with Walter :D

Ingeniero

PraetorianMember3381 XPMay-03-2017 8:11 PM

I do think this is Walter after his treatment from David 8 above and this is the biomechanical xenomorph Genesis moment.

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