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Please please don`t do a Promethues!

Please please don`t do a Promethues!

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djamelameziane

FacehuggerMember143 XPApr-05-2017 8:55 AM

Hello im here to make lots of friends again :P . Just want to say hello after being away for a long time and im back to grump about my favourite director and the mess that was prometheus. But lets start with the new trailer shall we :D

Now its looking pretty good but one thing that made my heart sink was that old sticking point with prometheus : Why The Frig Are They Not Wearing Helmets! And its back already in the trailer 42 seconds in!:

https://youtu.be/svnAD0TApb8?t=42s 

That is why you always wear helmets on strange planets and its kinda what happen last time. The crew are also looking a bit like meat for the grinder...no real stick out characters except possibly the main heroine as usual. I just hope they come up with a believable reason this time...

 

Anyway just throwing that out there ...need to catch up on whats been happening. Oh and yes I hope we see that demi god ridley was talking about that could spice it all up. It will be fun seeing if some of our old predictions come to fruition to...and much more.... :P

 

 

 

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

38 Responses to Please please don`t do a Promethues!

Walter

OvomorphMember85 XPApr-07-2017 5:32 AM

No helmets... so you dont want to see neomorphs.

BigDave

DeaconMember10324 XPApr-07-2017 7:06 AM

@Raido

Totally agree with everything you said, and indeed Prometheus is a movie that takes a few screenings before things make more sense.

"it's clear they're forgetting the point that helmets and suits won't protect you against amorous facehuggers and pissy hammerpedes!"

I was going to do a reply but Aorta hit the same nail on the head with "Another thing to consider about Milburn was actually voiced in Spaights' original script, that their spacesuits were essentially bulletproof"

The drafts had little things that would have made those silly scenes make more sense.  Sadly they was cut out and it left many seeing Prometheus as a bit Stupid.

I think a thing to remember is a lot of movies have to have some very bad decision making in order to move the Plot along.

No silly mistakes = Not much chance or Horror, we know when we watch so many Pop Corn Horror movies the mistakes they make and we can think... well if you dont make those mistakes you would all be alive.

This sadly has to be with most Horror Flicks, some are Clever in how they work... The Nightmare on Elm Street Especially as its not really by silly mistakes but by going to Sleep and everyone needs to Sleep Eventually.

I think i can understand how people can be upset at some stupid stuff though,  Alien dealt with it in a Masterful way..  Lambert and Ripley showed Caution, Sadly Dallas and Kane was running the Show.

when they left the ship and Ripley was in Charge, she was very much a Vickers Type Character but it was ASH who had a Agenda (Special Order 937) who let Kane back on the Ship.

If Ash was Human and was not working for no company Special Order then its likely the events of Alien as far as the Alien getting loose on the Ship would not have happened.

And thus the movie would not have worked... then i guess the Alien could have got in the ship from the outside if the Ship could still not have taken off.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Deep Space

FacehuggerMember320 XPApr-07-2017 7:42 AM

The first thing a biologist would spot if there was earth like environments is the fact the life there may be similar enough to pass on any number of fatal things. Not to mention potentially disastrous contamination from them to the environment.'

I agree but I also want to watch a film, not a colonisation do***entary ;)

I suppose it depends on how much suspension of disbelief you can allow for (for me it's OK as long as it's consistent to itself).

 As mentioned above, I'd have to assume checks re. the environment on Paradise have been done, if not shown directly. 

You should watch a film called Europa Report.  If you haven't seen it it's about an expedition to Europa.  Sticks very closely to scientific protocol and this becomes quite a big plot element.  I'd recommend it.

I want to see alien monsters doing horrible things and scaring people in an ALIEN film though, so carry on being daft I say ;) ha

djamelameziane

FacehuggerMember143 XPApr-09-2017 7:49 PM

Well I guess I just always come back to what is the best film of this type: alien. There was such a level of realism it totally sucks you in. Yes there's a few mistakes and irrational moments but it all feels in character. The big difference being a 'few' ... Prometheus just had one thing after another like some kind of haunted house in space they could of all been the classic bimbo teenagers and it would of suited them more except maybe Shaw and of course David. 

Looking at alien it shows you you don't have to have a bunch of idiots making mistake after mistake to have a horror film. In fact I reckon they could show off really amazing technology show their over confidence in it then show the black goo beating them despite thier best efforts. The goo could be unscanable for instance it could also be able to eat through their suits or they simply get attacked by a creature there is an infinite amount of ways to do it and you get a realistic film to boot. I think Holloway fell down a hole and broke his helmet as such in an early version of a script for Prometheus not an amazing idea i know but far more believable than what happened and most importantly not the cringeworthy scene we did have. Almost cannot watch that bit :( . It was like having a xeno doing a little dance in a ballerina outfit type cringe.

 

So yes of course you can have some mistakes that's real it's just the amount and if it fits the character. Unfortunately Prometheus also went further as far as the mistakes looked so odd they just felt like they were there to further the film not make a realistic situation thus creating the plot holes etc....

 

And no I'm not a xeno type fan either I can have a few bits with them in but I would rather learn about the engineers the demi God and what else there is! That part was the only thing I really loved was lindelof and Ridley flipping the 30percent engineer to 70 xeno on its head. Anyway fingers crossed!

 

Ps . Yes I once pulled a big centipedes head off as it kept coming back into were we where sleeping. I put the body in a flower pot ...The next day I went out to see it again and when I picked it up it went for me with its back end like a defensive move the ran round the pot.  so shocking! I finished it off after feeling guilty about doing that...But wtf! :O

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Blackwinter-witch

PraetorianMember2861 XPApr-09-2017 8:12 PM

" It was like having a xeno doing a little dance in a ballerina outfit type cringe."

Great, there's an image in my head that's gonna be damn near indelible. :D I agree also!!

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

Thoughts_Dreams

NeomorphMember1591 XPApr-10-2017 9:25 AM

Prometheus was a mess to a big extent even though it wasn’t a total disaster, it was alright but not more than that. I don’t know why they don’t wear helmets either but hopefully they will have a good explanation for it. My take on it is that if the movie doesn’t have many dumb parts then some of them will be forgiven by me at least. When you have a movie filled with bad characters that are doing bad mistakes because that they are obviously stupid and when the characters in general are dislikable that is when I have a problem with it but if they get the characters right (all humans have flaws) then I will be able to forgive that but it depends on the script and how they will edit the movie.

 

Maybe their technology won’t be able to detect the bad things so they get infected that way? Remember that they are colonists and not scientists so maybe that will explain some things. Hopefully they will be somewhat consistent with the story.

djamelameziane

FacehuggerMember143 XPApr-11-2017 1:58 AM

Yes exactly some mistakes equal realism mistake after mistake just roll over into some kind of weird dark laurel and hardy horror...And not real at all...Anyway there's much more to it there where massive plot holes etc. galore. If this one feels real all the way through it's half way to being a classic. 

 

I expect one of the mods etc. Will start up a predictions coming true thread / s after it's released...or now....hmmmm...I also wonder if anyone on the film making team saw any of what's on here and either sub consciously or other wise used the ideas....interesting...

 "It's almost as if they are making it up as they go along" :D

Blackwinter-witch

PraetorianMember2861 XPApr-11-2017 2:09 AM

I would NOT be surprised if FOX kept an eye and ear on this forum :)

They likely think:

1; we're all crazy

2; maybe they should hire us.

:D

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

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