Decoy Alien: Covenant screenings, false leaks

Chris

It would appear that Fox have purposely cut specific sequences for Covenant to throw us off, according to internal ramblings. Of course there is no way to substantiate this claim at this moment, but it is worth noting that too much of what we've discovered, visited with what we've been told, versus what the physical evidence provided to us supports the idea that Fox may have screened false sequences of Alien: Covenant. These of course leaked, as expected. But interestingly enough, certain "leaks" remain online while others, they have been quick to track down and keep offline. Not to mention various sources close to the project have alluded to the fact that not everything may be as it seems. 

Fox are aware of the fan base its connecting with and after Prometheus they know what we're capable of, in terms of digging, theorizing, piecing the plot together. I don't think think it's totally ridiculous to assume Fox have led us astray on purpose to preserve Alien: Covenant's most sensitive secrets. 

Reason I'm mentioning this now is because around the end of this month Fox will apparently be screening more accurate versions of Covenant to closed groups. It is following these screenings that legitimate leaks may occur and so, we will need to be aware of then.

But for the sake of conversation, do you think Fox have planted false footage within their previous Covenant screenings to keep us off their scent? Curious to see what you guys think.

Rick

I thinks it's possible.  AC is one of the Top 10 most anticipated films for 2017.  This puts it in the 3 digit millions arena.  So false information is definitely being planted by the greedy corporation to keeps the money in the bio-weapons division.  Wait that's WY not Fox.....LOL

dk

I think it could be the other way around. I am holding onto my hypothesis with no evidence  that FOX will put out something as an April Fool's Day joke.Or- FOX could put out something legit that day and have fans think it is a joke.

Facehuggers

What if Fox deliberately put misleading topics/theories on Scified just to throw us off? Oh my.

Witness the creation of paranoia

;)

ninXeno426

Lol Lady Geisha.I'll be honest,I'm extremely excited(it's my number one this year,only rivaled by Blade Runner 2049)there are some things I've seen that i hope don't make the final cut.I'd compare it to The Force Awakens,that had a purposely misleading advertising campaign so i was pleasantly surprised when some things weren't actually in the movie.With all that out of the way,I gotta say this is probably the most excited I've ever been for a movie.

S.M

I don't know if Force Awakens marketing was misleading, it just gave next to nothing away.  You could watch the trailers over and over and really not be able to tell what the plot was or how all these characters and situations related to each other.  Compare that to the first Avengers film and you knew exactly how it was going to play out based on the trailer.

IN terms of A:C screenings, it wouldn't surprise me if certain sequences were added or omitted because of the obvious risk of leaks.

Ingeniero

I believe all the false leaks are driving the theories that are different from mine (all said in Batman voice) and my ideas are nailing it. 

airshaft_surprise

Hmmmm i have been thinking the same ever since the release of trailer2 when fox has thrown a lot of money and Ridley Scotts, staff and actors hard work put in, they are not going to give out much if that includes throwing everyone a furphy to keep the bloodhounds off scent, then what we have seen trailer wise is only to keep us drooling like the xeno itself. 

dk

Maybe will get a toned down version after all called Prometheus 2: The Apology. A couple xenos and gunfire scenes and more exploring cacatacombs for ancient clues to our origins ;)

BigDave

I will give this full attention after.... but for now i put this

I am not sure about Fake Cuts,  i dont understand why they would do it.  Maybe a so called faked leak, so the ones behind the 4Chan etc work for FOX but i dont think they would screen a movie and have so much of it fake.

The movies run-time is just over 2 hours at about 122 Minutes, i cant see them screening a movie and drastically giving us scenes that wont appear.... if they want to fool us, they just have to post some faked screen reports with a bit of evidence (faked) and then have it taken down..

I cant see them also screening like a hour movie.. i would say any screenings would have to have been 90 Minutes at least, and i cant see them putting in say more than 25 minutes of footage to not be shown.

I know someone who has seen 2 movies Test Screened before, one of those was Wolverine and they said the movie they saw had a few changed scenes but nothing major it was pretty much 80-90% accurate to the full movie, they did add however some scenes the Characters had no dialog... well some did not... so this was a sign they was acting and dialog will be added after.

Also a number of scenes, was just Green Screen like the running through the Woods scene they was running against Green Screen.

I would assume any REAL Alien Covenant Screener would be the same case...

So the 4chan leaks do miss out a lot of information, its like they completely missed a good 40 minutes of the movie and they never paid attention to the rest apart from the obvious parts that we can all had made from the Trailers and Stills and especially if anyone saw the extended Press Footage etc.

So i am on the Fence with the 4Chan and other leaks, the IMDB one too they are similar but have conflicting differences that cant be about misinterpretaion by TWO different people... i also saw a 3rd report thats more detailed that still does not add up.

Then we have a older 4Chan leak again that never covered much that seems to match the latest so called leaks... these seem to hint at a Waltermorph LOL or at least David using Synthetic DNA in the Process.

I wont discus the 4Chan etc here as in case they are Legit, i think some parts could be... but basically i can make a run down of the movie based off the Trailers alone that i think would cover quite accurately 50-60% of the movie...  i can then educated guess work another 10-15% that could be quite accurate based off Set Reports too...

But then there would be about 25%-35% of the Movie i would have little clue about...... which also seems to be what the 4Chan etc leaks are missing.

I fail to see how they saw just say 60% of the final movie.

BigDave

As far as potential Screeners soon... its likely... i think they would be very close now to a Final Cut...

And its not unusual for a near finished cut to be screened few months prior to the official release.  There was a few leaks with regards to Force Awakens Screeners that happened i think like October time so 8 weeks prior to Official Release and these was dead Accurate.. i read one and well spoiled the movie.. but then i could read what it was going to be like a book anyway.

other movies i remember reading so called screeners that was 100% spot on was indeed both Cloverfield (6 weeks before official release) and 10 Cloverfield Lane (4 weeks prior) so indeed its likely that 4-8 weeks prior that a selected audience gets to see the movie before any premier.

Not in every movie case, but some..

So indeed i would not be surprised if April we start to see more so called Screener posts on the internet and we can see if they match the older 4Chan ones or differ... or for many maybe avoid.

As i think the closer we get to release the greater the potential for a REAL Screen Test Information to come out, and if this happens and if they do match the 4Chan ones, it would spoil the movie for people...   even if they dont match 4Chan then we would be left wondering... which is real or not or are they all fake.

But guys its only like 10 Weeks before we Officially know anyway.

ali81

was the full movie screened? I was under the impression they only got to see 15 mins of footage. could be wrong though

Aorta

Surprise! It's a musical.

BigDave

There was a Press Release that had 15 minutes Footage and both Trailers and a Q&A some months before December

Then the recent Press Report from the SXSW seems to be the same 15 minutes footage plus the David and Oram in Davids Workshop/Egg Room scene.

But as far as Actual Screeners... i would say yes, there most likely has been some, but the 4Chan leaks etc seemed a bit flawed to me.

Movie fan

@ BigDave

I agree with you, 4 Chan did seem a little...

...over the top, if you know what I mean ;)

Starlogger

The movie has been screened to executives, but only executives. They are not going to do a "regular audience" screening for this one, because they feel pretty certain they've got a hot product. Audience screenings are done if there are iffy situations in a movie that the producers are considering cutting, or if they aren't sure about a movie, so they can either go straight to DVD or to the (waste) can.

To NOT have screenings (full ones)---that is a very, very good thing for us Alien fans.

suwhited

@dk. yes. We think we are getting a sequel to Prometheus. In actuality FOX is setting us up for a follow-on to the smash hit, Alien Vs Predator: Requiem.

Seriously, I think that part of a producers job is (aside from producing a watchable flick..) is to generate hype for the movie. I can't see a better way to do that that releasing bits of disinformation here and there interspersed with some of the truth. 

What this does is generate discussions, bloggers posting willy-nilly, back and forth hypothesis, endless irrational and fantastical concepts, depression (when a prize theory gets shot full of holes) and the occasional aneurysm (for the guy whose mind gets blown by a leaked revelation).

Yes. The lines will be long for the movie.

Drake

Honestly I would love for you guys to be right.. but I disagree... I think the trailer is filled with real footage, lots of it, and that the screenings showed real footage. I don't think any decoy footage has been released at all. I would love to be wrong.

Neomorph

But I fear you're right Drake, I personally see no reason for them to throw us off with the risk of pissing a lot of people off with "false marketing".

However nothing is impossible and I'm not excluding the possibility, but I haven't seen any example of this before on a larger scale personally. Only a few trailer scenes that were either altered or deleted in the final film.

That being said a trailer can be cleverly cut to imply another direction then what the film itself has, like Refn's trailer for Drive that hinted at a more action packed thriller despite the film being more slow-paced with lots of drama (and a masterpiece imo) 

Drake

Very very true. I just hope there is a lot more to it than what we see in the trailer. Prometheus' trailer was phenomenal. It LOOKED massive. AC looks, in contrast, small.. again, I hope I am wrong!

BigDave

@Drake and Neomorph

Thats how i think about it... i cant see them faking stuff for a screening.. but then the so called 4Chan and IMDB screening appeared to me like they only  watched 60% of the movie and then half of that they switched off and paid no attention.

I am on the fence and think the 4Chan etc leaks are 40% tops accurate.. but then if we saw both Trailers and the extra footage on top of other official information and the Set Reports i am sure some could fabricate a equally similar so called leak

Spearfish

@Aorta - "surprise, it's a musical"

Hilarious.  This member group would lose their minds.  Picture a Xeno erupting into song and dance.  Baritone with the big mouth and soprano with the tongue/mouth.

cuponator3000

Interesting...I do think that Fox may have put some misleading information in private screenings of footage or in the trailers. Maybe. I do agree with a few others here that it seems a little bit much for Fox to have screened the whole thing or something close to it, but it being a different movie. 

So, if it is true that F

cuponator3000

Interesting...I do think that Fox may have put some misleading information in private screenings of footage or in the trailers. Maybe. I do agree with a few others here that it seems a little bit much for Fox to have screened the whole thing or something close to it, but it being a different movie. 

So, if it is true that F

cuponator3000

Interesting...I do think that Fox may have put some misleading information in private screenings of footage or in the trailers. Maybe. I do agree with a few others here that it seems a little bit much for Fox to have screened the whole thing or something close to it, but it being a different movie. 

So, if it is true that Fox has put out some false leaks, descriptions, etc., then it could be possible that is is some of the viral marketing footage? I mean, I don't know. Haha darn it this simple topic has me torn 

cuponator3000

Whoa, sorry for the friggin triple post. Hit, "reply," before I was finished, went back to finish the comment and it all just blew up. 

Haha @Aorta, "Surprise, it's a musical!" got me really good

ifox

Screen capture from leaked footage:

Cerulean Blue

I know we all remember:  '10/11/12'?

Drake

OK so now that we've all had a chance to review theories, trailers etc...  What do you guys think?  Was the 4chan leak fake?  Is the basic synopsis of what happens real?