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'We are Walter'

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Cerulean Blue

MemberFacehuggerMar-14-2017 11:01 AM

Ok, I am going to go on the record as this being extremely creepy.  What should we assume 'We are Walter' to mean, exactly?  Is 'We' all of the AI/robots who built him, or is 'We' all human beings?  'We' do know there to be some 2000 embryos on the Covenant ship.  Has Walter been bonding with these embryos, during the trip to Paradise, while the crew is in stasis?  Are 'We' the audience watching everything unfold as seen by Walter?  I am rambling on again, but await your thoughts on how 'We' can view this statement?

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Ingeniero

MemberPraetorianMar-14-2017 5:48 PM

Cerulean Blue, oh yes Walter is creepy.

"What should we assume 'We are Walter' to mean, exactly?  Is 'We' all of the AI/robots who built him, or is 'We' all human beings?"

I believe Walter knows what all other Walters are aware of as they gather knowledge at great cost to the humans.

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ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianMar-14-2017 8:57 PM

I've been wondering this myself.I keep thinking that it's a possible hive mind intelligence like the Borg collective,but that's unlikely 

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

MemberTrilobiteMar-14-2017 9:06 PM

Ingeniero and ninXeno426

I agree and would add that he could be backward compatible to link with David 8.

Ingeniero

MemberPraetorianMar-15-2017 9:04 AM

dk and ninXeno426, my thoughts exactly. A hive mind with "We" and compatible with anything that came before him.

The face that says take me home so I can ruin you (everything your species has set eyes on).

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ali81

MemberNeomorphMar-15-2017 9:07 AM

some believe, and I think its an intriguing theory, that either by the time alien or aliens comes about, the company is being run by androids. could 'we' r walter be the start?

Ingeniero

MemberPraetorianMar-15-2017 9:24 AM

ali81, a very compelling theory with "android interests" always at the top of the white board so far with what we have seen where human interests fit in with corporate plans.

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Cerulean Blue

MemberFacehuggerMar-15-2017 11:47 AM

Ali81 - I agree with your thinking Weyland-Yutani is run by androids!

dk & Ingeniero - The 'Hive' mind is also how the Alien Xenomprph thinks & communicates/interacts with one another, right?

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianMar-15-2017 2:14 PM

'We' could simply refer to a Walter-series Network. If you visit the site and look through the Walter-models features, it's evident he can link to assorted system wirelessly, akin to Bluetooth and such. NOT a hivemind, just information-sharing and such like modern tech, no more than that.

So, maybe he was just entering the Walter-network for the first time, and such was his self-introduction to the rest of the Walters.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

Ingeniero

MemberPraetorianMar-16-2017 2:53 PM

"dk & Ingeniero - The 'Hive' mind is also how the Alien Xenomprph thinks & communicates/interacts with one another, right?"

Yes, Cerulean Blue, I do believe the xenomorphs can communicate with their unique biology. They were able to in "Aliens" when the queen sent away the xenomorphs by looking at them in silence.

The xenomorphs approaching Ripley and Newt turned away in the appearance to give safe passage before Ripley caught on when the egg opened near her. Ripley then gave the xenomorph queen a run down example of all the weapons she had on her.

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Cerulean Blue

MemberFacehuggerMar-17-2017 10:29 AM

Ingeniero - Ah yes, what a great Ripley moment!!

Blackwinter-Witch - I am getting even more creeped out by the 'World of Walters'!!  Thanks & I will check out the site, again.

CarynDelacroix

MemberFacehuggerMar-17-2017 12:43 PM

I'm starting to think Walter's understanding of human emotions is even more advanced than David, giving him an ability to sympathize with the humans (much more than David can). 

The later androids can't lie to the crew(s) about their chances of survival, but the Nostromo crew did have Ash's sympathies.

Walter might be able to sort of put himself in the crew's shoes, as well as David. So, in a way, "We are Walter" could speak to the idea that he's considering everybody's interests/feelings and attempting to empathize with them.  Unlike David or Ash, Walter would would feel a true sense of guilt over harming the humans or lying to them.  He's supposed to have their backs, so he's conflicted about what the higher-ups force him to do... 

Blackwinter-witch

MemberPraetorianMar-17-2017 2:52 PM

@ Cerulean Blue: You're Welcome!

Just went back to the meetwalter site, and he has remote biofeedback transmission capacity, and something that I think (very hard to read) is Strategic Data Compression, with an icon the suggests transmission ability as well.

The Remote Biofeedback Transmission ability, well, it's a transmission channel and therefore the possibility of a Walter-Network exists, as it would be logical for all the Walters to be aware of each other's condition/status and thus if an emergency arose, they could help, which would lower insurance claims/replacement payouts and could very easily include a subchannel for a Biostatus telemetry re; any give Walter's owner/crew. It could also help Walters learn more and faster about socialization with Humans, to enhance their abilities in that regard, thus making them have more user-experience-appeal.

With the kind of advanced technology in this storyline, pretty much anything is possible.

IN SPACE THERE IS NO WARNING

 

 

 

MJD

MemberOvomorphMar-17-2017 6:33 PM

its the same with Tyrell from Blade Runner, he could of been an Android too and i do believe a company that produces AI as advanced as the ones seen in the movies will at some point overthrow you.

Even in I Robot it didn´t work to set rules to apply to if you can break them. On the other hand i do find it still confusing having the male and female aspect inside Weyland Yutani, where Peter Weyland (Male) and ......... Yutani (Female) are somewhere out there.

Would be very interesting to see where this follows on in terms of the difference in creation to David / Walter and other Androids. I cannot imagine any other way. Its always the same, in the Matrix, Terminator, you name it.

Do they have a collective mind, where all data is saved and the source or brain of the hive?

Or is every creation individual and there are only distinct connections?

I love the repeating pattern of overthrowing your masters and creators like in history and mythology

 

 

Cerulean Blue

MemberFacehuggerMar-22-2017 7:41 AM

@Blackwinter-Witch - Meetwalter.com is very interesting!

Evidently Walter can help us avoid trouble before it starts, so long as we let him:  Observe, analyze & predict.

Ok, so The Covenant Crew are to give him complete control of their situation, so he can keep them from trouble.

It seems that will not be the best choice they make in this movie!!!

I can see this directive as being a way Walter can super cede the best interest/well-being of the Covenant crew, by the mere fact he allows them to land & investigate the Paradise planet?

I guess I will have to see who really makes the call to investigate David 8's beacon, or whatever it is that gets them to land there?

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