FacehuggerMember152 XPMar-12-2017 11:42 AMIf indeed David is the creator of the eggs and xeno, I wonder how it will all tie into the derelicts egg silo in Alien with thousands off eggs? What do you guys make of this?
"Kane's son"
NeomorphMember1566 XPMar-13-2017 3:04 PM@R.Budd Dwyer, I really feel for your hopes of what may come in the upcoming sequel! I too wanted something (naively) from Prometheus and at first was confused as to the way I felt about it. Over time, I've come to realise that it's not at all in line with what I really wanted from the SJ species backstory.
These prequels are just one person's vision of the backstory. It doesn't mean it is the ACTUAL backstory! (I can sense another canon debate coming lol.)
Just because it's Ridley (an amazing filmmaker, no doubt!) that's produced it, doesn't mean you have to buy it.
It's not my intention to put you on a downer! I just don't want you to feel the way I felt after seeing Prometheus!
But, realistically, what I wanted from Prometheus was never going to happen. FOX would never fund the surreal horrors I hold in my own imagination with regards to the ALIEN backstory.
I just have to accept that.
The poster was good though!
NeomorphMember1566 XPMar-13-2017 3:38 PM@Grinning and dropping linen; Sorry to upset you with that comment but I'm just voicing my opinion.
The lack of imagination comment wasn't aimed at you or any member of this forum because I know each one of us have our concerns.
However, There are certain people that need to know what happened in the past and that's fine! But I personally can't understand it. Everybody feels the same about something that they love and if they feel that the thing they love is being treated badly then there reaction isn't going to be a positive reaction, is it? I don't like how the SJ's backstory is being treated! Therefor I react negatively to any further tamperings.
I've been a member of this site since 2012 and have always felt like this is the place to say exactly how I feel with regards to the ALIEN lour.
A lot of times I say things with the belief that people can handle it and yes, sometimes I can be a "Douchbag" That's the way i'am, take me or leave me.
The poster was good though!
FacehuggerMember245 XPMar-13-2017 3:54 PMI agree with you i feel that things left unsaid are often better in film than having it spelled out. I liked the mystery of not knowing about the how and why's of how the derelict got there or the history of the space jockey. I liked that ancient unspoken mystery that surrounded that...but it seems they will be spelling everything out, I for one, if they were gonna explore all that wish they would have went with what you mentioned in a previous comment...some ancient unimaginable horrors. I feel this would better serve the lore ......i liked a lot of elements from Prometheus but it let me down as i was hoping that movie would open up a universe of unimaginable terrors. I have a good feeling about Alien Covenant but part of me is sad that they are explaining everything, i kind of enjoyed the not knowing...it lent more to the imagination, but heres to hoping we all enjoy what is next ...kudos
FacehuggerMember245 XPMar-13-2017 4:13 PMAlso i too hate that the Space Jockey ended up being just a bigger version of human...i feel that is a huge missed opportunity
TrilobiteMember8212 XPMar-13-2017 4:16 PMI was hoping the SJ wasn't in a suit but that was actually its skeleton.
OvomorphMember39 XPMar-14-2017 7:46 PMRE: the OP's question: I hope they don't tie things down too nicely, as you have mentioned, but I suppose it could be done in a way that leaves things open. A bit of "loose canon" (and I use the word 'canon' loosely) goes a long way towards keeping future cinematic horizons open, especially if there will indeed be several more movies. Daisy-chaining is nice; meaning where loose connections are made between past and present plot points to further the story. I have always enjoyed O'Bannon's admixture of Lovecraft to his original story. As for the filmed version, I felt the abyssal mystery of the pilot (as known before somebody dubbed him "Space Jockey") should forever stay a mystery.
XenomorphMember1234 XPMar-14-2017 8:05 PMYou're off the case, FenGiddel! You're a loose canon!!
:)
OvomorphMember39 XPMar-15-2017 4:32 AMOh, well! It was fun while it lasted... :)
"You are correct. Dallas said it looked fossilised - but he just flies spaceships."
Yessir, ya gotta love Dallas: in over his head the second they saw the derelict and sinking deeper as he made poor choices that ironically, had they not been made, would have resulted in a much shorter movie.
Still, I've always wondered if his experience in 2109 with the Thedus-Archangel disaster (and subsequent UAORD DD) really messed him up.
He wasn't quite a Company man, but he apparently lost some of his fire and desire to command when it really counted.
15K deaths might do that to a man...
FacehuggerMember500 XPMar-15-2017 6:55 AMI would like to share my theory:
When the SXSW preview for covenant came out, there was a scene when Oram and David are talking and David said that he was a zoologist and that "They are waiting for their mother" this indicates that the eggs have a "mother" that layed them.
So the Chicken came first ;)
Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)
FacehuggerMember245 XPMar-15-2017 7:07 AM@Movie fan
He is implying that these eggs need a host...which in this case would be a human and this would be Oram in this case. The "mother" of his creations that they are waiting on is whichever poor soul, male or female gets facehugged by the creatures residing in these eggs, as they will become "mother" to the organism that will eventually burst forth from them...in this case there are no chickens, just eggs...Ridley will not use the Queen concept in his movies trust me
FacehuggerMember500 XPMar-15-2017 7:14 AM@ Grinning & Dropping Linen
Are you sure? I just can't shake the feeling that he means an actual "mother" I will look into it.
Obsession is a Power, not a Curse ;)
PraetorianMember3422 XPMar-15-2017 9:10 AMShasta cyclone, yes, one of the drawings on the wall of David's workshop looks like a giant seed pod (similar to Seymore from Little Shop of Horrors).
David could have used available biology, remaining plant life, and started there with his mutations.
NeomorphMember1681 XPMar-15-2017 10:04 AMPerhaps David wasn’t the first one to make the eggs? Didn’t they say that one could re-create them if they had the tools and knowledge to do so? Maybe the eggs on the space ship that the SJ flied were older than those that David created during his experiments?
Maybe the SJ’s found the eggs somewhere and took them to their planet or base to enhance them and use them as bio weapons. While on their way to earth in order to get rid of mankind something went wrong and they crash landed, he got face-hugged and sent out the signal and then died.
Hopefully we will never get the whole answer, some things should stay a mystery.
