Alien: Covenant

Black goo reaching earth

4,449 Views16 RepliesAdd A Reply

Fire_Stream21

FacehuggerMember143 XPMar-09-2017 4:15 PM

As we know from the Alien: Resurrection alternative scene, Ripley 8 and Call reach Earth and its destroyed. But I recall her mentioning a plague that could have wiped everyone out or something like that. Prometheus was probably not though of (even though the idea of pyramids was originally the plot for "Alien", the black goo was probably not thought of yet. But maybe Ridley came up with the idea to fulfill that gap hole of what happened to Earth in the Alien universe, I mean major coincidence or not??

There's a good chance that LV-223 wasn't the only testing ground with the black goo that existed... many more probably did, and an engineer could have possibly crashed a Juggernaut between Alien 3 and Alien: Resurrection potentially destroying earth.

16 Responses to Black goo reaching earth

S.M

XenomorphMember1234 XPMar-09-2017 4:23 PM

Paris is a ship graveyard.  There's no evidence the rest of world is like that.  The very fact that Call was trying to protect the Earth from the Aliens, that the USM homebase is there and it looks green and pretty normal, with weather much like we have now, would indicate lots of people still live there, and it's business as usual.

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember736 XPMar-09-2017 5:15 PM

In Prometheus, when one of the pilots mention the harsh atmosphere of LV-223 in detail, Holloway replies "just like home", this gave me an impression that Earth is basically severely polluted.

The fact that the Covenant crew needs to find another habitable planet could further establish this unless I'm missing something here. Like overpopulation (which sort of implies pollution anyway)

Taking the alternate ending of AR into consideration, I still imagine that Earth in that case is a desolate wasteland with a few survivors living in Mad Max style camps, but I never really drew any parallels to Prometheus, it was just an interesting detail worth mentioning.

With the theatrical ending in mind however, I believe that Earth is fairly "OK" sort of like you pointed out with those examples S.M.

S.M

XenomorphMember1234 XPMar-09-2017 5:31 PM

Holloway was saying "just like home" in response to Ravel's "71% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, traces of argon gas".  Earth's atmosphere is 78% nitrogen, 21% oxygen, 0.93% argon.  LV-223 had over 3% CO2 versus our 0.04%.  So it was very similar to Earth - just not similar enough.  Dumb archeologists...

Weyland ended climate change last year (!) when he invented terraforming.  And going by the Sea of Sorrows novel, Weyland Yutani orchestrated a triumphant return when the Auriga crash threatened a nuclear winter and the Company re-terraformed Earth (mind you that book said the Auriga crashed into Paris too, but there you go).

Inquisitor Fifield

FacehuggerMember249 XPMar-09-2017 5:40 PM

A:R and some comic/novel's lore is not and will not be any canon for prometheus/covenant - thank god (ridley)

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember736 XPMar-09-2017 5:53 PM

S.M oh I didn't recall the exact statistics there but despite the similarities didn't they also say in Prometheus that a couple of minutes without a mask would kill them?

Or am I either thinking about the silicon based storm that would "fry their suits in minutes" or the atmosphere on the planet in Avatar perhaps? I'm thinking loud now.

Rick

XenomorphMember1261 XPMar-09-2017 6:27 PM

S.M must be why all the french moved to Canada

S.M

XenomorphMember1234 XPMar-09-2017 6:28 PM

"S.M oh I didn't recall the exact statistics there but despite the similarities didn't they also say in Prometheus that a couple of minutes without a mask would kill them?"

You are remembering correctly.  Ford says it, then later Shaw experiences it...

"A:R and some comic/novel's lore is not and will not be any canon for prometheus/covenant - thank god (ridley)"

Why would have it anything to do with a film that took place 280 years earlier?

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMar-09-2017 7:06 PM

Holloway is responding Janek's "Whoa, now, that's weather.", not Ravel's answer.

Janek: - What is the atmosphere?

Ravel: - Atmosphere is... ...traces of argon gas.

Janek: - Whoa, now, that's weather.

Holloway: - Just like home.

Ford: - If you're breathing through an exhaust pipe. CO2 is over 3 percent. Two minutes without a suit, you're dead.

So the 'polluted Earth idea' is supported by the conversation. Holloway is not dumb in this scene.

S.M

XenomorphMember1234 XPMar-09-2017 7:14 PM

.

Ati

PraetorianMember3378 XPMar-09-2017 7:25 PM

!

Fire_Stream21

FacehuggerMember143 XPMar-12-2017 11:42 AM

?

MJD

OvomorphMember72 XPMar-14-2017 12:24 AM

Aliens- Alien Ressurection are not part of the actual canon from the Alien story to Prometheus. i doubt we will see any bigger connections except to the first movie and the last they made :-)

Grinning & Dropping Linen

FacehuggerMember245 XPMar-14-2017 6:15 AM

I agree Alien Ressurection is not part of actual canon. I personally feel it is just an awful movie, a couple decent ideas, a shoehorned way to bring Sigourney back, horrible horrible cheezy dialog and corny scenes and tone all over,....wince inducing over the top dialog between characters...i for one want to forget that movie ever happened and refuse to count anything in it as canon or an influence on these new movies that are a direct connection to Ridley's orginal Alien

Capt Torgo

FacehuggerMember176 XPMar-14-2017 7:22 AM

I wonder if Shaw makes a covenant with David to / if engineers are all jerks that he kill them all to prevent morph goo from ever getting to earth even if the company tries to either. Sacrifice herself and all engaged in space when demon goo tech is around. She called it the lucerta plague. Can not friggin wait!!!!!! 

BigDave

DeaconMember10325 XPMar-14-2017 8:21 AM

Until Ridley Scott makes a Aliens Sequel that replaces Alien 3 and Alien R then they are Canon but Canon is always a personnel choice adn those who wish to not see Alien R as Canon is perfectly fine...

I felt the movie was a bit of a Popcorn Flick that was flawed, and had some element i found very flawed (Clone a Chest Buster infected person with the Queen inside from DNA, Stupid and Impossible) i rather see one Ripley Clone Evolve into something that then they extract the DNA and split Human/Xeno DNA this way to then clone a Xeno... i feel the DNA they got from Ripley would make a Hybrid and no way a Human and Chest Buster.

As for the Scene at the End i have to fully agree with SM

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10325 XPMar-14-2017 8:25 AM

@Capt Torgo

A Covenant would certainly had to have been made, is a case of who broke the deal between Shaw and David, there is a lot of interesting ways this could be explored.

We know Shaw wants her answers, but what if they only need a few Engineers or related beings to get those answers, if Paradise has Thousands of Engineers then David too would want some answers and he would know the risk of getting what he wants would be very very unlikely if there are thousands of Engineers as he knows what ONE did to him.

Maybe he would think destruction of them all or most would be the way forwards and then by visiting the ruins he could get Shaw her answers... I however do not believe David has destroyed all the Engineers or even many.

I think this was a ancient event, but i do think some of them or related beings had survived and maybe David made a Covenant with them... which David had then broken prior to the Covenant ship arriving.

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Add A Reply
Log in to Post
Enter Your E-Mail
Enter Your Password

Stay Logged In
Alien & Predator Alien & Predator Fandom
Hot Forum Topics
New Forum Topics
Highest Forum Ranks Unlocked
Thoughts_Dreams
Thoughts_Dreams
81% To Next Rank
Neomorph
Neomorph
Neomorph
74% To Next Rank
Chestburster
Tiwaz
Tiwaz
53% To Next Rank
Chestburster
Jonesy
Jonesy
78% To Next Rank
Facehugger
burbigo3
burbigo3
18% To Next Rank
Ovomorph
Latest Alien Fandom Activity

Alien: Covenant is a sequel to 2012's Prometheus as well as a prequel to 1979's ALIEN. Alien fans looking to know more about Alien: Covenant should check back often. Alien-Covenant.com is an information resource for film enthusiasts looking to learn more about the upcoming blockbuster Alien: Covenant. Providing the latest official and accurate information on Alien: Covenant, this website contains links to every set video, viral video, commercial, trailer, poster, movie still and screenshot available. This site is an extension of the Alien & Predator Fandom on Scified - a central hub for fans of Alien and Prometheus looking to stay up-to-date on the latest news. Images used are property of their respective owners. Alien: Covenant, Prometheus and its associated names, logos and images are property of 20th Century Fox and are in no way owned by Scified and its related entities. This is a fan-created website for the purpose of informing and exciting fans for Alien: Covenant's release. If you have any questions about this site, its content or the Scified Network in general, feel free to contact Scified directly.

© 2022 Scified.com
Sign in with your E-Mail & Password


Log in to view your personalized notifications across Scified!

Alien Alien-Covenant.com
Godzilla Godzilla-Movies.com
Jurassic World JurassicWorld3.net
Aliens vs. Predator AliensVersusPredator.net
Predator Predator4-Movie.com
Latest Activity
Forums
Search Scified
Sci-Fi Movies