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ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPJan-31-2017 2:49 PM

This one is inspired by debate spawned from a separate thread of mine.In there was a debate regarding the scare factor of the newborn alien or lack thereof.So I've created this so we can discuss the ups and downs of the newborn.What you like about it,what you hate about it,what you'd change about it.Have at it guys.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

37 Responses to The NewBorn Alien

S.M

XenomorphMember1234 XPJan-31-2017 2:57 PM

I think it was under utilised.  It came too far out of left field too late in the film.  It should've been flagged a bit earlier, to create some tension and expectation.

That said I think the design works in regard to that stage of development - chestbursters are off-white and fleshy too.  Would've been great to see it as an adult.

And in technical terms it's one of the greatest animatronics ever built.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPJan-31-2017 3:00 PM

That's great.It could have used better,but thanks to the films short length,it does have unfortunately small screen time.The one thing i'd change is it's nose.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

S.M

XenomorphMember1234 XPJan-31-2017 3:15 PM

It's not the films length so much, as placement.  In Aliens they have a discussion about where the eggs were coming from and Bishop suggests a Queen is laying them.  When Ripley meets the Queen it's a call back that the audience had likely forgotten about - right up to the point they see her.

A better idea for Resurrection would be for them to find the Queen dead and have the audience wondering what killed it.  So the seed is planted and it's not such a "What the hell is that?" moment when we have the reveal.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPJan-31-2017 3:46 PM

That's a fair assessment.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

BigDave

DeaconMember10237 XPFeb-01-2017 6:20 AM

4th attempt to reply...

Indeed SM i think that would be better, i was disapointed with the look but mainly the behavoour of the New Born... it was a bit cheesy and reminded me how you would expect the halfway point between a Mogwai and Gremlin to look at act...

 

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

BigDave

DeaconMember10237 XPFeb-01-2017 6:25 AM

The other concept ideas were better IMO

Cant upload maybe due to server load... so here is a link

Video here

One i like best Here

R.I.P Sox  01/01/2006 - 11/10/2017

Starlogger

ChestbursterMember907 XPFeb-01-2017 7:20 AM

Horrible design, horrible role. Absoutely cheesy implementation. Turned Alien:Rez into a comedy that I cannot watch. The thing sniffs like a dog, and moves like Jabba the Hut. In fact, it almost looked like Jabba the Hut's bastard child, and NOTHING like any traditional "Alien" DNA was even involved.

chli

ChestbursterMember935 XPFeb-01-2017 7:25 AM

Well, most people found it horrifying when they saw it in Alien when it was a new concept. Today we might need neomorphs?

chli

ChestbursterMember935 XPFeb-01-2017 7:26 AM

Well, most people found it horrifying when they saw it in Alien when it was a new concept. Today we might need neomorphs?

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPFeb-01-2017 8:27 AM

A better idea for Resurrection would be for them to find the Queen dead and have the audience wondering what killed it.  So the seed is planted and it's not such a "What the hell is that?" moment when we have the reveal.

That's a fantastic idea, even better then Whedon's, that would also tie in nicely to the current final act where the Newborn manages to get on board The Betty.

 

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPFeb-01-2017 8:55 AM

I like the Newborn *evades a shoe* 

I think it looks terrifying with its stretched limbs and doll-li*dodges a chair* ke eyes.

Its groans are bone chilling, and the animatronics *ducks a piano* are amazing! 

It also killed the Queen! *gets chased by a combine harvester and an army of furious Aliens fans*

Myrddin365

FacehuggerMember425 XPFeb-01-2017 12:47 PM

I don't think the newborn was BAD, it just didn't belong in an Alien movie. The Xenos have a sleek beauty to their menace that was COMPLETELY absent from the newborn design.

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPFeb-01-2017 12:54 PM

"The halfway point between a mogwai and a gremlin"  LOL BigDave.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

S.M

XenomorphMember1234 XPFeb-01-2017 1:08 PM

"I don't think the newborn was BAD, it just didn't belong in an Alien movie. The Xenos have a sleek beauty to their menace that was COMPLETELY absent from the newborn design."

It belonged in that particular Alien movie. It was effectively the anti-Ripley.  Mostly Alien DNA with some human.  I would've liked for them to take it further and have it try to mate with Ripley as per the script, but ultimately it was an abomination and died like one 10 minutes later.  Which was part of the problem.

Tiago_miami_la

FacehuggerMember236 XPFeb-01-2017 1:11 PM

To me its still frightening.the only frightening alien to me to date,

So weird like a abomination

Neomorph

ChestbursterMember731 XPFeb-01-2017 1:32 PM

@Tiago_miami_la

Exactly, look at that; a real abomination and scary as f*** 

Compared to the Engineers, Zombie Fifield and the adorable Deacon, it's a masterpiece imo.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPFeb-01-2017 1:40 PM

It is certainly frightening,but not as frightening as the xenomorph.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Myrddin365

FacehuggerMember425 XPFeb-01-2017 1:47 PM

@S.M. basically all of Alien Resurrection didn't belong in an Alien film IMO, so I have to agree with you.

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

Lone

PraetorianMember2674 XPFeb-01-2017 2:07 PM

*reads replies with great interest...then retrieves shoe* ;)

THE LONE GUNWOMAN

"Let The Cosmic Incubation Begin" ~ H.R. Giger

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPFeb-01-2017 2:22 PM

LOL Lone.That why i started this thread.Have fun.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

dk

TrilobiteMember8212 XPFeb-01-2017 7:04 PM

I was ok with the Newborn. The expressive eyes really set it apart from the Xeno. It almost seemed like it was trying to talk as it died. The only thing I didn't like was its over all posture and it seemed to lumber around rather slowly.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPFeb-01-2017 7:07 PM

I would have liked to see it running.It made quite the leap to reach the Betty.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

S.M

XenomorphMember1234 XPFeb-01-2017 7:16 PM

Indeed.  It was very quick and strong, but mostly off screen.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPFeb-01-2017 7:17 PM

It runs around in the video game but that's not the same.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Tiago_miami_la

FacehuggerMember236 XPFeb-01-2017 7:22 PM

This little fellas more scary then the newborn? Come onn

Only the neomorph will surpass it.

We saw too many times xenos getting killed..it makes the fear sleep.

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPFeb-01-2017 7:30 PM

The xenomorph is a lot quieter ther for more deadly.Plus they have a much higher body count.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPFeb-01-2017 7:34 PM

You are right though about the amount of xenomorph killed.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Tiago_miami_la

FacehuggerMember236 XPFeb-01-2017 7:35 PM

Ninxeno... ^^ xD

ninXeno426

PraetorianMember3048 XPFeb-01-2017 7:41 PM

I see.The NewBorn had a very short life span.Had it lived longer,it would have extremely deadly.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Thoughts_Dreams

NeomorphMember1546 XPFeb-05-2017 2:20 AM

The newborn is probably as close to a ghost that you will come in the Alien franchise as far as the color goes, it was just too far away from how they looked before. AR got the Xenos wrong because they looked like someone had used plastic bags to make as their skin just look when they are in the room and the scientist is pushing that freeze button.

 

The look of the Newborn wasn’t the worst thing, it was how it behaved. It was almost that they made it cute on purpose. Having new monsters isn’t bad per se but this one didn’t work. For example, the alternate Fifield monster that wasn’t used looked good in its design and it was sort of new. Xenos are supposed to be scary, not cute.

 

“The thing sniffs like a dog, and moves like Jabba the Hut.“

 

Ha ha ha! :D Thanks Starlogger, that was fun as hell. How would a mix of Jabba the Hutt and a Xeno look? 

 

Big Dave: Thanks for posting the link to the on Youtube. Either the monster at 0:20 or the one at 0:46 (minus the hair) is my favorite (I cannot decide really). Giving it hair is a bad move since it makes it look too much like a fly. You can see that flies have hair if you take a picture of it and zoom it in a lot. Obviously I don’t know if that was intentional or not but it is an interesting thing to notice nevertheless.

 

Tiago_miami_la: I wonder how the new-born picks its nose? I can’t really see any well defined nostril on it. ;)

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