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David Fincher doing another Alien movie

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QueenElizabethShaw

MemberChestbursterJan-29-2017 8:10 AM

It seems interesting to consider the final product of another Fincher movie (except one where he is present from start to finish.) He is much more experienced now than he was when he did Alien 3 and has no doubt given a lot of thought to what went wrong with it.

Would another Fincher film be a mistake?

If he did another film should he work with Cameron?

Taking it a step further, if Ridley were to pass on before he could complete the Prometheus quadrilogy, would it be out of the question to have Cameron and Fincher finish it together?

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Myrddin365

MemberFacehuggerJan-29-2017 4:29 PM

@Ninxeno No offense taken! I'm just realistic with myself. I really have no strong factual basis for my opinion on the film, just a visceral response. Those are actually the hardest to overcome, at least for me.

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianJan-29-2017 5:17 PM

Alright glad to clear that up.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Tiago_miami_la

MemberFacehuggerJan-29-2017 6:29 PM

damm bois you sure know how to derail a thread lololol

='D

Tiago_miami_la

MemberFacehuggerJan-29-2017 6:29 PM

did you really enjoy the plot and how the xeno comes to be?

the directors cut was dreadfulllll...seriously for me i can t like it one bit.

theatrical not so bad but still....after aliens getting that is really dreadful...i was expecting at the time getting newt hicks and ripley again basicly what blomkamp is amazingly to me presenting in the concepts...

í mean i enjoyed...this scene was magnificent

but other then some good scenes.....meh

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianJan-29-2017 6:36 PM

What do you mean?

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianJan-29-2017 6:47 PM

Things did get off topic if that's what you mean.It happens

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

Tiago_miami_la

MemberFacehuggerJan-29-2017 7:40 PM

this still makes me laugh tho

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianJan-29-2017 9:55 PM

To be honest yes i prefer the dog birth,but this makes more sense.The Alien was simply to large to have been born from the dog.If you're asking if i did like Alien 3's plot then the answer would be yes.

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Intheyear2525

MemberOvomorphJan-29-2017 10:27 PM

A3 was terrific but just suffered a shitty ending with the plan being to dump hot lead on it and then Ripley leaping to her martyrdom. It's pace, tension, imminent threat was great. The euology and chestburster scene is a film horror classic sequence. It could have ended better without the trite shot of her death. It was a forced sentimentality that did not match. I wonder what Fincher would have done differently had he had his way.

dk

MemberTrilobiteJan-29-2017 10:32 PM

It is interesting that the cow was dead and hanging prior to being chest bursted. At that time it was a first- all other victims were alive and had to suffer through it.

Back to the OP- I think Fincher could do a good job but I know he was pretty p^ssed and wanted nothing to do with the movie anymore. If he was approached, I wouldn't blame him for passing up an offer.

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianJan-29-2017 10:33 PM

I love that scene as well.Not only is the eulogy the best scene in the film,it's one of the best scenes in the franchise period.As for it's ending,the blame belongs to Vincent Ward.

Nothing the God of biomechanics wouldn't let you in heaven for 

ninXeno426

MemberPraetorianJan-29-2017 10:36 PM

The dead cow is a curiosity of mine.I think I'll research it a bit.

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Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphJan-30-2017 7:46 AM

I wouldn’t mind that, it would be interesting. Maybe if the studio would not interfere it would be better. Working with Cameron is something that I am not sure if he needs to do being that there are other Alien connected movies that I prefer compared to Aliens. Alien to me has got more to do with suspense (the feeling that you get when you know that something bad is about to happen) rather than some pure shoot-them-up kind of movie.

 

What Neomorph calls sad moments are moments that I think really adds to the movie and makes it better. Alien has never been about having a nice family feeling (Aliens) or being about comedy (AR) or some religion shit (P). In case someone is wondering my favorite is Alien 3 followed by Alien. Yes there is some religion thrown into A3 but that is not to say that the main theme there is religion (it is rather a by-product of being on your own and trying to have some hope in another life as a result of that if we are going by what A3 is trying to tell us). The movie also supports my idea that religion is one thing (organized beliefs) versus spirituality which is a personal belief. Look at what Clemens says about that they found some religion in space.

 

Anyways I like the tone of the movie and that I wasn’t as dark in color compared to Alien and Aliens which made it sort of new. Dark environments are fine but you don’t need to put it into every movie. To me Alien 3 feels different compared to Alien and Aliens maybe that is why it is my favorite in the franchise.

 

Someone mentioned the chest buster in the end of the movie. I preferred when they kept the chest burster but that is just me. The alternative version of Alien 3 is better than the theatrical cut IMO because the characters are done better.

 

I don’t have any problem what so ever that they killed off Newt and Hicks since the Alien movies to me have never been about a happy family feeling at all. They did the right choice IMO when they did that. Clemens (the doctor) and Ripley had a chemistry between them that worked.

 

This is all that I have to say about this, thanks QueenElisabethShaw for the post.

Id

MemberOvomorphJan-30-2017 8:02 AM

another from fincher!? ..........first rule about Alien 3......you do not talk about Alien 3....

Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphJan-30-2017 8:57 AM

Id: I talk about Alien 3 if I want to, thank you very much. Just because you say that I can't doesn't mean that it is objectively true.

Myrddin365

MemberFacehuggerJan-30-2017 9:07 AM

@thoughts and dreams. Haven't you seen fight club?

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphJan-30-2017 12:47 PM

Myriddin365: I haven't seen that for many years.

Id

MemberOvomorphJan-30-2017 5:57 PM

OHOHOHOHOHO!!!!!!! come now thoughts!! i count none amongst us who delight in naughty little fibbers! surely if you ever saw fight club you'd recall the line that became as oft quoted as "WHATS IN THE FUCKING BOX!?"

....thats a hint! ......think Thoughts........think...

Myrddin365

MemberFacehuggerJan-31-2017 4:04 AM

@Thoughts... Id was making a tongue in cheek Fight Club joke about Alien 3 (The first rule of fight club is you never talk about fight club) because Fincher directed both. He's trying to pull a fast one with Se7en now.

Safe? Of course he isn't safe, but he's good!

Intheyear2525

MemberOvomorphFeb-11-2017 8:48 PM

Alien 3 has the best performances and dialogue of the whole lot. Alien is the greatest film undoubtedly however it was very straight forward. Alien 3 has such an ensemble performance and was often poetic. It's a real shame how the story was too obtuse prior to filming. Namely the alien action storyline was too limited. The plot itself hampered had both hands tied behind its back with unarmed people wandering the halls And contrive against the alien. There needed to be a different dynamic involved. Say the evac team arriving earlier and getting involved. A lot of the prisoner bickering was too monotone and repetitive in places.

Dr. Curt Connors

MemberChestbursterFeb-12-2017 7:26 AM

I love Alien 3 and I prefer the theatrical version over the Assembly cut! It is by far the best acting by Sigourney Weaver and somehow she got nominated for an Academy Award for her performance in Aliens, great movie would never take anything away from Aliens, but her performance in Alien 3 blows that away. And this goes way back to the talk of the Dead Space games in the comments, by the time I got to the end of the third game I just wanted it to be over so fast it just went way too out of control. The third game was setting up to be so good and then it just went off the rails bad in my opinion, I hope one day they make the first game into a movie. The first game was so good.

Kane's new face

MemberOvomorphFeb-12-2017 1:37 PM

I'm guessing unless Fox pitched him a fantastic script he'd probably say no. If he did get a good script and agreed to do it, I think he'd need to bring in the kind of disturbed and dreary atmosphere we saw in Se7en coupled with the carefully designed character exchanges we saw in Social Network. Even then, it's hard to say how his final product would land. I'm sure some of his decisions would be nothing more than rebellion against things he hated about Alien 3. He could end up overcompensating and swing too far in the opposite direction. Just the negative feelings he has for Alien 3 makes him a hazard to a new movie. Strong emotions can cloud creative judgement. Bringing him in for another go is probably a bad move.

Starlogger

MemberChestbursterFeb-12-2017 1:40 PM

No James Cameron. No way, no how, no more.

BULL ALIEN

MemberOvomorphFeb-12-2017 5:37 PM

I loved the dialogue in Alien3 so much. More to the point when Dillon makes the speech and the end were they all have to fight and everyone will die but it comes down to how you will die "Do you want it in your feet or in your knees begging? ain't nobody give me nothen so I say F*** this thing lets fight it!" I lived by the speech growing up. Still gives me Goosebumps. I love it!

Thoughts_Dreams

MemberNeomorphFeb-15-2017 8:44 AM

Bull Alien: I agree about the dialogue, the speech that Dillon made was good.

 

They got it right with the Dillon character and I also think that they had developed the character of Clemens in a good way. Clemens died but that is alright because well people died in Alien movies. One thing that I don’t understand is why they sent him to a prison planet for accidently killing some patients. I understand if they would have sent him there for something very nasty but I am not sure why they did that in his case but I guess that it was good for them to get a doctor. Ripley’s and the doctor’s relationship worked.

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